anyone heard of tradition of starting voyages on new moon
 

i ask because you can do this in that case:

nomad started voyage exactly on new moon when the angle between sun and moon is zero degrees

along the voyage they would count sunsets and exactly on the 28th sunset they would measure the angle between sun and moon

if the angle was 10º it meant they have travelled 5º of longitude

so anyone heard of songs or folklore sying on starting a voyage on new moon?

Google shows plenty of superstition on the bold part of your quote :)

well the reason is simple see my 1st post

in an east travel around the world sun advnaces one revolution and moon delays one revolution more from as it would from greenwhich,(willy fog)

the rest is easy

the thing its in cartoons but supresed from history

edit:

im kind of seeing why it got supressed:

are you sure we have been told the truth about TIME?

i go east for 28 days you remain at greenwhich

i know ive travelled 90º during those 28 days

you dont move during 28 days

after each counting to 28 sunsets we look at the sun and the moon

you see new moon i see full moon

time relativity anyone?

"you see new moon i see full moon"

No, that's incorrect.

You post interesting stuff :)

But wouldn't we have all this type of navigation worked out by now?

I know we have flown highly accurate atomic clocks on opposite routes around the globe and measured the difference, we've had Astronauts speak to us from the Moon and the ISS and can measure the difference and thus eventually be able to calibrate such every day devices as car sat nav that is as near as accurate as we'll need.

As for relativity, the answer is, its only relative to the perceiver ... that's what it means ... I think :)

I'm not sure what your point is here to be honest?

The above could be used in pretty much every single one of raaids threads, devoid of basic logic....

Another xxxxxxxx topic. Any chance of re-running the poll to see who wants Raaaid to continue spouting his inane drivel?

so what is time?

traditionally the delay between two noons is taken as refernce of time

but some cultures take sun noon and other moon noon

and others BOTH

if you go east slowly sun time will acelerate since yourfollowing sunset but moon time will slowly delay since your following its orbit

so answer me this bs question to prove its bs , if you do right ill make another poll

how can time simultaneous acelerate and declerate

i have no clue thats why i ask, do you see anything wrong in asking?

edit:

whats moon time and sun time?

difference between different noons of each

what happens if a go east following moon orbit and sunrise

sun noon happens faster moon noon happens slower

if time is either sun or moons noon difference how can one time go by faster and other slower?

"Time is not a reality, but a concept or a measure." Antiphon

The passing of "time" does not accelerate or decelerate regardless of how it is measured.

Poll please.

no you havent touched my point

if you pls i admitt im too stupid to hold the sun moon model in my mind

but having been all my life stupid i learnt to simplify

so heres a simplified model of sun earth moon=

earth is the center of the universe

sun and moon rotate oposite to each other both every 24 hour

so its acepted i can take an arbitrary time either sun time or moon time both are identical

but god i travel west and reality gets insane

sun time and moon time are not syncd anymore

sun times accelerates and moon time decelrates or the opposite i dont mind im dixlexic

is time then justy a moldable illusion?

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