Copyright issue
 

At Combatace, my regular forum, there was a statement from a user about the Lockheed issue with the F-104 in the Game Strike Fighters.

We have here the NG problem in this series, and the hint was this:

The US courts ruled against those companies a few years ago. Because the products were paid for by the US Gov, they cannot charge royalties on toys, games, etc...

So would be interesting to know the current status. When we have facts so we can build up the pacific scenario.

Irrelevant. The fact stands that Ubi recognized NG's claim by signing a contract. That cannot be debated away or twisted around. Not by MG, 1C, Ubi or TD.

Doesn`t know there was a contract between them, if you like you can delete this topic.

Law is always above a contract but in this case, there is nobody who would like beat a dead horse.

No. If my union negotiated employment contract stipulated no lunch period during the eight hours worked each day I wouldn't be able to sue under state law (that requires it) to get it back. Criminal law doesn't work that way but business law does in most instances. (There are several minor differences between state law and my employment contract, that's how I know - by the way, I do get lunch)

who cares what the law says...if they are trying to dictate something that is unjust or wrong then resist or dont follow that law...if they try denying you lunch, do you just go along with it...go along to get along....or do you do what you know to be right...also you are trying to justify the convoluted use of the law to justify what is wrong...if i recall this is what Hitler did (and every other dictator and tyrant). i know you are just using this as an example, but the example is flawed...this whole concept is flawed...in a free society, only criminal actions are actions that directly infringe on the rights of others...

seriously these are planes made 60+ years ago...as an american citizen my grand parents and their parents PAID for (and built and died in) this crap...it is all of ours...and i say that yes game companies can use their likeness in game...i find it hard that in a civilized world that such things are preventing people from doing what they wish...the whole thing is crazy and ludicrous...companies worrying about profits from 60+ year old weapons of war my god....they lied to us about the foreknowledge of the pearl harbor attacks the least they can do is put ww2 stuff in the public domain where it belongs...after all it wasnt the companies or govt who fought and died in these wars...it was us the common people...but its funny they start and finish the wars and we just die in them...break your chains people, stop being slaves....

seriously? some american contract is stopping some russian company from making ART, and doing what it wants, when what it wants does not infringe on the rights of others....seriously??? why dont you be men and do what you know to be in the right (or at least in this case its certainly not wrong) i mean seriously what is like Lockheed or something going to come to russia and sue you...are they going to compel you somehow to come to them so thy can sue you...

dont get my wrong im a criminal justice major, but some laws have no place in this world...but in this world i guess protecting the corporations at the expense of the people is the standard...


also the game aces high as the b26 and other planes that other companies cant seem to make...why can aces high model these planes but others can not


final point...come on guys we are all adults, with free will...we know what is right and what is wrong...stop going along to get along...stop following laws you know to be unjust...do what you know to be right..dont allow progress to be stifled because of the whims of some military industrial corporation...

I spent some time flogging this particular dead horse a few months ago. The upshot was that TD have agreed with 1C not to model any objects formerly produced by Northrop Grumman (NG) or its predecessor companies. This includes both aircraft and warships. Whether or not NG has any right in law to claim royalties on such things as models of USS Enterprise is now irrelevant to the TD/1C agreement.

There are payware A/C for FSX that are Lockheed designs: P-38 Lightning, Constellation, etc. FS9 has the Vega. What's the big deal?

They could have been threatened with legal action but apparently cannot threaten any more. But those are separate from what Ubisoft agreed to with N-G. That can't be broken without more legal action.

Fortunately other aircraft and companies are open.

each time they make a movie about Genghis Khan everyone in Mongolia should get 5 bucks (or more depending on imdb rating)...

well that is the legal precedent that this kind of stuff is setting...this is the direction we are headed..get ready to be slaves...we can pay for build and die in some of these machines but we cant play them in video games...