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Phantom77 06-22-2011 01:37 AM

Joystick and hotas suggestions
 
Hi Everyone ! I looking to replace my Saitek X-52 POS that died a couple of hours ago. Just getting tired of having to redo the solders on the boards, repairing wires who breaks or get cut by the metal tube etc.. Right now I'm looking for the Logitech G940 who looks great and not too costly here in Canada ( 379 $ Can ). I Already own 2 saitek throttle quadrant who works great , and saitek rudder predals no problems yet. Any suggestion are welcome but The Warthog and the x65 cos the price is too much for my taste.

Phantom AKA SYN_HArfang

robtek 06-22-2011 06:50 AM

I, for my part, can tell you: take the g940.
It works great for me.
There is just one little flaw: i have now my fourth g940, because of a faulty connection (broken cable) in throttle unit logitech had to replace the first three.
Now the warranty has ended but the fourth is still working.
Btw, the second one i didn't had to return, i repaired it myself and it is sitting as a spare in the attic. :-D
Cheers

Timberwolf 06-22-2011 07:04 AM

Hey there I been playing sims for 6 - 7 years now i owned a few joysticks .. Last one was a Logitech 3D pro It lasted 2 years before the connectors wore out and buttons failed for around $50 new i bought the Hotas x Thrustmaster with throttle 12 buttons + hat The base can be taken apart to have one side stick one side throttle or screwed back together Even comes with the allen key that snaps back in the base afterwards And yes theres twist rudder control and joystick resistance + - At the base of the stick underside

Have no problems with windows 7 / cliffs of dover using it and the great thing is you can get them in canada online

pupo162 06-22-2011 07:18 AM

well... i have to tell you 6940 is nto much of a deal.

Never used the rudder. Too small and too unprecise.

The throlte works great the first 2 months.... then it starts to malfunction preatty rapid. im on my second throtle now, ands this one is starting ti get spikes on axes again.

The stick is good i think. good features, and the FFB works nicely. the only problem is, i havnet tried a single game who was an interesting, well implemented FFB, so i mostly use vibration only.

My sugestion is, if you are looking for stick only, go for a CH stick. the g940 stick is good, but not worth 379 dolars.

Phantom77 06-22-2011 11:41 AM

Well ! I'll surely get myself a KG13 from Tarmac and modify the X-52 joystick base to mount it. The basic engineering of the base is good but the overall quality of the assembly is poor. The gauge of the wires is too small and the spring is too weak. The other option is to build a new base while still using some of the joystick components while using a stainless steel bearing mounted assembly.

speculum jockey 06-23-2011 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Phantom77 (Post 300387)
Any suggestion are welcome but The Warthog and the x65 cos the price is too much for my taste. Phantom AKA SYN_HArfang

Ok, you don't want to spend too much, but you also said. . .

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phantom77 (Post 300542)
Well ! I'll surely get myself a KG13 from Tarmac and modify the X-52 joystick base to mount it.

So you're going to spend $400 Canadian on a KG13 to mount it on a joystick base you describe as, "The basic engineering of the base is good but the overall quality of the assembly is poor. The gauge of the wires is too small and the spring is too weak.".

Spend the extra $80-100 and get a Warthog which is super precise, comes with a sweet throttle, and more buttons than you will know what to do with.

http://www.shopbot.ca/pp-thrustmaste...ce-286554.html

Phantom77 06-23-2011 06:15 AM

Yeah ! The KG13 from tarmac ,the price in canadian dollars is around 300 $. Well They open the overtime at my job and since I get the double rate around ( 60 $ an hour ) for 12 hours shifts the money has become suddenly available. I'm schedule to have 4 shifts at overtime so do the math. The price that I have seen for the warthog was around 600 to 700 $ The x-52 base well I can upgrade it with better components or keep the hall sensors and magnet and do myself a new base. I have some machining skills since I work as a millwright and do some machining myself. I like the idea of making some of my hardware.

senseispcc 06-23-2011 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by robtek (Post 300442)
I, for my part, can tell you: take the g940.
It works great for me.
There is just one little flaw: i have now my fourth g940, because of a faulty connection (broken cable) in throttle unit logitech had to replace the first three.
Now the warranty has ended but the fourth is still working.
Btw, the second one i didn't had to return, i repaired it myself and it is sitting as a spare in the attic. :-D
Cheers

I am of the same opinion! I have it since a month and only positive about it. The Logitech G940 is easy to use and to set up.

FS~Phat 06-23-2011 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phantom77 (Post 300387)
Hi Everyone ! I looking to replace my Saitek X-52 POS that died a couple of hours ago. Just getting tired of having to redo the solders on the boards, repairing wires who breaks or get cut by the metal tube etc.. Right now I'm looking for the Logitech G940 who looks great and not too costly here in Canada ( 379 $ Can ). I Already own 2 saitek throttle quadrant who works great , and saitek rudder predals no problems yet. Any suggestion are welcome but The Warthog and the x65 cos the price is too much for my taste.

Phantom AKA SYN_HArfang

Thats a bummer!
I have an X52 pro too and have had it since they came out 5 years ago with no wire problem you mention, and ive logged 1000's of hours on it too.
With the magnet mod i did a couple years ago I find it really accurate. It maybe worth fixing again as I tried an X65 and Warthog and didnt like the feel of either of them!

Are the wires too tight or something, it sounds really strange to have that problem? I'll take a pic of mine so you can see the wire path in case its something to do with how your assembling it.

https://blufiles.storage.live.com/y1...g/IMG_2157.JPG

And heres the hall sensor magnet mod. Removed the magnet carrier and put them both together on a piece of stiff wire and then used a gasket silicon to hold them in place while i calibrated for centres.
The silicon is now firm and wont let them move but I can still adjust centering by moving the stiff wire gently left or right. This mod makes the joystick able to do smooth concentric circles instead of elipses so its more accurate and also seems more responsive.

https://blufiles.storage.live.com/y1...w/IMG_2160.JPG

Skoshi Tiger 06-23-2011 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phantom77 (Post 300387)
The Warthog and the x65 cos the price is too much for my taste.

Phantom AKA SYN_HArfang

I love my warthog but for IL2/COD I'm only using the Joystick, My Saitek pro throttle quadrant seams more natual for a WW2 sim!


Cheers!


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