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edward allen 02-05-2015 12:58 AM

irss server
 
This is probably a double post but i really would know how these people
at irss post such ridiculously high scores when aiming is so diffficult

IceFire 02-05-2015 03:36 AM

Haven't been in there for many years but a couple of things spring to mind.

Flying and aiming is challenging but if you've been practicing it for years or even a decade or more on the same simulator you get pretty good at it. Not a surprise that some players can aim with precision and skill and drop an enemy aircraft very quickly.

Also the points you gather are a total of everything that you're doing. If you shoot down one four engined bomber and land back at base. That's 400 points. If you do that twice in a round you already have 800 and it wouldn't take that long. If there are ground targets and you take out a couple of truck convoys then the numbers really do add up. Ultimately you really need to land at the home base to get your full points (otherwise its 10% of the total for your score). If you crash or get shot down then you only get a few. I try not to make it about points but about a fun experience.

All I can say is practice, make sure you're very comfortable with flying your aircraft(s) of choice, and work your way up from there. Supposedly impossible shots aren't that impossible with practice. Some days will be better than others too so sometimes you just have to put the game down and try again another day.

edward allen 02-05-2015 12:39 PM

Is it possible that some of them are using aiming aids(cheat codes) because im talking
points in the thousands. I dont care how much practice you have or how long youve been
flying extremely high scores are totally ridiculous.

KG26_Alpha 02-05-2015 02:25 PM

1 engine is worth 100 points

I can down a flight of 8 B17's in one flight worth 3200 points with a Bf110 or Fw190

So it wouldn't take that long to accumulate a 1000+ points score in a DF server killing 100 point aircraft............
if your any good at it

:)

majorfailure 02-05-2015 06:06 PM

vs. AI it is possible to exceed 1000points/mission even in a plane handicapped by limited ammo supply. And with the planes out there that carry an nearly endless ammo supply, e. g. Fw190, F4U-1C and others it is rather easy given enough targets of opportunity are present.

For most planes though you need training to become good in, and you need to know where to shoot - most planes have a few extremly weak spots where even a few well placed bullets can do havoc - for most that is at least the pilot. Most inline engines/oil coolers also do not fare well when hit by a few rifle caliber bullets, and worse vs. 20mm and up, fuel tanks are also vulnerable. Wing roots under stress, e. g. vs. a maneuvering enemy and control surfaces are other targets that can get decisive results with a few hits.

I've once done in 20+ AI enemies in a Fw190, and I'm not even a good shot, I'd bet there are guys out there that can do way way more, and that even against human enemies.

IceFire 02-06-2015 12:26 AM

We had a challenge over at Battlefield UK where basically one plane would spawn at a time with Rookie AI and the goal was to, flying a Yak-9T, shoot down as many as you could before the ammo runs out. Aircraft would show up roughly one at a time (you'd get about 2 minutes with each). One or two guys could shoot down I think 25-30 aircraft . One shot kills with the 37mm.

It's not combat realistic but put solid aiming in there and these guys can down several rookie human pilots in a row with no problem.

Of the cheats out there we've seen one guy who he managed to explode aircraft by shooting nearby but that was pretty obvious. If it happens on occasion that's lag. If it happens every time over the course of 20-30 kills then we suspect cheating.

Most cheats we've spotted are unlimited ammo and reducing the weight of their aircraft so they can do otherwise impossible zoom climbs.

Honestly... as a rookie pilot you think aiming and flying is hard. As a veteran pilot of the IL-2 Forgotten Battles series ...flying, even when your rusty, is like a second nature. I don't even think about it anymore. I don't even recall buttons pressed or operations I'm doing unless I actually stop and think about it. It's all automatic. My aim is kind of the same at this point. It takes a bit when you jump into a plane you haven't flown for a while but once I get it in my head again... I can shoot very precisely even against manoeuvring targets. Shots that appear impossible are not. Even at 90 degrees against an aircraft in evasive... with the right technique and deflection shot you can make it a kill. That's what a few thousand hours of practice can do.

You also have those days where you can't hit the broad side of a barn door :)

edward allen 02-06-2015 02:48 AM

ive seen scores of 3000 or more against human pilots. It seems a small group of pilots
from a squad dominate with these high scores. I'll post a screenshot sometime fri or sat.

IceFire 02-06-2015 03:48 AM

When I used to frequent this type of dogfight server ... if I spent an hour or more there on a good day, I'd have 2-3000 points too. It's not too surprising.

wWwebBrowser 02-06-2015 05:46 AM

"I don't even recall buttons pressed or operations I'm doing unless I actually stop and think about it." Ice Fire

Which is the first thing you notice when you, (I), try and stream line your set up, dropping gear at 400+km/h, forgetting where the wep 4 button is, ect.

The IRSS server is a blood bath. rarely do you have time on someone's 6 before someone is on yours.

You are aware that they have the no pit view there right?

Like was said above, play for fun, not for points, and remember that some have been flying online for a decade, twice as long as the actual war, and have "logged" more flight time than any WW2 pilot, and maybe all combined. And a few have been flying in teams for just as long.

As far as cheating, their loss, and most are not. So you can get kills, and have decent fights.

Pick a plane, and stick with it, and make sure your chute is packed right, you will probably need it, unless you just get "blowed up".

Never dispare, A.I. life is cheap, the planes are free!

~S~

edward allen 02-06-2015 04:26 PM

I'm well aware of the "no pit" but its just as difficult to aim as in cockpit. Your right about
it being a bloodbath. I'm convinced thier using some type of aimbots(automatic aiming cheats) but that would be difficult to prove.


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