Compare data for 4.10.1
 

Are their plans to issue "Compare" data for all the new FM's in 4.10.1?

Nicholaiovitch

Good question! I was wondering that too. It can be very handy as a tool for setting up good online scenarios that are "fair" to both teams.

+1.....that's just what I need it for! Very difficult to balance the a/c set for online DF servers without knowing the difference in performance..... for instance the early 42 Spitfire Vc and new 1942 16lbs. version!

I posted on the Ubi site (General forum) and there is now a link to a version of Compare produced by one of the "Other side"....so I don't think I am able to post the link here....however they seem to have included 4.10.1 FM in among the modded FM's (if you open their version and hold your mouse over a selected a/c variant, it states where the FM came from e.g. "Oleg" or "4.01.1" or in some cases "Unknown".

I'm not sure if TD have provided data or whether this has bee produced independently by testing without TD data?

Nicholaiovitch

try this:

http://allaircraftsimulations.com/fo...?f=106&t=31762

Awesome! That is great!

Your Welcome ;)

Using the flight test map as real life reference is misleading, as the planes in Il-2 are tuned to perform to real life numbers under Crimea conditions. Crimea are the il-2 standard conditions. This means they will generally be too slow in a real life standard atmosphere.

I have heard this myth stated many times in the past, but have yet to see anyone post anything that would be considered proof to confirm this myth.

I say myth for several reason, but for two most notably:

1) You would have to belive that 1C was not capable of producing a std atm map or std atm conditions during development testing.
2) You would have to belive that 1C converted all their real world std atm data to Crimea atm conditions before development testing.

The first case is very hard to belive, the second case is doable, but you would have to ask yourself why and belive in the first case. But lets assume case one was true, knowing that real world data is presented in std atm conditions (unless noted otherwise) 1C could easily convert the std atm performance data to Crimea atm conditions for development testing. Assuming that is the case, providing the performance data in std atm, as I did, does not change anything, other than making it easier for all to compare IL2 Compare data to real world data

There are 'other' reason that I can't mention here, but feel free to PM me and I can explain to you in private, Or feel free to belive in the myth and convert the data back to Crimea conditions using the standard conversion equations, all the performance data is provided in text files that you can open up in excel and modify to suit your fancy.

It does not need any data conversion to make a plane that goes 600 under standard conditions real life go 600 under Crimea conditions in game. It's also not a matter of capability, just a matter of having been done that way and why not.

Just pointing it out to you, because as you will acquire real life data, you'll find that many planes are slower than their real life counterparts if flown in standard conditions.

As for the "myth", consider my statement proof.

Nice tool ACE-OF-ACES. Thanks.


And In my opinion this proves that Oleg's stock FM is quite good.

As Aaken's FM (which is considered one of the best in mods) doesn't seem to make sense in some places.

In Aaken's FM:

Late BF109's seems to be better high speed turners than Late 190's...

D9 having similar climb rate to K4, Even though it weights 800Kg more, with similar power...

D9-44 and D9-45 having 400KG weight difference...

Of course he may know things we don't, anyway.