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Worbah 04-13-2011 10:39 AM

Knives
 
Does anyone use these? During the years I've played these games I remember two occasions when knives and bayonets have been useful (one was a lucky Dragunov bayonetting in BE5, the other was when I knew i'd get attacked in the bar after the Base-mission in 7.62)

I do get that they're faster than pulling a gun out at point blank range, but... Ok, you're killing the bandit leaders and their crews for the mechanic. You've got a handfull of mercs, and since you get the drop on them, you're getting your knife out. You stab guy number one, but there's more than 2 meters of distance between you and the next guy. And you get shot.

And I just realized the other day that in both games, I'll have a merc keep a throwing knife for a good portion of the game, but never use it. Can they be used from the pockets, like grenades? I'd guess not, but how far can the average merc throw a knife, how often is it a straight kill, etc. ?

Hurzwa 04-13-2011 01:14 PM

There is an old, ancient and very wise chinese wisdom:

"Never bring a knife to a gunfight!" :mrgreen:

Tozmeister 04-21-2011 06:55 PM

Countered by:-

"Guns for show. Knives for a Pro."

R@S 04-21-2011 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tozmeister (Post 269980)
Countered by:-

"Guns for show. Knives for a Pro."

counter-countered by:-
What if I brought one of the latest BSM additions:

http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/5690/aa12g.jpg

Or:

http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/9540/mark14.jpg

Or:

http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/8632/m200m.jpg

Do you think your knife would suffice:grin::-P

Kuujis 04-22-2011 08:03 AM

R@S - you really need bayonets on those to be effective in a knife fight ;)

Also - maybe create one level for boot camp where only melee weapons are available? :D

IceShade 04-22-2011 09:29 AM

I've always found bayonets and knives to be awful. You run up to an enemy, and you attempt to stab him.. before you've stabbed him, he will have hit you instead. You're now shocked, and he's just going to hit again. And again. And again. A stupid stunlock.

I've only used a bayonet succesfully when an enemy was properly shocked. Then again, at point blank you might as well fire a round from the hip..

R@S 04-22-2011 03:12 PM

Yup, firing from the hip is much more effective, and with a burst you'll prolly kill your target at once.

And why not use one of the latest additions when you do it:

http://img851.imageshack.us/img851/5417/sacrxm8v2.jpg

Tozmeister 05-09-2011 01:36 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNhYJgDdCu4

UselessHeathen 05-13-2011 09:43 PM

@Tozmeister: Yes. Yes, yes yes, and yes. Starship Troopers FTW.

@ R@s: Stop taunting us with toys only you can play with. I want that M14 EBR. On that subject, why does it use the m14-mount scopes? My platoon's EBRs used Picatinny mount scopes. Whoever is making these models needs to quit his day job and start making digital small arms for a living.

@Worbah: I always carry a Ka-Bar or an AK bayonet. If both my primary and my pistol run out, my blade never does. And maintaining stealth is tough in the early game before you get silencers. Getting a stealth knife kill at night is rewarding. Throwing knives just take up space IMO. Not sure, but it seems that stabbing an enemy in the back either mortally wounds or outright kills him.

linhphap 05-16-2011 12:46 AM

""Damn' guns! A knife never runs out of ammo.""

Memories...


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