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JG52Uther 01-05-2011 06:28 PM

4.11 realism
 
Realistic engine/gun failures.
Now we have enforced realism for bombers,lets have some for the fighters as well:
You fly 45 minutes,and find your guns have jammed when you need them.
You are 100 KM's over the lines,when your oil pressure drops to zero,and your engine quits.
You take off,and your engine quits.
You get to high alt,then without warning your oxygen supply fails,and you die of ashyxiation.
Get rid of the refly button in dogfight servers.You die,or bail out,you have to leave the server and come back in,after losing all your precious points.
Sounds fair to me,after all,we are after realism.

MD_Titus 01-05-2011 06:39 PM

oh god.

rise of frustration does this, and god above is it tedious.

engadin 01-05-2011 06:56 PM

It's OK for me, but it should be enabled at will, both on & offline.

Fighting online is stressful enough to add your 'bad luck' or 'goblins f****** job' factor to incorporate an additional touch of frustation to a, let's say, horrible mission where you have been downed several times without even noticing where the enemies came from.

I for myself would curse as never if, after such a strike of bad luck, you finally manage to get an enemy's 6 to find your guns jammed or your oil pressure indicator at null or your engine quiting.

Better not to tight the rope to that limits, IMHO.

Engadin.

Sven 01-05-2011 06:59 PM

Of course these things happened back in the day, but chances were rather small that these things occurred. That's why I don't want to see them in a simulator which focusses for the main part on having fun with a realistic ( to a certain limit ) simulator, including these probabilities isn't going to be the balance between realism and fun, which is why this is a computer game, not reality.

More functions and more systems in aircraft would be a better way to continue IL2, a more advanced damage system when hit by the enemy, for example.

JG4_Helofly 01-05-2011 07:05 PM

An other feature I would like to have is the electric flight seat. If you die in the game, you get hit by 230V until you are dead. No refly button, no points and... no life.
After all it's about realism isn't it? :)

No seriously: Realism is great, but after all it's still a game and the goal is to have fun. I don't think that many people would like to have to leave the server after beeing killed all the time.

If you really want realism, fly coop missions. In those you don't have a refly button.

But random failures could be interesting. If I don't loose my engine in 5 missions out of 10.

Wutz 01-05-2011 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JG4_Helofly (Post 209787)
An other feature I would like to have is the electric flight seat. If you die in the game, you get hit by 230V until you are dead. No refly button, no points and... no life.
After all it's about realism isn't it? :)

No seriously: Realism is great, but after all it's still a game and the goal is to have fun. I don't think that many people would like to have to leave the server after beeing killed all the time.

If you really want realism, fly coop missions. In those you don't have a refly button.

But random failures could be interesting. If I don't loose my engine in 5 missions out of 10.

Oh there are plenty of goodies that have not been modeled yet, that could make flying a real challenge. Think of all those liquid cooled aircraft, now imagine what happens when the radiator gets some hits and the cooling starts trickling out like your oil does?
Or a unnoticed burst tire, which fouls up a landing after a long and successful flight.
Heavy iceing on the wings, would also cause a certain amount of "suspence"
But I would prefer a fix on the bombs & torpedos that they still discharge even though one has been shot down in the time between release and impact. As that has nothing to do with reality at all.

JG52Uther 01-05-2011 07:16 PM

Well TD's idea of realism has been forced on the bombers,its only fair the fighters get their share.
I think engine failure 5 out of 10 times might be a bit optimistic,if flying LW in 1944-45 from an occupied country.Sabotage was rife,so really we should have a problem maybe 8 or 9 times out of ten.

EJGr.Ost_Caspar 01-05-2011 07:17 PM

EDIT: nevermind.

JG52Krupi 01-05-2011 07:22 PM

Uther does not troll.

Since I don't fly bombers i haven't experienced this, surely it can't be that bad Uther!!!

JG52Uther 01-05-2011 07:22 PM

Not at all.Its my request thread for 4.11.Are they banned? Or don't you want realism for fighters?


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