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DrAtomic1 09-29-2010 09:19 PM

Item description error: Ale Barrel
 
Item: Ale Barrel
Type: Artifact (Level 2)
Race: Dwarves

The desription says:
A big belly beer keg.
+1 Morale to all dwarves in the army

Sniper set
-3 Attack, +20% probability of Critical Hit by from arrows
- Ale Barrel
- Telescopic Sight

The issue: it's either by arrows (in which case it grants a 20% bonus to the probability of critical hitting with arrows) or it is from arrows (in which case it grants a penalty where you have a 20% larger chance of getting a critical hit from arrows incoming to you).

Side question: is the bonus/penalty for all projectiles (ie cannons and alchemists as well) or just arrows as stated in the description?

ckdamascus 09-29-2010 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrAtomic1 (Post 185765)
Item: Ale Barrel
Type: Artifact (Level 2)
Race: Dwarves

The desription says:
A big belly beer keg.
+1 Morale to all dwarves in the army

Sniper set
-3 Attack, +20% probability of Critical Hit by from arrows
- Ale Barrel
- Telescopic Sight

The issue: it's either by arrows (in which case it grants a 20% bonus to the probability of critical hitting with arrows) or it is from arrows (in which case it grants a penalty where you have a 20% larger chance of getting a critical hit from arrows incoming to you).

Side question: is the bonus/penalty for all projectiles (ie cannons and alchemists as well) or just arrows as stated in the description?

Grants a bonus to crits. Not all "ranged" units get the bonus though.

I forgot specifically which ones get it, but for the most part, humanoid archers get it.

e.g. hunters, elves, bowmen, goblins.. not sure on catapult.

onepiece 09-29-2010 10:31 PM

Only to units that shoot arrows and not to catapults, thorns and the like (not sure about goblin's; they use axes).

The attack penalty is for the hero (-3 attack to all your units)

DrAtomic1 09-30-2010 01:04 AM

Thx for the answer guys!

ckdamascus 10-30-2010 12:54 AM

The Sniper Set affects:
Skeleton Archer, Archer, Cannoner, Goblin with the Catapult, Elf, Pathfinder, Goblin.

Pathfinder = Hunter.

The description is a little misleading as it clearly affects more than just "archers." It probably means a subset of projectile users, as indeed the goblin uses axes.

onepiece 11-01-2010 12:06 PM

Now those little bastards are gonna be even stronger? Seriously the devs wanted to make a mega-goblin or something that they have made they way too strong?

ckdamascus 11-01-2010 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onepiece (Post 194375)
Now those little bastards are gonna be even stronger? Seriously the devs wanted to make a mega-goblin or something that they have made they way too strong?

No. Not any stronger than in Armored Princess with regards to the Ale Barrel. They have been affected by the Sniper Set since Armored Princess.

Goblins was my 4th candidate archer when I was going the 100% critical build.

Hunters
Elves
Bowmen
Goblins
Paladin

I ended up using a Royal Griffin as my "interdictor" unit though. Seems like the strongest archer builds are 3 archers, one interdictor, one paladin.

Heck, Unicornxp beat the game with goblins, goblin shaman, catapults, royal griffins, and paladins.

I wanted to avoid a repeat of the super sniper build though, but the template seems apparent. :)

Mandea 11-02-2010 08:11 AM

The description says:
A big belly beer keg.
+1 Morale to all dwarves in the army

big problem: those 2 types of droids don't seem to get +1 morale allthough they are dwarves. Maybe a fix in the upcoming patch?
I've just tried this in Champion of the arena.

Jah 11-02-2010 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mandea (Post 194620)
The description says:
A big belly beer keg.
+1 Morale to all dwarves in the army

big problem: those 2 types of droids don't seem to get +1 morale allthough they are dwarves. Maybe a fix in the upcoming patch?

I'm guessing that's actually WAD. Droids may be technically considered "dwarven" troops, but when was the last time you saw droids drink ale? :)

ckdamascus 11-02-2010 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jah (Post 194638)
I'm guessing that's actually WAD. Droids may be technically considered "dwarven" troops, but when was the last time you saw droids drink ale? :)

WAD?

It is possible that droids, as a side effect, can never be affected by Morale, which overrides the "Dwarven Race Morale boost" factor.

In fact, I think it lead to strange bugs where if you used droids, that army "slot" would be forced into a neutral morale, even after swapping the droids to another army "slot."

Yeah, you don't see them drink ale, and, the AI on those Droids are not enough to simulate happiness yet. :)


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