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zakkandrachoff 08-07-2010 02:17 AM

oleg, sparks in burning planes, crappy example
 
"o no, this zakkandrachoff guy again" ... i know, i know, but oleg dont banish me yet, so i will still posting

i do a crappy, small and fast example of sparcks in burning planes.

original
http://i970.photobucket.com/albums/a...0_095926-1.jpg
whit some sparks
http://i970.photobucket.com/albums/a...0_095926-2.jpg

Blackdog_kt 08-07-2010 06:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zakkandrachoff (Post 174013)
"o no, this zakkandrachoff guy again" ... i know, i know, but oleg dont banish me yet, so i will still posting

i do a crappy, small and fast example of sparcks in burning planes.

original
http://i970.photobucket.com/albums/a...0_095926-1.jpg
whit some sparks
http://i970.photobucket.com/albums/a...0_095926-2.jpg

It looks good on the He-111, but not so good on the hurricane at the top of the picture. In the He-111 the effect is better, because it seems like something that's causing sparks is burning and leaving behind a trail. The spark near the hurri is not so good because it looks like small fireworks and not a trail of sparks. That "firework" effect would be more suited to an interior view, for example if an electrical instrument on the panel is damaged.

I do like the one on the He-111 however, it's like the fire burns so hot that small pieces of metal are actually catching fire (it would be possible depending on temperature and the type of metal). I hope i'm explaining it well :grin:

Skoshi Tiger 08-07-2010 11:47 AM

Please bear with me.

Once a long time ago up on the farm we were burning off some rubbish, and my brother threw on a a cracked mag wheel off his car. After a while the wheel caught fire a started to burn with an entense blue-white light that lit up everything for about 200 metres in all directions. It was so bright it hurt your eyes to look at it. Every so often it would kick off intense white sparks. It was really impresive.

I expect the light alloys of the planes would also burn in a similar manner.

Cheers!

KG26_Alpha 08-07-2010 12:46 PM

Let hope these are WIP fire screenies from 1c Team.

They are not looking like high speed fuel/oil fires more like bonfires.

http://www.historynet.com/wp-content...er-carrier.jpg

Dano 08-07-2010 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skoshi Tiger (Post 174060)
Please bear with me.

Once a long time ago up on the farm we were burning off some rubbish, and my brother threw on a a cracked mag wheel off his car. After a while the wheel caught fire a started to burn with an entense blue-white light that lit up everything for about 200 metres in all directions. It was so bright it hurt your eyes to look at it. Every so often it would kick off intense white sparks. It was really impresive.

I expect the light alloys of the planes would also burn in a similar manner.

Cheers!

Burning magnesium will do that :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by KG26_Alpha (Post 174066)
Let hope these are WIP fire screenies from 1c Team.

They are not looking like high speed fuel/oil fires more like bonfires.

http://www.historynet.com/wp-content...er-carrier.jpg

Read the update threads.

zakkandrachoff 08-07-2010 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blackdog_kt (Post 174028)
It looks good on the He-111, but not so good on the hurricane at the top of the picture. In the He-111 the effect is better, because it seems like something that's causing sparks is burning and leaving behind a trail. The spark near the hurri is not so good because it looks like small fireworks and not a trail of sparks. That "firework" effect would be more suited to an interior view, for example if an electrical instrument on the panel is damaged.

I do like the one on the He-111 however, it's like the fire burns so hot that small pieces of metal are actually catching fire (it would be possible depending on temperature and the type of metal). I hope i'm explaining it well :grin:

jeje i dont do anything in the hurri, i forget delete that big spark

i dont like he111 planes , so i like to see how this plane burn.

maybe the fire that oleg show us is in the beggining, them , this extens a lot in a feu secons and is a big white 20 metres fire back the plane.

i can't prove in pics, but in some videos, for example, a p51 shotting a fw and is so many particles of fire and the camera of the p51 pass under this. Them are so much videos of a 109, 190 or 262 shooting a b17 and are too so many white particles. like always : correct me if i am wrong

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oav6...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aqJw...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klXwC...eature=related

KG26_Alpha 08-07-2010 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dano (Post 174067)



Read the update threads.


Update threads are for noobs :)

Avimimus 08-07-2010 08:13 PM

And people who have turned into stale corn.

(IMVHO One needs to take into account quantities and types of fuel, airpseed and scale when making such effects - rules that work for campfires don't necessarily scale up - just like a >100 story tall building with an airplane inside it doesn't tip over sideways like a stack of lego bricks - it is very difficult and beyond me to judge what is correct, but I recommend caution in passing judgments etc.)

swiss 08-08-2010 01:40 PM

in fact I would really love to see sparks when you belly land an airplane on a concrete strip.

Blackdog_kt 08-08-2010 08:41 PM

Yes, that would be fantastic. Not to mention the chance of the sparks igniting fuel from leaking tanks, it would make emergency landings really scary.


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