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the_somme 10-12-2009 04:12 PM

Interview with Finnish Top Ace Ilmari Juutilainen 94 victories
 
Came across this while reading about the winter war, thought it was quite interesting :)

http://www.sci.fi/~fta/finace01.htm


Edit: It's 3 pages, in case someone didn't notice the link to the following page.

FOZ_1983 10-12-2009 04:39 PM

an excellent read, thoroughly enjoyed it :D

to think his 94 victories could be infact many more, but he gave his shared kills up to the younger pilots!!

Seems like a fairly calm individual, the kind of guy you would like to fly with.

FOZ_1983 10-12-2009 04:44 PM

It was so much better than the Fokker that it was in another category. If we had had Brewsters during the Winter War, the Russians would have been unable to fly over Finland. It was also a "gentleman's traveling plane", for it had a roomy cockpit and room in the fuselage, as we used to say, for a poker gang. We unofficially transported mechanics, spare parts, oil canisters etc. in our Brewsters. Once, though two pilots went a little too far - a flight sergeant was flying, and in the fuselage was a second lieutenant, his friend, his dog and a lot of baggage. Upon landing the plane went off the runway and the suitcase came out. Both pilots were punished. Humorously, the lieutenant's sentence started with:"As the commander of the crew of a single-seat fighter.."





absolutely brilliant!!! hahaha, that made me chuckle.

mattmanB182 10-12-2009 04:53 PM

Yes that is a very good read! I havent finished yet though.

Question: Is that Brewster the same one that was called the "Buffalo" in the states? I cant believe you could actually get kills with that thing.

FOZ_1983 10-12-2009 04:59 PM

yup thats the same aircraft :D

mattmanB182 10-12-2009 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by FOZ_1983 (Post 110641)
yup thats the same aircraft :D

WOW! I just can't think of anything else to say.

Swagger7 10-13-2009 02:06 AM

Yeah, the Brewster kinda sucked if you look at its statistics, but the Finns manage to sweep the skies with them. One Finnish Buffalo even holds the record of the most kills per individual airplane, 40 I believe.

Edit: Now I want a Finnish Buffalo in DLC!

Soviet Ace 10-13-2009 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by mattmanB182 (Post 110635)
Yes that is a very good read! I havent finished yet though.

Question: Is that Brewster the same one that was called the "Buffalo" in the states? I cant believe you could actually get kills with that thing.

Actually, in the Pacific. The Buffalo did fairly well against the earlier Japanese planes such as the A5M, and others. But the Zero just tore into them as usual, and so the Buffalo was no longer used as a main stream fighter, except. The Marines actually used them at Midway Island, and even though they were all shot down. They did have the success of downing ten or so Zeros before they were all shot down.

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Originally Posted by Swagger7 (Post 110759)
Yeah, the Brewster kinda sucked if you look at its statistics, but the Finns manage to sweep the skies with them. One Finnish Buffalo even holds the record of the most kills per individual airplane, 40 I believe.

Edit: Now I want a Finnish Buffalo in DLC!

Well this, yes your right. Though the Buffalo was heavier than the LaGG-3 (which was the main Russian fighter during the Winter War), the Buffalo could almost out perform the LaGG-3 because of its low powered engine, and the frame being of, how could I put this? Less than reasonable structure (there was a reason they were called the laminated coffins.) they suffered greatly against the Buffalo. It wasn't until the Yak-1 was introduced into the conflict, that the Buffalo's suffered heavy losses and by that time, the war had already been successful on the ground for Russian troops.

And the only difference between a Finnish Buffalo and an American Buffalo, is I believe the engine? Also I think some of the armaments as well?

Swagger7 10-13-2009 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Soviet Ace (Post 110773)
Actually, in the Pacific. The Buffalo did fairly well against the earlier Japanese planes such as the A5M, and others. But the Zero just tore into them as usual, and so the Buffalo was no longer used as a main stream fighter, except. The Marines actually used them at Midway Island, and even though they were all shot down. They did have the success of downing ten or so Zeros before they were all shot down.



Well this, yes your right. Though the Buffalo was heavier than the LaGG-3 (which was the main Russian fighter during the Winter War), the Buffalo could almost out perform the LaGG-3 because of its low powered engine, and the frame being of, how could I put this? Less than reasonable structure (there was a reason they were called the laminated coffins.) they suffered greatly against the Buffalo. It wasn't until the Yak-1 was introduced into the conflict, that the Buffalo's suffered heavy losses and by that time, the war had already been successful on the ground for Russian troops.

And the only difference between a Finnish Buffalo and an American Buffalo, is I believe the engine? Also I think some of the armaments as well?

Actually I just meant a Buffalo in Finnish markings. They were pretty much the same airplane. And I'm pretty sure that the only engagement of Buffaloes vs the Japanese (at least in American hands) was the one at Midway you talked about. So I'm not sure where they could have shot down older Japanese planes, unless someone we exported them to used them against the Japanese?

FOZ_1983 10-13-2009 11:28 AM

The buffalo got about quite a bit the dirty little tart haha

finland used them to great sucess against the dirty ruski's :P americans used them at midway (not through choice i dont think) the RAF had them in asia and the dutch used the in the easit indies.

they were outclassed though by the zero. That plane was a beast!!! just very easy to go down if taking hits


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