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feloniousmonk 09-17-2010 10:58 PM

Map kiting in Crossworlds
 
I played AP on Hard with a Warrior, which turned out to get really easy in the second half of the game.

So I thought I'd try my hand at Orcs on the March with a Mage on Impossible. I've been unable to successfully kite a map guard, except the one on the coast in Rusty Anchor where I was able jump in my ship. The ones on land seem to have a boundary that they refuse to cross.

It could be that they changed the behavior for the mobs guarding maps, or that I am just not very good at kiting. Can a pro kiter verify whether this has changed?

Infiltrator 09-17-2010 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by feloniousmonk (Post 182270)
I played AP on Hard with a Warrior, which turned out to get really easy in the second half of the game.

So I thought I'd try my hand at Orcs on the March with a Mage on Impossible. I've been unable to successfully kite a map guard, except the one on the coast in Rusty Anchor where I was able jump in my ship. The ones on land seem to have a boundary that they refuse to cross.

It could be that they changed the behavior for the mobs guarding maps, or that I am just not very good at kiting. Can a pro kiter verify whether this has changed?

I must admit that Im glad if they disabled kiting, even though I used it extensively it felt like cheating :/

feloniousmonk 09-17-2010 11:49 PM

I spoke too soon. I was able to kite two maps on Verona... It was just the one on Rusty Island that wouldn't go beyond a certain point.

So, nevermind. :) In any case I'm not sure I want to go for a no-loss on Impossible, since kiting essentially just makes the game easier... (Which begs the question: Why play on Impossible?)

Urbz 09-18-2010 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Infiltrator (Post 182273)
I must admit that Im glad if they disabled kiting, even though I used it extensively it felt like cheating :/

Agreed, it has majorly spoiled the game at first for me personally. A shame its not actually fixed according to monk's last post but I guess i'll just try not to use it anymore myself then.

langtu87 09-18-2010 08:40 AM

I has tried KBAP at impossible mode for both mage, warrior and paladin. With map kitting, it is easy for lossless game. Now I will try with considering the mob which only move when hero very near it is immoblile. Map kitting make me thing like cheating

Saiko Kila 09-18-2010 09:30 PM

Is it possible to have impossible ;) with no loss without kiting at all? And I don't think it's so easy (at least without camera mods ;)) because guards can be nasty (like beholder), unless your'e lucky and get devils fishes or something.

onepiece 09-21-2010 06:31 PM

Some charts guards don't even move, you have to attack them so they're basically impossible to kite.
Although in the first island you can get many charts without kitting since they where almost standing there (without guardian). At least in my current walkthrough.

ckdamascus 09-21-2010 07:45 PM

In Armored Princess, I felt you had to either kite or hope you got a lucky item distribution to win in Impossible Mage No Loss.

Either I got lucky in Crossworlds, or they finally fixed the map/item random distributor.

The Rune Mage and improved Call Phoenix really help a lot, although I am only level 25 or so right now.

Also, the new orc armies do seem to be pretty darn powerful when used properly (and against me,... ugh).

I have not had to do any full kiting at all. I don't consider kiting cheating, just terribly frustrating and a waste of time.

BB Shockwave 09-21-2010 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by feloniousmonk (Post 182270)
I played AP on Hard with a Warrior, which turned out to get really easy in the second half of the game.

So I thought I'd try my hand at Orcs on the March with a Mage on Impossible. I've been unable to successfully kite a map guard, except the one on the coast in Rusty Anchor where I was able jump in my ship. The ones on land seem to have a boundary that they refuse to cross.

It could be that they changed the behavior for the mobs guarding maps, or that I am just not very good at kiting. Can a pro kiter verify whether this has changed?

I was able to easily kite the bear stack guarding the Rusty Anchor map on Bolo. But, others do not kite. It is random.

DGDobrev 09-21-2010 08:18 PM

I also noticed that kiting is much harder now. It is doable, but rather than doable in over 90% of the occasions in KBAP, not it's more like 50%, which gives the players much tougher time.


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