No german cockpit views is NOT ok!
 

In my manual it says there will be no internal cockpit views for the blenheim the bf109 F4 and the A20G. Then i find to my horror that all the german planes lack cockpit views....wft? Now, ive seen the thread concerning this problem but im a little confused about how the problem will be fixed. Will the DLC's be for free?....they should be, otherwise its a certified ripoff!! I must says the lack of these views is a major letdown for me as the 109's are my favorites and thus quite disapointing that i cannot fly them with internal views.

PS: Im on the ps3 version.

The sticky above explains a lot of this.

But I do have a question regarding this issue: if you play simulation mode in multiplayer, aren't everyone's views supposed to be locked inside the cockpit (i.e. no external view)? How then does the game handle all these German planes with no cockpit?

virtual cockpits! :|

Sim offers two views, cockpit and virtual cockpit. The one without the actual cockpit modelled but just a jet-style HUD is the one you'll be using for the German planes.

Right, thanks. Virtual cockpit is the one that looks like I'm flying a closed circuit television camera across Europe right? So in sim mode I won't even know what German plane I'm flying as except from the menu screen. I think I'll stick to realistic mode, at least I can watch it in 3rd person view.

Confusingly, yes. I've always thought of virtual cockpit as the one where the cockpit is modelled in 3D, a 'virtual cockpit', if you will. However the Sturmovik devs refer to this as simply "cockpit".

They're supposedly fixing this by early October, otherwise the issue was addressed a month ago.

i prefer virtual cockpit as i dont have to look down at the dial all the tume in some planes

I wasnt here a month ago. The fact of the matter is that realeasing the game without german cockpits is releasing a game that isnt finished. Its still a kickass game even tho...its just very disapointing and it better not cost me anything to DL those patches. Also please bring back the replay mode. I loved watching replays in the old IL-2 series.

the point is this is the millionth thread on it, look around before posting! there' plenty of these clogging up the forum

Utter crap, you don't know wtf you're talking about. It's been explained by the devs, search you lazy bum.

I would love to have the real cockpits for all the planes, but honestly speaking I finished most SP missions in virtual cockpit view. Especially finding ground targets is stupidly difficult when playing in sim mode.

He's quite correct, a search will bring up the reasons for the lack of cockpits, and the intention to add some of them at a future date - seems like an unfinished game to me.

The poster is entirely within his rights to be dissapointed about this aspect of the game.

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=8948

BEHOLD Mr WANTEH..the sticky thread that explains, comforts and oils the delicate ring of disappointment...:grin:
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Now now....ease up buddy. No need to get nasty and start calling eachother names. I'm not the one in the wrong here. There might be other threads about this but i do reserve my right to vent my complaints anytime and any place. Period.

As stated i have read the sticky concerning this problem but i was also a but confused about it as its written a little wierd if u ask me. English is not my native language....this might explain why im too dumb to understand it....i dunno?

your English is better than most English speakers (trust me, I'm in education)

it was a glass half full/empty kind of explanation...

glass half empty- there's no German cockpits out of the box (but dlc we hope)
glass half full- there was only going to be 12 planes- but now there's around 3times as many (please don't ask an exact number...)
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[QUOTE=juz1;97643]....there's no German cockpits out of the box (but dlc we hope)...QUOTE]

Thank you for clarifying. I guess the above is what i have an issue with. DLC we hope you say. There should be no question about that.

It should just be: Of course there will be a downloadable patch with the missing cockpits because its not in the game even though it says so in the manual. That would be the only fair thing in my view. I'm hoping it will turn out like that.

juz1 you're right, but we're still kinda stuck in realistic mode ^_^

I've read on the forum that the P51's cockpit is not accurate ?

If it's really the case, I don't know what kept the devs to put inaccurate cockpits on german planes too, at least to allow us to enjoy sim mode in multiplayer.

But as long as we can't join started games in multi, I think it will be hard to find sim players anyway ^_^

Now I mostly play in arcade, it's all about action and I like it, so I'm happy I can fly BF109 with external view, better than nothing.

If you read the sticky you will see why there are no German cockpits, you were not meant to ever be able to fly them. I'd much much rather have the planes without cockpits than not have the planes full stop.

Hat's off to Gaijin, we were never supposed to have a sim mode or German aircraft to fly, but we do thanks to them.

Are you serious? We were never supposed to fly german planes? That sounds like they werent even planing to make an IL-2 game. I mean considering the rather large number of axis planes flyable in the old IL-2 series. Im sure 90% of the fans would be very very dissappointed about that.

It's very true. But Gaijin did their job, somewhat. Wish they could have gotten the cockpits as well, but DLC (free hopefully?) will come.