The Demise of Hyperlobby
 

Not enough has been said in appreciation of Jiri's creation of Hyperlobby and the efforts he has put in over the years to provide a free place for us to gather and converse and fly the sims we all enjoy. Many of us are very thankful..but more and more Hyperlobby is being populated with those with zero respect for what Jiri has accomplished.

Sadly now, Hyperlobby is going the same way that the ol' Microsoft Zone has gone.

The absense of any moderators on Hyperlobby is obvious. The moderators have simply left and there has been visually zero effort to replace them. The level of troll like behavior is at an all time high.

And now , the news of Hyperlobby itself being hacked.

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/t...3/m/2441022267


No one is sure how to contact Jiri now that the Hyperlobby Forums have been deactivated.

Many of are unsure of the future of Hyperlobby. There isn't any concrete information on how SOW will be configured and how servers will be handled . If SOW will be hosted on Hyperlobby , no one knows.

Meawhile , an historically healthy and active community has been left holding the bag at Hyperlobby fending off these trolls and hackers.

- Eries

Really? What can we do to defend it?

Maybe another good point to face the fact, that with all the talented and rightful modders, these hackers are part of our community as well. They read our forums, they even post and then they substract 500kg from the plane-weight and go for a fight.

And as in the HL-case, what can we do against it? Probably the same: Put on the rose-colored glasses and say it doesn't happen in large numbers and flame, kick or ban some nicks or IPs. :(

...Some of them are now working for Oleg.:grin::grin:

There is only one way to protect your websites with all the hackers and crackers, since they are not being prosecuted with any real effort.

Make complete backups of websites frequently. This is a lot of work, especially on large sites... there is nothing else you can do.

Human beings are intelligent, resourceful, and often mean spirited. You can't keep'em all out.

More like MS Zone....? Well its time to move on.

I always said, if you want to fly historically online, you have to go private servers where you get to know the people playing. Hard work yea so is life.

As I fly on UK time I don't see any problems in the Lobby any where between 15:00 to 23:00 GMT

What times are these hackers and "Zonesque" upstarts around ?

Hyperlobby has been a great resource for the flight sim community for years and years. At this point though, it's dated, cumbersome and sorely in need of a revision which Jiri will not do (he's said so repeatedly over the last few years and has been invisible for at least the last 12 months).

I stopped using HL about 5 years ago for a couple basic reasons that make HL pale in comparison to other server-finders (like Xfire and the now unsupported AllSeeingEye). For one, it has tight limits on the length of your user name and mine was always 2 or 3 digits too long always requiring some type of wierd abbreviation. Second, is the chat room scrolling across the bottom. It's mostly populated with inconsiderate, potty-mouthed wannabes usually talking about something completely unrelated to flying, flight sims or this community. And lastly, it's become a bit convoluted and can be awkward for new users to get sorted (witness all the threads on myriad servers about "...not being able to get HL working properly".

Don't get me wrong though, it's a sad day when this originally great product from Jiri goes the way of the 'zone', but not because of any recent functionality as much as nostalgiac reasons.

My .02c



Besides, now maybe Galen Thurber will really be forgotten. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...bolt56/der.gif


TB

From Furbals post over at Ubi forums.

"UPDATE: 9 June
Jiri advises that all holes should now be filled and these hacks should not now bother us.
Thank you, Jiri ! (that's fast !)"


Rgr, thanks very much to Jiri !

Now if we could get him to choose again among the trustworthy folks he knows there to create another group of moderators . It would again be nice to see the level of moderator activity we saw for many years early on that made Hyperlobby more of an intellectual experience than an experience of practicing the "ignore" command.

But importantly much apreciation to Jiri for taking the time to do some patching.. Salute !

- Eries

JG27*

Are usually mods

+1 on that. Thanks very much Jiri for mending your brainchild.

I think that the Hyperlobby is still usable. I haven't stopped using it since Sturmovik first flew there. I use private IP as well, but HL remains the place for casual encounters in open coop missions. Sure, there are some total plonkers using the chat now & again - but I don't have a problem ignoring them.

B

With regards to the moderation issue, I don't think there is any problem.
Why would anyone bother if some bs talk is happening in the chat?
Let's not be puritans. HL is working perfectly well and there is no need for moderation.

http://hyperfighter.sk/modules.php?n...showpage&pid=3


case closed

I do regret posting this subject titled as " The Demise of Hyperlobby" instead on "The Demise of Hyperlobby?" or something just as benign.

It really was a question as much as anything. Jiri deserves more in every respect for creating something to serve others. Nothing is nobler than giving of yourself to serve others. I'd wish every patron felt similarly.

A Hyperlobby account is something I'd certainly pony up $$ for , if it maintained its historic level of maintenance and moderation..

That'd weed out a few wingnuts eh?

Jiri has posted over at Ubi for anyone who wants to see whats up and give some thanks..


- Eries

There used to be a Paypal donation button on the Hyperfighter website.

He probably got fed up looking into an empty bucket and removed it :(

Trouble with HyperLobby might have been more apt. Demise is much more dramatic. After I read the thread I did some more reading and read all of the posts on Ubi before I realize that everything was just peachy....and that Jiri had even posted saying that fixes had been made (thanks to him!). No need to cause a panic :)

Well, as long as it works in listing servers i have no problem. I think that in all these years i've never even looked at the chat window once :grin:

I play everyday on hyperlobny in online wars like WarClouds or Wings over Europe or Spit vs 109. And i didn't saw any kind of problems.

Let's not be puritans. HL is working perfectly well and there is no need for moderation.
I agree. What idiot reads the chat lines in HL? I go there pick my server and fly. I don't give a rats behind what the HL rules are and I don't care what a few jack holes say on it, I only care that we've a place to join our favorite servers.
I wish someone could stop stupid posts on forums.. but thats not going to happen.;)

And yet you still hit "Submit Reply"

Its just that faggot Dolphin under alias.....

Just to inform the forum administrators that 13th Hsqn Protos constantly harasses people in forums and HL and that's why he has been banned from Netwings, SimHQ, AcesHigh and many other forums so far.

It would do good to this forum if you got rid of him as well, not that it actually matters to me (I, and many others, get a good laugh with his posts, either insulting or of any other content).

PS. And no, of course not, I'm not posting under any other alias name (Admins can prove that) unlike Protos, who has been caught doing it several times in the past...

Please stay on topic......

This may be of interest......

http://www.eagles-lair.dk

Redwulfs were beta testers.

Nice idea Redwulf,but why would people pay to use this when they have hyperlobby for free?

Of course there has to be some advantage, I agree.

Check this:
http://eagleslair.adelby.dk/download...agles_Lair.pdf

Has quite a few actually, given the price IMHO, might keep out the "not-so-serious" too.

There is no way I would pay for a lobby client for a 9 year old sim. Hell, I wouldn't likely pay for one made for a new sim.

I'm not cheap in any sense of the word, but I'm not frivolous or wasteful either and paying for something that has a free, viable alternative (and not necessarily HL) makes no sense.

My .02c

Unfortunately true.

Can only agree with Thunderbolt56. There ain't no way that I'd pay - annually at that - for a game lobby, regardless how well done it may be or what features it offers.

well xfire is free and it shows not only IL2 servers up, it also shows detailed information on the server set up and which side your team mate be flying red / blue... I use it more than hyperlobby. Also you get free Web space when you set up a squadron, or team...
It also tracks how many hours you spend gaming and yo can make screen shot and videos...

12-month license: $19.95
6-month license: $11.95
2-month license: $4.95


You have to be kidding right ???

But your not are you.................. :(

Ok along the same line of thought ............. how about I do take up a Licence ...... can I charge each pilot that joins my server via PayPal Nocheck etc ???

Nah didn't think so as that's about as popular as paying for your server client.

Life is too short to be serious, laugh it up.

Hyperloboby rules
 

That would be sweet if hyperlobby 2 was out for BOB SOW. Like nostalgia / tradition.

Props out to Jiri for making HL.

last time I checked on HL, the demise wasn't apparent. Then again they said the world would in 2000 because l33t haxors would hack the world because of double digits.

And its supposed to end in 2012 too, because of l33t storm pwnage and calendar outage.

I think though, 2012 will be for enjoying BOB SOW.

I still have 2 kali licenses... that was from when they were $20.00 each

I don't know where to post (HL forum is disabled), so I put it here:

http://home.arcor.de/eldur/bilder/hl-dead.jpg

It's not working since I run Vista x64. Any solution for this?
I tried running it as Admin, but then my imput devices (FFB2 + Simped) don't react in Il-2 anymore, so I can't fly. Seems to me the stick drivers are running on non-Admin level, which kills their access to Il-2 which seems to be elevated by the Admin-level HL.

€dit: For whatever reason, after some tries I noticed that the axes did work (I just tried to look around and lower flaps first), but just not the buttons. Fixed it by elevating the JoyToKey app I use to map my stick keys. So I just run the HL elevated now and it works that way.

BTW, I found a nice trick to run programs as Admin without using that Context menu entry.
http://sbs.seandaniel.com/2007/05/ho...-elevated.html
Works fine for me, although it's a bit nasty to configure it for every program that needs it. Still, once done, the problem's solved.

Try

Download>extract hl.exe to desktop>right click>run as administrator>install Hyperlobby>find desktop shortcut to Hyperlobby>right click>run as administrator>Done.

To fix graphical errors on HL GUI navigate to HL folder. Open Skins>Default>Skin>Edit>Replace>Find what>...>Replace with>..>Replace all>save.





http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthr...perlobby+vista

Just edited my post as I found a solution. Thanks anyway :).