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Spudkopf 03-22-2014 11:41 PM

Display larger than screen
 
G'day All

I decided to finally try and put IL2 46 on to my HP DV-6 (1920x1080) I7 Nvidia Windows 8.1 notebook by the tried and true method of copying my working copy to the HD of my target PC and it seems all to work, well sort of.....

When the game is set to match the native resolution the actual screen seems to fire up several times larger than the actual physical screen (justified to the top left) and changing to lower resolutions does not resolve the issue either, well at least not until it is to small to be of any practical use.

So in desperation I then tried to do total virgin install from the DVD that I would then patch up to 4.12 and this too gave the same results even when the game was set at the installation defaults, changing the conf manually as with me previous copy and paste effort did not help.

Now I have googled high and low not to mention far and wide for a solution (searching here as well), but even though there seems to be quite a few cases out there that are similar, these tend to be on ATI platforms and the solutions do not correspond to what I have (Intel CPU + Nvidia GPU), while other threads that seem promising end before a a solution has been found.

Now I'm sure this must be a common issue and it's probably simple to fix, so could some kind sole please give me a hint as what I need to do or at least point me to a relevant thread.

By the way I've been using Il2 46 on Windows 7/64 on my desktop with no issues.

Below is the relevant conf off my notebook, I've tried switching on and off the usual suspects with joy.

[window]
width=1920
height=1080
ColourBits=32
DepthBits=24
StencilBits=8
ChangeScreenRes=1
FullScreen=1
DrawIfNotFocused=0
EnableResize=0
EnableClose=1
SaveAspect=0
Use3Renders=0
WideScreenFoV=1
UIColor=5
UIDetail=0
UIBackground=de

...once I get the above solved I may need some help to sort out the F1 key taking me to help instead of restoring in-cockpit view, but that can wait.

Just had a thought, its almost like the display is acting like its set for a larger desktop monitor and not for the notebook screen, still been searching for a solution but no closer to solving it.

Spudkopf 03-23-2014 04:55 AM

Screen Shots:

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l1...psd3aa0169.jpg

and

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l1...ps54e9ee36.jpg

Both reduced here for posting, however when they were captured and viewed in photoshop they measured 1920x1080

Spinnetti 03-23-2014 01:05 PM

Hmm.. something with the video card settings in windows or the video card control panel? I literally have exactly the same settings (except 2560x1440) and it works right.

Spudkopf 03-23-2014 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spinnetti (Post 515968)
Hmm.. something with the video card settings in windows or the video card control panel? I literally have exactly the same settings (except 2560x1440) and it works right.

Well I've looked at the Nvidia control console, however there's next to nothing there that would seem to relate to this issue and as far as I can tell there's nothing specific to resolution or screen sizing.

Currently I only have one other sim and a fps installed, these being FSX and Star Wars Battlefront II, and neither of these has any problems fitting onto the screen when the res' is set to 1920x1080.

It just seems like IL2-46 is ignoring the restricted physical size of the 15.6" screen and treating the output like it is hooked up to a 22" monitor?

I could perhaps understand that the issue may be something to do with the a patched version but this is even happens on a virgin DVD install as well :(

RPS69 03-24-2014 04:31 PM

Try this

ChangeScreenRes=0

And probably not needed, but...

EnableResize=1

Spudkopf 03-24-2014 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RPS69 (Post 516029)
Try this

ChangeScreenRes=0

And probably not needed, but...

EnableResize=1

G'day RPS69

Sadly neither switch made a difference.

I've tried the trial and error approach of switching on and off of all of the available switches (including your suggestion) in a multitude of different combinations hoping to fix the issue by accident, but all to no avail, however just to be on the safe side I did try your suggestion above again as well as all the possible combinations of same, yet this also ended with a nil result.

RPS69 03-25-2014 12:45 PM

I read again your first post, and it is trully curious.

The only other bullet I have on my gun is change nVidia drivers t oa newer/older version.

Sometimes there is an issue with games in particular on the drivers set in combination with the chipset, but it is a blind shot.

Still, I used to avoid some of nVidia updates, particularly with il2 itself.

BTW, if you have the oportunity, try it on a machine with the same video controller.

You also give blame on the patch, but you later tried it from the DVD, was it good on 4.07? Even if it will not support the wide screen.

Spudkopf 03-25-2014 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RPS69 (Post 516055)
I read again your first post, and it is trully curious.

The only other bullet I have on my gun is change nVidia drivers t oa newer/older version.

Sometimes there is an issue with games in particular on the drivers set in combination with the chipset, but it is a blind shot.

Still, I used to avoid some of nVidia updates, particularly with il2 itself.

BTW, if you have the oportunity, try it on a machine with the same video controller.

You also give blame on the patch, but you later tried it from the DVD, was it good on 4.07? Even if it will not support the wide screen.

.......curious, your telling me, I've never had this much trouble getting IL2 to work before.

In regards to 4.07, exactly the same problem as with the patched sim'.

I've tried both the original driver supplied with the note book and and two others including the latest one from Nvidia.

Oops got to get off to work will finish my reply later

........@work, and I've got a few minutes before I start.............

There are two other notebooks in the household, these belong to my Wife (Toshiba) and my Daughter (Samsung) and although both are similar in basic spec' (just not as beefy) they are also both Windows 7 machines, but I'll give it a go and see what happens.

My biggest point of confusion is the fact that both FSX and SW Battlefront II worked from the get go, so it has to be something that is particular to IL2 that is causing this issue.

RPS69 03-25-2014 07:21 PM

Ages ago, there was an issue with one of nVidia drivers, that ended on a new corrected release from nVidia. It was still on ubizoo era. Only IL2 was affected.

Don't even remember what it was, but it happened.

Do you tried it in directx instead of openGL?

The big deal between il2 and those two games you mentioned, it is just the use of openGL

Spudkopf 03-26-2014 09:37 AM

G'day RPS69

No the problem exists exactly the same on Open GL and DirectX, and windowed or full screen is just as unplayable.

I guess I could try and grab the driver from my desktop and see what happens, but it's probably not compatible with the one on my notebook, not to mention that been fortunate in that I never needed to roll back an Nvidia driver so not even sure how to so, guess I'll just have to suck it and see.

Spudkopf 04-03-2014 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 54Dutch (Post 516223)
I had the same problem here's is what worked for me.......Your Zoom settings need to be set to 100%....... here is how you do it top right hand corner click on the three bar icon scroll down to zoom and set it to 100% and restart things you should be to back normal worked for me
cheers


Thanks dutch but I think you may have confused my problem with a google chrome issue.

As it turns out, I only just now figured out how to get it to work, I went to the compatibility setting page and checked the Disable display scaling on high DPI settings" option and tah dah it worked.

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l1...ps6152fc1f.jpg

So now I have to work out how to force the function lock to stay active and prevrnt the F1 key taking me to windows help and the F2 key changing the screen brightness.

But at least with the resolution problem sorted I can now consider investing in a 2nd CH joystick for the notebook and maybe another set of rudders so i can have a portable sim' machine.

Spudkopf 04-03-2014 11:18 PM

Well as for the Function Key issue or as I have now learned more correctly described as an Action Key issue.

Well I took to Google to try and find a solution and by a fortunate coincidence (or perhaps by a well orchestrated and pre-empted Google design - My work PC is a HP also) the top search result for “windows 8 f1” took me to the following HP site:

http://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Other-D...2457633#M33836

…..and to this

How to Disable Windows 8 F1 Key Shortcut

KleinC,

If you hold down the ESC when you power on the computer, it should give you a startup menu.
Select BIOS Setup (F10). This will take you to a Setup Utility. Arrow over to System Configuration.

You should now have the option to disable action keys.

Here is a link that will show you how to disable action keys.

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/d...reg_R1002_USEN

Let me know how everything goes.
Clicking the White Kudos star on the left is a way to say Thanks!

Have a good day.
I work for HP.


So when I get home this evening I guess I’ll giving it a whirl to see if it fixes things.

RPS69 04-04-2014 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spudkopf (Post 516280)

As it turns out, I only just now figured out how to get it to work, I went to the compatibility setting page and checked the Disable display scaling on high DPI settings" option and tah dah it worked.

Were you playing this on full screen or windowed mode?

Spudkopf 04-05-2014 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RPS69 (Post 516647)
Were you playing this on full screen or windowed mode?

G'day RPS69

Full screen, before I sorted out the fix I had tried both full screen and widowed and bothe were equally unusable.

RPS69 04-05-2014 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spudkopf (Post 516650)
G'day RPS69

Full screen, before I sorted out the fix I had tried both full screen and widowed and bothe were equally unusable.

Nice find then.

Almost to the point of someone making this a sticky.

SturmovikPilot 05-10-2015 08:11 PM

Disable display scaling on high DPI settings
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Spudkopf (Post 516099)
G'day RPS69

No the problem exists exactly the same on Open GL and DirectX, and windowed or full screen is just as unplayable.

I guess I could try and grab the driver from my desktop and see what happens, but it's probably not compatible with the one on my notebook, not to mention that been fortunate in that I never needed to roll back an Nvidia driver so not even sure how to so, guess I'll just have to suck it and see.

https://www.microsoft.com/surface/en...display-issues

I fought an issue with IL2 1946 v4.12.2m for a long time before I discovered this tip. The game launched fine but the yellow cursor would disappear as soon as I moved the mouse which would then not allow any radio button to be selected. Checking the checkbox in the *.exe Properties menu Compatability tab solved the problem.8-)


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