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prnicolla 05-03-2013 04:37 AM

ENgine overheat
 
Please,tell me what to do in pacific,no matter japs or usa,my engine is always overheat! :(

Luno13 05-03-2013 05:48 AM

What is your power setting? Prop pitch? Radiator?

If you're cruising, you don't need to fly at full power. It depends on the situation, but around 50% power makes a good "economy" cruise, and 70% for "combat" cruise.

When diving, reduce power and prop-pitch. You don't need 100% prop pitch all the time in combat either. A coarse pitch will actually get you a higher top speed, although with slower acceleration. Fine pitch (100%) is used for climbing or quick acceleration.

With these tips you should be fine. Of course, open the radiator if you must, but it will degrade performance.

prnicolla 05-03-2013 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Luno13 (Post 502109)
What is your power setting? Prop pitch? Radiator?

If you're cruising, you don't need to fly at full power. It depends on the situation, but around 50% power makes a good "economy" cruise, and 70% for "combat" cruise.

When diving, reduce power and prop-pitch. You don't need 100% prop pitch all the time in combat either. A coarse pitch will actually get you a higher top speed, although with slower acceleration. Fine pitch (100%) is used for climbing or quick acceleration.

With these tips you should be fine. Of course, open the radiator if you must, but it will degrade performance.

Yes,ma frend thank u,but when im on 50% my scuad is already far away. Im talking not about dogfight. I mean the long range travels to the target,like the Pearl Harbour attack I have to fly over 200 miles :(

sniperton 05-03-2013 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by prnicolla (Post 502110)
Yes,ma frend thank u,but when im on 50% my scuad is already far away. Im talking not about dogfight. I mean the long range travels to the target,like the Pearl Harbour attack I have to fly over 200 miles :(

Your problem might be
1) maintaining an optimal climb rate (keeping up with your squad) until you reach flight altitude;
2) maintaining an optimal speed (keeping up with your squad) once you're at flight altitude;
Which one is your problem? And
Do you decrease mixture with altitude?
Do you reset the supercharger with altitude?
Do you decrease prop pitch with growing speed?
Do you retrim your plane for level flight?

Luno13 05-03-2013 10:57 AM

Yeah, the AI in Pacific fighters travel way too quickly, and it should be treated as a bug. It can be corrected using placificplanes.dat file, or something similar. I forgot how to do it, so someone more knowledgeable should weigh in.

prnicolla 05-03-2013 02:05 PM

Thank u guys! One more stupid question(apologise): What is Mixture for? And prop pitch? And Trim?

sniperton 05-03-2013 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by prnicolla (Post 502132)
Thank u guys! One more stupid question(apologise): What is Mixture for? And prop pitch? And Trim?

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MaxGunz 05-03-2013 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by prnicolla (Post 502110)
Yes,ma frend thank u,but when im on 50% my scuad is already far away. Im talking not about dogfight. I mean the long range travels to the target,like the Pearl Harbour attack I have to fly over 200 miles :(

I think this must happen to just about everyone at the start. Try this:

Keep your nose down after takeoff, gear & flaps up until you have at least 340kph/210mph. Then shallow climb to maintain that speed. When you get co-alt with your squad, start cutting back on RPM/prop-speed and throttle so you don't go blazing right past them fairly soon.

Nose high and slow, you make a _lot_ of drag. It's better to lose a bit of height to speed up than to mush along slowly if at all gaining speed.

Treetop64 05-03-2013 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luno13 (Post 502109)
What is your power setting? Prop pitch? Radiator?

If you're cruising, you don't need to fly at full power. It depends on the situation, but around 50% power makes a good "economy" cruise, and 70% for "combat" cruise.

When diving, reduce power and prop-pitch. You don't need 100% prop pitch all the time in combat either. A coarse pitch will actually get you a higher top speed, although with slower acceleration. Fine pitch (100%) is used for climbing or quick acceleration.

With these tips you should be fine. Of course, open the radiator if you must, but it will degrade performance.

^^ Pretty much this, in a nutshell. ^^

I'm willing to bet that most of the people who experience frequent engine overheating are almost universally those who mismanage their RPM settings. Some even firewall the throttle and prop in all flight regimes, and leave it there, even in a dive, thinking "the mostest means the fastest", then wonder why things break.

My wish for v4.13? Compulsory ground school for new players. You don't get to fly squat until you can demonstrate that you understand the basics in how planes fly, how engines and propellers work in aircraft, and how to get the most out of them. Hell, even throw in a bit of math and make 'em work on propeller efficiency and advance ratio, and so forth...

sniperton 05-03-2013 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Treetop64 (Post 502140)
My wish for v4.13? Compulsory ground school for new players. You don't get to fly squat until you can demonstrate that you understand the basics in how planes fly, how engines and propellers work in aircraft, and how to get the most out of them. Hell, even throw in a bit of math and make 'em work on propeller efficiency and advance ratio, and so forth...

Take it easy, mate. As it goes now, attraction comes first, learning afterwards. More effective and motivating than the other way round. After all, we are only risking our nerves, not our lives. ;)

MaxGunz 05-03-2013 10:10 PM

Anyone who drives a motor should know that running close to redline no matter what gear is going to heat up the engine fast.

Back RPM off to 90% and see how long it takes for the engine to begin to cool. Then try 80% and 70%.

edit: Joystick tip: in the stick settings, add FILTER to pitch/elevator/Y-axis. Try 50% just QM test flying with no other planes to see how it feels and if it improves your acceleration and speed. It makes you smoother but a liitle slower, move your joystick the red and green blocks show the actual vs filtered (what IL-2 sees) control move. It isn't much delay even on fast full deflection which is "jerking the joystick" in classic flight sim fashion, it only goes a short way to lessen the damage. Hmmm, I never tried 100%. Repeat: it makes you fly smoother.

When two opponents meet, a good energy fighter pilot can run less power and still move faster than pilots who fly without as much regard for energy use, budget, and the vertical, often making speed-wasting hard flat turns instead. The energy fighter can be running cool with heat reserve to run or climb hard if need be while the turn fighter runs all-out and won't be turning so hard in a while.
The energy fighter doesn't like to pull more than 2 G's for more than short times and spaces those out. The energy fighter changes direction by rolling while flying up or down then pulling out in the new direction, can "turn" 180 in a few seconds.
The energy fighter employs lag pursuit to chase an enemy. If the enemy changes direction much, the path of the target will become longer than the path of the hunter. You can run down a faster target if it is turning just because of that. Follow a point behind his tail and you will be on a lower energy path, then do lazy yoyo's until you get a sure shot. Repeat as necessary.

Treetop64 05-03-2013 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by sniperton (Post 502143)
Take it easy, mate. As it goes now, attraction comes first, learning afterwards. More effective and motivating than the other way round. After all, we are only risking our nerves, not our lives. ;)

Yeah, yeah, I know. It was a bit on the surly side. But I regret nothing, I tell you! NOTHING!!!

IceFire 05-04-2013 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Treetop64 (Post 502147)
Yeah, yeah, I know. It was a bit on the surly side. But I regret nothing, I tell you! NOTHING!!!

Here... have a beer! :cool: :evil: :cool:


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