4.09 (posible) release date?
 

Wen is the final version of patch 4.09 comming out? or is there any news/update about a posible release date?

A lot of us have been waiting for so long on the final version of this patch because for most of us using the beta is not an option.

How long are we waiting now on this patch? it takes most developers less time to create a new game!

I'm just really disapointed that theres not any good info to be found on the 4.09 patch.

Hearing plenty of stories that 4.09 never is going to be released because the guys that where working on the patch found other stuff to fill there time with.

Oleg or Luthier already answered this to some degree, it will NOT be released until they reach a certain stage with SOW:BoB and can spare the manpower to put it together - when they will reach this stage only they know.

Just do a search on Oleg and Luthiers post when you visit the forums (What I do), I tend to notice that their post count hasn't changed so I don't bother reading much else here until I see the post count go up as everyone else's point of view is just speculation IMO.

Why nobody read? :evil:

Indeed.

Or uses the search-function.... :rolleyes:

Well, to be honest he was reading. It's just that he read the wrong information from the wrong sources. ;o)

Oh, sorry then. :o

I was told that Oleg and his team where working on SoW indeed but that an other small group was working on the patches...

If there working so hard on SoW they shouldnt have started with patch 4.09 imo untill they really had the time to do it.

SoW was supost to be out in 2006, if it still hasnt reached that stage in its development Oleg was talking about than who know wen we ever see this patch... maybe After SoW is released?

There is no decent info on 4.09, only rumors and a lot of topics like this one one this forum.

People come here for straigh awnsers because this is supost to be where the developers and Oleg come and read and post there comments, but its always the general users who comment on questions like this.

Im not the only person who feels like this.

Contents of 4.09 patch are developed by 3rd party. They are not part of MG. People who are responcible for including those contents into IL-2 are busy with SOW and until they achieve their goals, they will not complete the final 4.09.

As far as SOW goes, people "in the know" never gave any ETA of SOW... they suggested some dates as possibilities, but nothing concrete. Unfortunately "some" publisher and several retailers had their own look at how development of SOW is going and produced their own dates, which created nothing but confusion.

This is well known info often stated by Ivan, Feuerfalke, and a few others. BUT I can understand if your not a frequent vistor and don't know the history it would be difficult to ignore posts from a few disgruntal members unwilling to accept reality.

Consider yourselves luck in South Africa, we have to convince our state run entity to update servers, I think we were play 4.04 for almost a year before we got them to update to 4.08.
So chances are when 4.09 gets updated on our servers SOW will have been out for at least two years lol.
And ditto to the rest of the post, no 4.09 until SOW BoB mile stone is reached (closed beta) will be my guess. And no I like everyone else here do not actually know anything but we all have our own opinions

AFAIK it takes maybe one afternoon to compile all the map stuff into 4.09 so the time exactly can not be the issue. Maybe there are some other considerations.. (like "no winter Slovakia for you boys until you make the beta version of BoB" :D)

Why not?
And don't tell me it's because there are no 4.09b servers on Hyperlobby. There are dogfight and coop servers available.

There is also an easy switcher that will let you play both with the click of a mouse.

It IS an option.

Its time used to trace every bit of code be it script, sound or terrain and all the rest to see if the modder accidentally lifted it from other copyrighted sources.
An ardious task at best.
While a modder will not be chased down by other game/music/software distributers a publisher of 1C's standing will.
So in a nutshell (it has been repeated at nausium in the various threads) until they are sure no copyright infringements have taken place 4.09 will remain a beta product.

Linky please ;)

Why not just accept 4.09b as an official patch. I have found it odd that some players still won't run 4.09 because it's a "beta" !
HL DF's are nearly all 4.08 aswell, considering that the beta's been about for such a long time and that the official 409 is a long way off, it's about time people embraced 409b as an official patch so we can have some sort of level ground to play on.

Yes, and to run a DS you would have to run the game itself in order to use 4.09m beta... NOT going to happen. That is why we refuse to go 4.09m. If there would be a beta erlease of DS package... we would care not, i'm sure.

http://www.mission4today.com/index.p...etails&id=3305

In the 3rd party content (maps) there are no "sounds, scripts or terrain" to be checked for legal reasons. To put the final 4.09 with the content of beta, it takes few hours maybe at max.

Thank You Ivan, that explanes it.

Maybe Maddox should hire you :) If it was a matter of few hours, it would have been done long time ago ;)

I don't know about the rest... but hiring the Slovakia team might not be that bad a thing for the final state of SoW (Its quite the map you guys made, I can't help but to wonder what other maps could be like made to the same standard).

Yes this standard bodes well for future FB maps, but this standard will be far surpassed by SOW. Also the tools for making maps to SOW standards will be made available to the community.

Lol, thanks.

And wife bugs me about starting a project before the previous one is finished... :rolleyes:

I guess that answers my main question: will we see 4.09 sometime soon or not? The answer is "not". Not ... until the new game is finished.

I find that thought process extremely weird. When SOW:BOB is released, interest in the IL-2 series will decline sharply. Why not release the final 4.09 patch while folks are still interested in -and playing- the IL-2 series?

Oh well... doesn't matter much anyway. The vacuum created by demand with no supply is filled by the 12,000+ folks working the un-sanctioned side of things.

Russia's at war, that might be more important than a patch just now.

If Georgia invades Moscow it might affect Oleg.

Otherwise nada

what a nonsense buahaha

Yes only about 2000 dead so far...

And we have been at "war" since 2001, and it hasn't stopped any of us from gaming, and no publishers have stopped selling/supporting games because of this.

You are being overly dramatic JG52Uther.

You think? I am trying to make the point that a war is a little more important than a patch for a game,that Oleg has already said will be out when a certain milestone in SoW is reached.

Yes!
The war will have absolutely NO affect on development and to think so is very unrealistic. Only if it became a war on or over Russian soil could it possibly cause Oleg and team problems and even then only if it was on Oleg's doorstep or turned into a global conflict. Other than that its going to be exactly like the USA/UK/CAN/AUS etc. etc. about Afghanistan and Iraq - have any of those countries had their computer programmers stop work because "the war is more important"? No, and again, to think so is just ridiculous tosh!
Argueing that the war is important is just a mute point - it has and will have nothing to do with the development of 4.09/SOW or the price of eggs!
So, please, uther, drop your point, it isn't usefull to the conversation at hand.

Back ontopic - has anything oficial been said about what "point" SOW must reach before 4.09 can be worked on?
I see that peopel are commenting on closed BETA but do we have any official words on that?
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While it has not been officially said one would assume that milestone would be either a working late Alpha or the closed Beta.
As Oleg has mentioned he will be inviting a select few to take part in a closed beta I am betting that would be the case.
But honestly it is a waste of time debating when, if and how it will be released.
It like everything else on this forum depends on Oleg and he ain't talking!

I cant believe you are even bringing war up in this thread... Not cool...

+1

next item:political correctness

You do realise the irony of this on a forum dedicated to a game that simulates..............war.

Wonder if my grandchildren will ever play "Su-25: Forgotten Battles"?

I sometimes wonder why the Slovakia and Bessarabia mapmakers don't just send their final versions to AAA and let them implement them. Everybody could use them with confidence then. The MTO map that came with 4.09b has already been superceded by the new desert maps available over there.

http://ide.li/modules/Forums/images/...n_rolleyes.gif or not.

;)