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Simple question, what is going on?

As the title says, I would like to know has the IL2 series including Clod been canned as rumoured?
Has Ilya left MG?

When rumours get this bad, it needs someone to stamp them out by actually answering questions and not by simply deleting threads.

+1

In before deletion!

hmm if I understand those rumours right (and if they are true, of course), I am of the opinion that those new 'facts' might, after a transition period, actually be beneficial to CoD and the Il-2 franchise in one or another way.

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Originally Posted by Redroach (Post 480796)

If the rumors are right, the franchise is over.

+4

I fear nobody will answer anything or maybe they give us a lukewarm short message as they did with Captain Blood

Had to laugh at Captain Blood's demise lol

On this one they have been asking since 2011

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=28251

Imho Ilya (Luthier) left the building direction south asia, followed by several different former coder. 1S swallows the next FlightSim Studio (-777-) who will then create a sequel, if you wanna call it like that.

+1 and 1C, stop deleting threads, just answer the bloody question.

otherwise your delete thread button, is gonna be pretty worn i suspect.....

If that happens, they'll happily exchange it for a new one. :grin:

Yep. We'll just keep making new threads until our question gets answered.

So: Answer us.

A simple "Yes, work continues on the sequel" will suffice.

+1000000000000000000000000000000000000000

1C respect to consumers = zero.

Don't cry latter about that...

Business people can not answer questions before negotiations are over otherwise it will hurt negotiations.

Personally I think info posted on a German UBI forum sounds like possible.

IMHO as community did not like the devs the publisher could possibly just fire them. Sounds like a logical business decision.

if this will become the major topic here in forum I suspect they will close it.

Then we'll just make a new one.

And then another....

Its not breaking any forum rules that i can see...

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Originally Posted by CaptainDoggles (Post 480827)

Yep. We'll just keep making new threads until our question gets answered.

So: Answer us.

A simple "Yes, work continues on the sequel" will suffice.

+1 -- Snapper

+1 -- Dutch

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Originally Posted by CaptainDoggles (Post 480827)

Yep. We'll just keep making new threads until our question gets answered.

So: Answer us.

A simple "Yes, work continues on the sequel" will suffice.

Or a "No, we're finally fired now!" :D

(yes this carries a lot of schadenfreude - flight sim folks is really devoted and didn't, in the slightest, deserve a team that jokes around with customer 'opinion' like they did...)

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Originally Posted by Redroach (Post 480848)

Meh, I won't shed a tear if it has happened, but I do hope they haven't been fired/made redundant/whatever.

Being unemployed is not a fun time for anyone.

Salute

From the SimHQ forums. Jason from 777 responds to comments:

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Recall that Jason previously undertook a project to create a
WWII Burma sim in collaboration with A2A, and after about
8 months they announced it was shelved as they simply did not
have the resources between them to pull it off (and I would
guess the unspoken admission that they were unable or
insufficiently confident of success to acquire the necessary
outside investment to continue). This suggests that 777 would
love to get into a WWII sim if they could pull it off, but
also that they probably still can't (it's not like the economy
is currently looking ripe for a new sim, or much else...).

PV1,

It was not a Burma sim, it was a P-61 and then a P-47 sim set in the Pacific with the Merlin engine. I had funding set up in the beginning in 2007 and we began work, but then the funding dissappeared soon after when the economy tanked and I was never able to find more funding again for the team and I didn't want work to continue with no one getting paid. It was a good learning experience though. Then I concentrated on finding games to publish which eventually lead me to the ROF team and the rest is history.

And I'm sorry, Chivas is probably a nice guy, but he doesn't know our finances. ROF has turned a profit every year since 777 took over. Yes, we ask for continued support because when you have a program of constant development you have to remind people to keep up the support. And building a huge WWII sim is a multi-million dollar expense very few in this tiny genre can afford outright not matter what business their current title is doing. All this talk comparing CLOD to ROF is not worth the effort. Soooo much misinformation about ROF and the CLOD engines and their teams floating around. Plus so much hate and angst out there in this genre that doesn't need to be there. It annoys everyone involved in making these titles and some talented people have quite over it. Does anyone even fly and have fun anymore?

The posts at 1C were taken down because they do not appreciate their forum being used as a conduit to bash 777 and ROF and we agree with them. Such harsh comments do not further this genre at all.

Anwyays, all this has been interesting to watch, but please don't push falsehoods about the 777 Team or ROF. ROF is an EXCELLENT product and works very well on a wide range of systems. It does things no other sim does and does most things better than any other prop sim ever made. Our business model works and it's kept us going, along with our dedicated fans, for several years now. And it costs you absolutely nothing to give it a go! We have a track record of keeping our promises and having open and honest communication with our community and giving them regular updates on progress. We've worked with talented parties in the community to make some cool content for the community and we listen to our fans as evidenced by the content and features we have added. Our team, management and technology has been recognized by other organizations in the gaming industry and some have asked for our help on projects not even related to hardcore flight-sims that you will most likely never ever know about. We are not the backwater rookies some uninformed people on internet forums make us out to be.

This should be one big happy genre. I can't change what other companies have done to piss people off, but we work hard every day to improve our product and by extension the genre.

I'm going to bed now. Tomorrow is Friday and my wife is out of town so it will be a ROF MP all weekend! See you in the sky!

Jason

As he said he would, I saw him flying on the RoF servers on Friday. If he was so involved in negotiations to sell/buy, would he have the time to spend his weekend flying?

When an important deal is being negotiated, whatever it will be, from 1C buying 777, to MG negotiating publishing conditions for the sequel; a misplaced word on an innocent response can backfire and throw aways months of negotiations.

I´m sure this "silence" has a reason to be. I still think high of Maddox Games and Luthier and I don´t think they will just go away without a single word.

We will have news in due time, meanwhile COD rocks online, we have great servers and even online campaigns. Not to mention IL21946.

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Originally Posted by *Buzzsaw* (Post 480855)

From the SimHQ forums. Jason from 777 responds to comments:
...
Soooo much misinformation about ROF and the CLOD engines and their teams floating around. Plus so much hate and angst out there in this genre that doesn't need to be there. It annoys everyone involved in making these titles and some talented people have quit over it. Does anyone even fly and have fun anymore?
...

Jason confirms what is evident to all the reasonable people in the forums, namely that the haters and their destructive vendettas are really causing damage.

It will always be a mystery to me why these haters (some also polluting this thread) don't just walk away and spend their lives on things they enjoy more, instead of spouting venom ad nauseam and wasting everybody's time, including their own. When they look back in some years' time they are bound to ask themselves why they wasted their lives like that... At least I hope they will...

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Originally Posted by Bobb4 (Post 480791)

What we got is all we are getting bros. I wouldn't buy another thing from any place that is remotely associated with anyone at 1C or Russia. In fact I'd rather have a hot poker shoved up my rear end than give a penny to these lairs. That is just my 2 cent take it or leave it.

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Originally Posted by Ataros (Post 480833)

IMHO as community did not like the devs the publisher could possibly just fire them. Sounds like a logical business decision.

I think the community likes the devs. It´s rather the managers that decide about money we don´t like....

Well a new lot can't be any worse than the last lot.
+1 to the OP ,lets see if it's 2 weeks before anyone bothers to remember the customers.

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Originally Posted by Kongo-Otto (Post 480799)

+4

I fear nobody will answer anything or maybe they give us a lukewarm short message as they did with Captain Blood

Oh no. Watch. There will be a phone call made and someone will say "the cats out of the bag".

That person will wet their pants and send in the brown shirted SA forum thugs to ban and delete post in an attempt to quash this thread. But I guess it was all too predictable and I should have believed it long ago when I read it in here over a year ago that this sim was dead. How foolish I feel that I actually have to apologize to these guys that I thought all along were trolls. God do I feel dumb. Sorry chaps. But its a new day for me and I just don't care any more.

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Originally Posted by Gabelschwanz Teufel (Post 480894)

http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs19/f/20..._dantiscus.gif

I had to lmfao..

So what's the deal?

Is it just the fact that people haven't heard from the team for over two weeks and everyone's starting to panic, or do we have a legitimate question on our hands?

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Originally Posted by JG26_EZ (Post 480898)

...do we have a legitimate question on our hands?

The legitimate question:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHN6AViJAvI

:grin::grin:;)

A well-respected forum member posted, claiming he had inside information from trusted sources that the sequel has been cancelled.

Ooooh. You all gonna get ba-anned...

Forum rule 113bfX342a (the secret one).

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Originally Posted by planespotter (Post 480912)

Ooooh. You all gonna get ba-anned...

http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/9471220.jpg

Hang on while I look for a picture of me not giving a f-

Ah, can't be bothered.

+1 with Doggles :)

Who gives a F- the game will no longer advance so this forum is over. It is up to the community now to take over as there will be no more 1c input.

Well if they really have stopped then I am willing to start modelling up a 190 :D

I have started it already for another project ;)

well i am really enjoying CloD, only just upgraded my gfx card so i can actually play it with good settings, all this speculation, i reckon the announcement will be soon, just hang in there.

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Originally Posted by Freycinet (Post 480869)

Oh but they love the sim so much that`s why they flame :grin:

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Originally Posted by carguy_ (Post 480934)

Oh but they love the sim so much that`s why they flame :grin:

http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instanc...x/24387593.jpg

:-P

See now, posting profanity and stuff just gives them an excuse to lock it.

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Originally Posted by carguy_ (Post 480934)

Oh but they love the sim so much that`s why they flame :grin:

True dat..

If true, the funny part will be when Tree claims to have predicted all this years ago! At which point one has to ask, if he truly belived what he said, why didn't he leave years ago! ;)

Salute

Everything in this thread is speculation. With perhaps the exception of the comments from Jason of 777.

Which is why 1C should probably let us know what the status of the game and its development is.

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Originally Posted by *Buzzsaw* (Post 480943)

Far too much Speculation going on lately and this thread is only provoking some bad negative behaviours.

There is nothing going on as far anyone knows officially, so just wait for an announcement. (when who knows?!?!)