For the Developers: wrong 3D model of Bf 109F in Il-2: BOM pictures
 

Dear Developers,

I have noticed a graphical bug on the (work in progress) Bf 109F screenshots published of the Il-2: Battle of Moscow. It appears that the 3D model of the 109F has a slight issue, namely that the radiator flaps are missing a detail on the otherwise highly detailed 3d model.

The radiator ducting on the 109F had a split arrangements, with a separate boundary layer separator duct running above the coolant radiator and discharging the slower boundary layer through the upper radiator flaps, in order to reduce drag and improve radiator effectiveness.

This was deleted on the subsequent 109G and K model. However, the 109F 3d model in Il-2 BOM lacks this details and effectively shows the radiator setup of the 109G instead.

Please check the attached images below and if possible, fix this during the development.

Work has finished on this @ 1C so.....

Osprey, where did you get that from? I heard it too, but i am interested in other sources.

The 109F-Bug was reported to the 3-D modelers afaik. B6 stated that they know about it.

Well you'll have to try the ATAG or SIMHQ forums because discussion here about that isn't allowed.

Thx.

From the German Ubi-Forum I heard (yesterday) that work continues, but with 777-Studio-Members.

Luthier seems to have left 1C and is working on a Korea-Project with another engine.

http://forums-de.ubi.com/showthread....nd-12-Nov-2012

Pff. That's sad news.. :(

yes it is, but as nothing is official so far, you can still hope it is only rumors;)

With PR this bad it will always be rumours.

Is it really sad,this management made a complete pigs ear of this sim ,hopefully someone can step in and complete it.

Partially correct. It does not "continue" per se as sadly, the CLOD engine has been canned.

I really hope this is true, wish him the best of luck and offer my full support.

Also, I wish all the ex MG employees the best of luck in their new jobs (for those who got transferred) and finding a new job (for those who did not get transferred)

Source?

The German forum says the engine remains the same if I translated correctly.

In general it sounds as more or less good news to me. Could be much worse. RoF team are aviation enthusiasts which is very important.

A Korean War Sim made by Luthier (he surely is planning this project for long, remember the Korean War add-on that we heard of a few years ago?) does sound like good news to me :grin:
MiG Alley is getting old :-P And Strike Fighters feels too "arcade-ish" to me.


The guys from 777, that have often been praised here, cannot be a bad solution for continuing this project.

What we'll never know is what happenned in the inside. But, really...
Who cares? :rolleyes:

If there is any truth in this 777 are the only company left that can make a decent ww2 flight sim. Unfortunately when they will begin making one is anybodies guess :|

There will be others.

I'd be more interested in seeing an open-source community effort. Graphics might be awful, but I bet we could get really high-fidelity physics and flight/damage models.

You say this as if it is confirmed and not just rumours. I'd like to hear about the sources as well...

And I would like to hear from 1C.

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=35951

I would like to see in that grafically awfull project people ranting about too much green in some landscape textures... hehehe

Save your time and efforts because we have been had by the Russian mafia gangsters. Fleecing the public and running and hiding when found out. You are not getting another 109 ever again. Period. You might as well cut that picture out pin it up.

The nice thing about an open-source community project would be that anyone could contribute models/textures/etc.

We could put it on Steam to enforce anti cheat. VAC does indeed work, despite what people in this community tell you. I think more likely that CLOD has not enabled VAC.

I'd be damned if the devs do anything to fix a detail like this when the game barely runs.

The game barely runs or you don't know how to configure it?

I would'nt bet on a community project.

Who here really has the knowledge to code a proper sim engine ?
And more importantly, who here is OK to code a new engine without getting paid ?


You seem to not realize how huge and time-consuming this task is.
I'm not even talking about netcode :eek: and dynamic flight models :-x


I'd like to see how the angry ppl here would handle this project :-P so we can compare :rolleyes:

It's quite funny how some users don't realise that if you have bad performance there are various options that allow you to change the graphics until you get good performance such a great innovation perhaps MG should patent the concept!!! ;)

Exactly, Its surprising how good the game looks on medium settings, and how well it runs.
My specs are AMD Athlon II x2 215, on a crappy ECS motherboard that wont let me overclock it, ATI Radeon HD 5850, 4gb of some random Corsair ram & Win 7 ultimate.

With settings medium to high I reach 30-40fps online with all hell breaking loose, and its more than playable. Nothing is overclocked, and most importantly I run my computer and no software tells me what to do, or has crap running in the background. It just takes some effort instead of expecting everything to just fall into place. That's also why options are included.

see? i was right. i was thinking at the beginning that the plane was a G-2 for a second. :-P

seems the trolls and whiners are running wild with this, and there are no real facts to go by

the most serious problems with CoD have been fixed in the last few months, and since the recent official patch runs very well for most people (for those that have actually tried it, and dont just mindlessly repeat old negative crap which shows their ignorance and lack of knowledge)

most work on BoM has already been completed in the last year (remember, its what they were working on for almost 18 months now with a 15 man team while NOT fixing CoD), and BoM could be released early in 2013 to quickly create a new revenue stream with significantly better sales then CoD

the main CoD flightsim forums are in the last couple of months again filled with positive user reports and many people are returning to the sim and enjoying the good parts.

all that is now needed is for a few of the main flightsim websites to re-evaluate the sim and write a more positive review, and the whole negative saga is behind us :) (doesnt mean there are no bugs left or issues to fix, but most are relatively minor now and can be addressed as part of the final BoM development phase).

to abandon BoM now would make no commercial sense at all

If all was true(though i disagree) then the people who count the beans will know and....

1) Luthier will have been able to show the sequel is viable and able to do as promised(if they have reached the milestone Luthier spoke about a few months back)...and all of this is wild speculation and wide of the mark.

2) The sequel will be announced in good time and we have nothing to worry about.

Or what you wrote is not true and the engine is not up to the job, the problems not easily fixable and it doesn't make financial sense to progress the series, which means.....

1) The sequel is canned.

2) The job is handed to another development team and we have a long wait on our hands to get another flight sim.

We will know soon enough i guess...