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harry250 11-10-2012 05:12 PM

did 1c ever consider making a civilian flight sim to replace the msfs gap
 
love the flight model in 1c maddox simulation series

i would like to ask 1c if they ever considered using there simulation code and adapt it to make civiallian aviation flight sim where you can fly around the world in a 747 etc

would need world wide coverage of naviads

and lots of civiallian planes

for console or pc if it will help sales



just one last point

ive been thinking about what most sims miss at the moment

wings buffeting around due to turbulance

its abit like if your sitting on the ground in a glider waiting for winch launch

and some ones holding one of the wings up


if they move the wing there currently holding up and down violently jolting it randomly

this is what an aircraft experience during flight and you have to fight this with small corrections from time to time

i wonder if this effect could be modeleed and incorperated into 1 c simulation games???


anyway would love to here from 1c about some of the above thoughts

thanks

klem 11-10-2012 10:07 PM

I doubt it. They're having too many problems getting "SoW" to work properly.

Chivas 11-11-2012 12:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by harry250 (Post 479728)
love the flight model in 1c maddox simulation series

i would like to ask 1c if they ever considered using there simulation code and adapt it to make civiallian aviation flight sim where you can fly around the world in a 747 etc

would need world wide coverage of naviads

and lots of civiallian planes

for console or pc if it will help sales



just one last point

ive been thinking about what most sims miss at the moment

wings buffeting around due to turbulance

its abit like if your sitting on the ground in a glider waiting for winch launch

and some ones holding one of the wings up


if they move the wing there currently holding up and down violently jolting it randomly

this is what an aircraft experience during flight and you have to fight this with small corrections from time to time

i wonder if this effect could be modeleed and incorperated into 1 c simulation games???


anyway would love to here from 1c about some of the above thoughts

thanks

Yes, Oleg planned this from the start. He wanted more community involvement in the new series, by releasing SDKs for maps and aircraft building. The map SDK was scheduled to be released with the Sequel, which would allow people to adjust the Channel map or build smaller maps.

Feathered_IV 11-11-2012 12:29 AM

Oleg also said the Su-26 would be supplied as an editable test bed that would allow third party contributors to use it as a guide to making new aircraft. I wonder if that is possible.

Friendly_flyer 11-11-2012 08:07 AM

I suppose the issue will have to wait until things stabilizes a bit.

Kongo-Otto 11-12-2012 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by harry250 (Post 479728)
love the flight model in 1c maddox simulation series

i would like to ask 1c if they ever considered using there simulation code and adapt it to make civiallian aviation flight sim where you can fly around the world in a 747 etc

would need world wide coverage of naviads

and lots of civiallian planes

for console or pc if it will help sales



just one last point

ive been thinking about what most sims miss at the moment

wings buffeting around due to turbulance

its abit like if your sitting on the ground in a glider waiting for winch launch

and some ones holding one of the wings up


if they move the wing there currently holding up and down violently jolting it randomly

this is what an aircraft experience during flight and you have to fight this with small corrections from time to time

i wonder if this effect could be modeleed and incorperated into 1 c simulation games???


anyway would love to here from 1c about some of the above thoughts

thanks

not sure if serious...

Von Crapenhauser 11-12-2012 10:20 AM

FSX Exists Allready.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by harry250 (Post 479728)
love the flight model in 1c maddox simulation series

i would like to ask 1c if they ever considered using there simulation code and adapt it to make civiallian aviation flight sim where you can fly around the world in a 747 etc

would need world wide coverage of naviads

and lots of civiallian planes

for console or pc if it will help sales



just one last point

ive been thinking about what most sims miss at the moment

wings buffeting around due to turbulance

its abit like if your sitting on the ground in a glider waiting for winch launch

and some ones holding one of the wings up


if they move the wing there currently holding up and down violently jolting it randomly

this is what an aircraft experience during flight and you have to fight this with small corrections from time to time

i wonder if this effect could be modeleed and incorperated into 1 c simulation games???


anyway would love to here from 1c about some of the above thoughts

thanks

You could allways buy MS FSX
Its real cheap now and with my new rig runs at 90 odd FPS.... BRILLIANT!:rolleyes:

Von Crapenhauser 11-12-2012 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Von Crapenhauser (Post 480272)
You could allways buy MS FSX
Its real cheap now and with my new rig runs at 90 odd FPS.... BRILLIANT!:rolleyes:

Must addmit the scenery in CLOD is better at low alt though:(

klem 11-12-2012 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Von Crapenhauser (Post 480274)
Must addmit the scenery in CLOD is better at low alt though:(

Yes although FSX photo scenery (Horizon or Just Flight) is great from about 3000 feet and you can actually recognise where you are.

And if you hit a tree you stay hit!

Chivas 11-12-2012 05:37 PM

Flying low over FSX scenery makes you want to hit a tree, although I think FSX has other good points and decent addons. If the new IL-2 game engine survives and improves, it has the potential to be a very good base for civilian user made content, like aircraft, and map improvement mods. The IL-2 game engine was initially designed to evolve with technology over the next ten years or so, unfortunately the engine can't start evolving until its finished, and it appears it may be done, before its finished. lol

ATAG_Colander 11-12-2012 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chivas (Post 480433)
Flying low over FSX scenery makes you want to hit a tree, although I think FSX has other good points and decent addons. If the new IL-2 game engine survives and improves, it has the potential to be a very good base for civilian user made content, like aircraft, and map improvement mods. The IL-2 game engine was initially designed to evolve with technology over the next ten years or so, unfortunately the engine can't start evolving until its finished, and it appears it may be done, before its finished. lol

Yes, I think is done too and either there is no one left to admit it or we are being ignored/neglected.

Chivas 11-12-2012 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ATAG_Colander (Post 480434)
Yes, I think is done too and either there is no one left to admit it or we are being ignored/neglected.

I think its very close to being done, but I don't think its done yet. If they stop deleting negative speculation in these forums, then I will know for sure its done. Unless the moderators deletion of the threads are unsolicited, but when that happens they usually just "lock" the threads not totally delete them.

SlipBall 11-12-2012 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ATAG_Colander (Post 480434)
Yes, I think is done too and either there is no one left to admit it or we are being ignored/neglected.


It has been only 3 weeks or so, lol...don't worry, it will be announced:-)

"I know all of you are anxious to know about what happens now. Unfortunately we’re not ready to post that just yet. We will post announcements and a more detailed roadmap in a very near future."

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msalama 11-13-2012 08:58 AM

If anyone makes a new civvie sim these days it'll be ED with their DCS engine, not 1C.

klem 11-13-2012 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlipBall (Post 480472)
It has been only 3 weeks or so, lol...don't worry, it will be announced:-)

"I know all of you are anxious to know about what happens now. Unfortunately we’re not ready to post that just yet. We will post announcements and a more detailed roadmap in a very near future."

Define "very near future".

I know, I know, but the way they walked away from the simple problem of FMs in CoD has left many of us staunch supporters feeling betrayed. There was no attempt to amend the Release Candidate for some of the simplest problems. The quick release on Steam and the deliberate suppression of speculation has inevitably made people suspicious.

Who was the moderator that deleted IvanK's thread? Perhaps he could explain. To avoid infractions, that's a suggestion, not a demand.

planespotter 11-13-2012 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by msalama (Post 480664)
If anyone makes a new civvie sim these days it'll be ED with their DCS engine, not 1C.

Yes total agree.

But they are not there yet. P-51 from DCS is FSX with guns - but there is nothing for your P-51 to do except fly around and shoot at the ground because DCS world is modern jet sim where P-51 gets blown down from the sky by G2A missiles and radar AAA and jets and choppers with A2A missiles. You can blow up trucks with WWII rockets, but not main battle tanks! You can fly P-51 vs AI P-51 but the AI P-51 does not understand laws of physics, and you can fly online P-51 vs other P-51 pilots but good luck finding a server with this, I have tried a couple of times only one server can I find, and usually no one on it when I log in. Anyway how much fun is P-51 vs P-51 online - once you have done a couple of times, it is yawwwwwn.

They will get there though, I think P-51 is just first step. Then then need bigger maps, different theatres, different aircraft. I am faithful they will.

klem 11-13-2012 01:22 PM

When DCS add a FW190, perhaps the D9, or even a late 109, I'll buy it. Maybe then we could get some online interest.

Does it lend itself to any kind of campaign or combat scenario? MIssion building? Map object placement?

IvanK 11-13-2012 08:12 PM

DCS world Mission builder is awesome in its capabilities !

planespotter 11-13-2012 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IvanK (Post 480883)
DCS world Mission builder is awesome in its capabilities !

Yes but only can do with maps and objects of lock on era, not WW2


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