Star Wars is Doomed
 

Doomed to become corperate cash cow, like I, II, & III were not already, are you prepared to have your childhood raped?

http://uk.movies.yahoo.com/blogs/mov...224243313.html

Please now go here...

http://nooooooooooooooo.com/

For $4.05 billion (£2.5 billion) I would have sold it as well...

Me too... :(

Get ready for the Star Wars brown avalanche!

National Treasure was actually cool, on the other hand I've never hated a character as much as Jar Jar.

it's not really turning to the 'dark side', Lucasfilms certainly weren't going to make any more films, George Lucas is being retained as a creative director and the original films will always be available.......don't give in to hate ;)

Anger... fear... aggression... too stong these feelings are! - Help it I cannot!

but if you strike them down, they shall become more powerfull than you can possibly imagine.

Look on the plus side, 3 more films.

With a bit of luck, somebody at Disney might read The Heir to the Empire trilogy of books, by Timothy Zahn.....

Disney own Marvel too don't forget, and I never saw Mickey mouse ears on Iron Man.

Too late are we... Help them now... you cannot...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5ZsMBLUsqU

I'd rather robot chicken had it... :-P

the best comics ever i think was the disney ducks

Well, if they got Lucasarts in the deal we may get SWOTL 2 - and no problem with lawyers if they want to include a correct skin for Gallands 109? ;)

EDIT: And we will forgive them for SWON if they don't mention it! :)

I thought there was something wrong with Lucas when he 're-did' his three original movies and made them special editions. I mean, you just don't do that. A movie is a movie and its done. Final-wrap and that's it. Live with it.
I liked the originals the way they were without all that CGI added. And I still have those on VHS.
The only good thing about the new episodes 1, 2 and 3 was seeing Vader born. Other than that it has all been driven into the ground and the magic has been put through the ringer and twisted til the last drop has fallen. And now this. It will be truly driven into the ground now and more than six feet under.

Lucas was so tight and over powering on everything star wars - until he had milked every last drop... No he sells it, it gets rehashed every which way with Disney... Makes sense.

Just remember kids!

- Everyone and everything has a price!

A tribute to Jar Jar Binks...


Hopefully here in NZ we will keep Peter Jackson and Weta Workshop

And we'll see more of our Hobbit freinds.

Millions of dweebs suddenly cried out in terror, and were suddenly silenced. I fear something terrible has happened.

Disney does ok with Marvel and Pixar.... I am not too worried... not like 1C bought them....

Star Wars needs some sort of revival.

Lucas had his fist tightly in the series, but later he messed it up with the new preequals.

And Joss Wheldon said something where he ruined a great moment in cinematic history, by the original trilogy taking away from the Luke I'm your father moment. But alot of star wars fans really did want to see Anakin become Vader.

Which is legit but Lucas didn't really hit his stride until the 3rd in the new trilogy.

But for the new ones, Lucas didn't capture the essence and feeling that the Original Trilogy did. Which is weird because he primarily made it up. He did have gifted writers helping him out also.

Another problem with the novels / new trilogy is I feel they stray too far from the originals also.

The Force was down graded from a spiritual mystical aspect to a biological component, oh more midichlorians = more pwnage, and borrowing from the Bible . . .

Lucas' new trilogy didn't have the character interactions that the original trilogy did.

Despite Lucas having an iron fist, the Star Wars extended universe had alot of releases that were jokes.

Some novels had a blob enemy as the main bad guy, others had a biological alien creatures unable to use the force but were evil and conquering and hated droids (like GI Joe's biological enemies).

Some gems were there like the Thrawn Trilogy that really captured the essence of Star Wars that the Original Trilogy did. Or the video games, of PC knights of the Old Republic, and also the Force Unleashed story line (not the second one though).

The clone wars animation are pretty good, but imho they are more action oriented, and doesn't have the depth . . .



But in the end it comes down to this:


If Disney does to Star Wars what it did with Pixar and Marvel, then Star Wars is in for a revival. If Disney can let people direct (and also use Lucas' input) and make Star Wars that is similar to the original movies, its good. If they capture what made star wars, star wars (set it apart from Battle Star Galactic and Star Trek & other space operas . . .)


If Disney does what it did to its own animation and development studios, its own animation movies, and what it did to John Carter Mars series . . . ouch . . . Star Wars will finally die as it's been suffering from mediocrity for a long time.


And we wont know until that first movie is made . ..

what's wrong... ? didn't anyone like the other thread on this same subject??

Disney can actually stop Lucas further vandalizing his original triology. Look at what he has done: Solo doesn't fire first, adding CGI to 70s movies, the face of young Anakin at the end of episode 6. Come on Disney, get rid of these sick "artistic touches" and re-release the original triology as it used to be.

Concerning future films, I don't really worry or be excited very much. Even under Lucas's hand the prequel triology fails quite miserably to match the epicness of the original one (it did have some shining moments though). It's now the time to start a new Star wars in its new way. Look at 007 series. Everyone hated Daniel Craig as the new Bond, but after 3 films with quite different style from the old flamboyant version, the new series really got its deserved stand in 007 fandom.

Good post, I was never into the other things that got gobbled up so I dont know if it can be good or not. We will have to wait.

What other thread, please enlighten us.

be enlightened :cool:

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=35497

Craig sux.
The soundtracks are a terrible(!).
The suits from Tom Ford.
The cars have no masculine gizmos(haven't seen Skyfall as yet)

:-x


screw it, this thread has more posts, so it's the official one. :)

Who would be your best Bond-actor and why?

Connery - without a doubt.
Although personally I prefer Brosnan.

You ask why?
Did you actually bother to watch the old ones(feel free to skip Lazenby)???

@ Swiss...

well, it does now ;)



Lazenby was the closest to the character Fleming created, perhaps closer than Connery but Connery had more charisma on film... Brosnan? since when was Bond a yank?? and Moore was just way off track.

i have almost all bond movies (except for Dr.No and Her Majesties secret service) and i have watched them all, many times over, including the currently missing 2. For me the best Bond is Timothy Dalton (read the books and you know why ;) ), in second place comes Craig, then Brosnan, Connery, Lazenby and in last place Moore, he was the worst of all, way too shallow in his portrait of Bond. Bond does what he does out of Patriotism, but he doesn´t like it at all. Remember what Dalton said in "The living Daylights", "If M fires me for it, i´ll thank him for that". Connery, Moore and Lazenby don´t even touch that aspect of the character with a cattle prod. What Craig did near the end of "Casino Royale", quitting his job at MI6, would be unthinkable to connery and co., hence why i rate him in second place. He just continues with his assignment with MI6, so he can get revenge for the love he lost. I have yet to see Skyfall, so that rating isn´t final.

S!

iirc Fleming's Bond did offer up his resignation in Her Majety's Secret Service

Great, I actually care more about the character they've built up over the decades than the books(I will never red one, promised).

Dalton was pretty awesome too, 3rd place imho.
What all 3 have in common(and craig lacks) is: Style.

I must admit, i haven´t seen this one in a while, but yes, you are correct.

@swiss: i wouldn´t say Craig lacks in style, his is just different from the former ones ;) . Let´s take it to the air and just say the looser is right (as that will be me :D ).

@ Swiss...

read the Bond books Fleming wrote (he also authored Chitty Chitty Bang Bang - go figure), they're a marked difference to the films

Brosnan is Irish not a yank.

@ Wolf Rider...

read post #30.

What about this Bond?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7LjOy9UrPI

read post #34 :grin:




Wot!? Irish? some might say that's worse - given "the troubles". :rolleyes:

Nah seriously, Brosnan moved to the US in '82 apparently and seems to have lost his "original" accent (at least to the point where it isn't anywhere near enough to an English accent)

Personally I think Timothy Dalton was the best Bond. The biggest problem for him was that they were 80s films and had that lack of style that categorises 80s films. He was to my mind the closest to the Bond as described in the books.

Connery has never been a good actor. Lazenby was good. Moore was rubbish but the films were entertaining. Brosnan was good but lacked the nasty streak. Craig is very good but he's now more a paramilitary type than a spy/assassin.

Everyone will have their favourites.

Hood

It's pretty obvious that the marketing people decided with the latest Bond films they were better off abandoning the suave/sophisticated Bond (and the existing audience that liked that franchise) and instead should try and capture the "proven" market, especially in the US, for thrillers featuring a brash all-american style action hero.


Indeed ... as the Cold War is over and CNN is now full of Iraq/Afghanistan. The new Bond is just a NATO/US special forces operative out of uniform.

There is no "real" Bond. Fleming's character has little to do with the films - in the same way that Shrek-the-book is nothing like Shrek-the-movie-franchise.

To my mind Connery was the best - a charming sociopath (as character, not the man). Moore was pantomime, Dalton and Brosnan a bit meh, and Craig is Bourne. I quite liked Lazenby, but mainly because his film followed the book and had a bit of an emotional punch.

Actually, I do also have a soft spot for Brosnan as "Goldeneye" is one of my fave-ever videogames

n64?

Bond has changed. They could call the next one The Bond Ultimatum.
I quite like it though. But it's different to what is was when it was at it's best (with Connerey).

Who cares about Bond! Start a new tread.