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When I start a new game and the camera pans over the starting area the ocean flashes white several times.
I have a Radeon 6950, i5-2500k, Intel Z68 mobo and 16GB ram. |
This post contains all fixed bugs from various patches.
Hero Skills
Olaf and Valkyrie Rage Abilities
Spells
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Achievements & Awards
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I've noticed two bugs:
Witch Hunters, when you use their 'Magical Help' ability to get a random buff, the buff is ALWAYS dragon slayer. Considering you rarely fight dragons, especially in the beginning of the game, this makes the skill less than useful. Diplomacy is supposed to make the enemy creatures desert if you don't have enough leadership for them. Instead, it recruits them anyway, making you go over the leadership limit, and thereby causing one of your stacks to go berserk. This makes the skill a DETRIMENT to your character, and is a major flaw. |
Game hard locks without fail whenever I try to change the terrain texture quality forcing an alt-f4.
To reproduce simply load up a save and then open up the options menu and lower the texture quality and then hit apply. Keep raising or lowering the quality and hitting apply and it will then freeze. Most times I had to hit apply after changing quality was twice until it froze. Also, I see ZERO difference between low textures and high textures. Something is wrong here... textures look very blurry even with at 16x filtering and high terrain textures. =/ |
Thanks, I made some updates. RE the terrain quality switch, what kind of graphics card do you have? I'd like to mention it when I post it.
RE diplomacy, is that how the test says it's supposed to work? Because it if it was, then you'd only be able to use it when you're armies were less than full (and I don't know about you, I'm always "full" if possible). Seems to me if it's working as intended then what you're supposed to do is visit a garrison before the next combat so you can save the extra troops. I suppose they could at least go into open/eligible reinforcement slots. Anyway, not sure if this is a bug vs. working as intended. Perhaps add to the suggestions thread? |
When talking to the king there is a spelling error
somewhere on the second line it says So i rather be kind or something like that this should be corrected as KING and furthermore beserker mad rage is supposed to have 100% cricitcal chance? Cause they attacked and both attacks were normal lol? i was attacking a zombie dunno if that helps:evil: |
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Diplomacy is still useful for convincing some portion of the enemy to desert, even if the 'join' function doesn't work properly. The main issue is that your guy will recruit to a stack that's already full, and then you will immediately go into the battle with a stack that is no longer under your control. This is especially vicious if you choose to have one of your barbarians rage, because they will immediately charge your own (no longer led) group and attack it. I can't imagine this was intended, and if it is, they need to redesign the skill to not screw you over when it's used. I wouldn't mind so much if this was a skill you could skip, but half of the green skill tree requires putting at least one point in this skill. |
the ai treats the rabid condition just like a hypnotic one, this is likely a mistake although not strictly a bug it makes rabid way overpowered
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sometime this game is randomly crashing t.t
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the skill from the warrior maiden "call to valhalla" is bugged
Call of Valhalla does not work correctly, it at most only will heal the most recent losses of the target unit, not all losses suffered in the past 2 rounds another bug from the same skill round 1 ->5 losses on a creature ->round 2 "wait on maidens that they can cast at end of round 2 -> again 5 losses at the same creature lvl 3-> maidens cant ress anyone 3rd bug same skill start round 1 "wait on maidens" -> berserker loose 1 or 2 , cant ress them in the same round 1... this skill is overall bugged nothing works here, sometimes it worked but 50% of all fights it dont... i play on hard skill level if its important i dont know |
1C always launch a beta game, complete full of bugs and crashes.
im rly mad!!! haste $30, and i cant play. |
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Edit - I think I've figured out what is happening. If I unit goes before the maiden does on the second turn it counts as them having taken their second turn and they can't be rezzed anymore. So raging berskers are extra fast and for me that means they beat the maiden in initiative the next round and miss their chance to get rezzed. |
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and I've played already 16 hours. |
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I post a pic here there I read about orcs and maybe its wrong? I have try defeat Eric with a very little army and get no achievements. I get no achievements on my steam so I think thats not work. |
The Greed/Greedy ability for Jotun doesn't seem to work. Multiple times I've got the kill with the Jotun, and I've never got the Morale bonus.
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The game CRASHES every 5 minutes when im facing an enemy on island 2!!!
I'm very dissapointed i can't play the game. It crashes on the desktop abruptly and it shuts down!!!! i7 win7 |
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Sometimes killling 2 or 3 of them at same time with my slinger = Crash !. Load, try again and kill them with a spell = No crash. Killing one of them = Random crash!. Put a trap in front of them, they walk on it and die = No crash. / Etc. Well, at least you learn to quick save before ev'ry battle... I tried to sacrifice regalia to the 1st valkyrie (= Christa) --> Nothing seemed to happen, the offering was still there --> Clicked on the offering again = Crash !!!. I kinda think, it should dissapear and not stay visible. Well, it does, if you "exit" the invertory screen. |
Apart from the gamebreaking diplomacy bug (getting your units uncontrollable) I also encounterd a bug with Crystal Collector medal:
For some reason, crystals collected stopped counting at 53/60 mark (happened around the second island). Since then, I collected tons of crystals on the map, some from the battle chest and also from items destruction, but no more are counted. |
Some of the Awards are not working as described. These would probably just be tooltip updates.
For example, the 'Troops Trapped' award ONLY goes up if the unit DIES from the trap. This might be working as intended, but if so the tooltip has to be updated. The Valkarie Abilities Used is either not working or needs to be more descriptive. I've used the Valk in battle a number of times, but it appears this tally only goes up when you use their out-of-combat ability. (For example, I have 1/10 because I used the first valk's ability to give me money after unit deaths once.) If this is the way it's supposed to work, a less vague tooltip would be appreciated. |
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The medals "Favorite of the Valkyries" and "Valhalla's Messenger". The first one says I have used 0/10 valkyrie abilities when I have in fact used Christa's Gold several times. The second one gives me a 3/10 for "Enemy troops destroyed by Vikings" when I have been using nothing but Vikings the whole time.
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I've discovered some annoying bugs aswell.
After defeating an opponent I recieve practicly no exp at all, it simply says " [] NF " or something like that instead of the amount of exp that I should gain after the battle. There was only 4x thorn thingies on the island for the alchemist quest, and after completing the some more islands, i've yet to find any more of them. Whenever i sacrifice/give/donate or whatever to a valkyrie nothing happens, and if i try again the game crashes. When using the orc hunters ability to control an enemy animal, if that creature is still alive when it ends I've not been able to attack it in melee and had to use my ranged units to kill it. And then there is the random crashes that happens now and then. |
Character stuck on geometry
I managed to get my character physically stuck on the Island of Isterring while landing near the top of the mountain with the burned birds nest. (NE corner of Isterring)
Is there any /stuck command to unwedge me? |
The Award "Favorite of the Valkyries" doesn't register anything after using Valkyrie abilities for near one hundred battles!
Also (and this may be driver related or something) my game crashes whenever I try to sacrifice a weapon to the appropriate Valkyrie. I think this game is great, and many of the bugs mentioned before can be bypassed, but the ones concerning Valkyries are too important, as are the battle abilities. |
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Thanks guys, updating the thread now. I am not going to post every crash since those tend to be specific to individuals (we really need a tech support sub forum for those).
Regarding the problem with not enough Thorn Sprouts, can somebody tell me the name of that quest so I can post something they can look up? Also, has anybody actually verified what causes the "Troops killed by vikings" counter to increment? Clearly it's not killing troops with Vikings, and destroying stacks of enemy vikings doesn't seem to be doing it either. Could it be killing a viking hero or an amry that has a viking unit leading the stack on the world map? |
After playing a bit more I got few more things to report:
I got into the battle with some neutrals and since they also had some griffins with them, the diplomacy bug kicked in and my griffins spent their fight flying like idiots all over battlefield until they got hit by 2K stack of fireflies (that sure woke them up). After the battle finished, I noticed that my maximum rage dropped from 112 to 78 for no reason. I tried to switch my senior valkyrie a bit and also tried shuffling my equipment to help the game remember, but the maximum rage stayed low. I replayed the neutral battle with some griffins in the reserve and rage did not get nerfed. Conclusion: Better not even start any battles with diplomacy bug, the bug might do more than just make your battle harder. Second one: Valkyrie map abilities (refund for fallen warriors in the next battle etc.) seem to take longer to recharge with every use, but the game kind of forces you to use spam the abilities asap to get the Favorite of Valkyries medal. The problem is that the bonus for the medal seems to be worded such that it reduces the time for the map ability, not the battle ability. It seems a bit pointless to spam the ability 10 times, getting its recharge time from 10 battles to 20 battles, to get a modal lowering the recharge from 20 battles to 19 battles. Just putting it out there, I need to do some more testing on this. |
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I just made an account to start posting about the dozens of bugs I've encountered in my first 2 hours of play. If you don't have anything useful to add it's way better to just stfu thx. Basically the game needs patching before it can be played as it should. There are multiple skill descriptions that are wrong, dialogue problems, skill issues, and hard crashes. I'm a huge fan but I must wait for the patch to be able to fully enjoy the game. |
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On un related note, it would be nice if a mod made this a sticky thread, I've already PMed and wall posted but they don't seem to be working this weekend. And of course what I'd really like is for the devs to read it.
Not sure why this is the only KB game without a tech sub forum or why the dev/mods seem to be MIA. Maybe they are taking a break after launch, sometimes they need breaks after long pre-launch hours. :) |
Christa's gift makes the game stop progressing if you have it at range 2+ and the first mob that gets attracted to the gift is blocked by another mob. Basically the AI doesn't know what action to do with that mob so it gives the hourglass indefinetely.
Menu is still working so the game is still properly running though. Isn't an crash. In my case it were 2 zombies blocking the route to the gift. |
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Gift of Odin ability for the War Maiden's doesn't seem to always work. I've no idea exactly why... perhaps there is a leadership cap on it or something?
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What the heck is with Eric? I mean, when I battle them, the game randomly crashes whenever I do some specific things, like casting snowstorm with my Soothsayers or attacking his bears, but I cannot foretell what will happen... I need to be a Soothsayer myself to be able to predict what will crash the game and what won't! This is seriously annoying.
Also, No-loss game is damn impossible if they put an enemy hero 5 levels higher then you on the first island who has to be fought to progress, and your only means of resurrection are Soothsayers. Seriously, he has 100 mana and casts Phantom blade or Poison cloud every turn. |
Another bug.... apparently, the "homeopathy" thing works with the rabid state, huh? I used Loki's Rage to make some ancient bears Rabid, they attacked some wolves who retalieted and caused the bears to be Rabid again - I got the message "Ancient Bears overcame their fit of Rage" twice in the text bar, and the state "Rabid" got removed, despite the condition lasting 2 turns.
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Sorry for very late reply - I am using a ATI HD 5850 with latest drivers that just game out 3 days ago.
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Has anyone gotten a spell or rage crit yet? I have Icy Rage and Destruction skills maxxed. I was quite perplexed as to why I haven't scored a single critical with any non-unit ability. I even modded the skills.txt file to bump up the % crit to rediculous level (80%), and I still haven't gotten a single crit.
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Oh, another one - although no Level 1-3 creatures could retaliate to Warrior Maidens, I found that Swamp Snakes can (in the training cave), for some reason. |
Okay thanks, added the Rabies and Gift of Odin issues.
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Game crash on Vesling Isle during this battle, just after you leave Nordling isle and begin to explore Vestling.
For me, the crash appen when calling rage against enemy at 1°st turn. The game quit to desktop without any message and no log info. |
I do not know if this is a bug but the last 4 or 5 tree trunks I opened had nothing in them. I got the message that says something like "you only find dust and cob webs inside".
Are you supposed to be able to go 5 in a row and find nothing? |
Greetings,
There are some graphical bugs ..related to oceans and certain areas. I have a GTX 5950 updated with the latest drivers. |
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On Vestling Island, just meet Christa The Stunning at the sone circle, i try to donate her a Demon Tongue (obtained via artifact creation) and the game quit to desktop.
Apparently it's because the dialog box remain after the item disappear, and if you click "donate" twice the game crash. |
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Should I have unlocked more Rage abilities yet? I am playing at a Skaald class, level 7, I used Rage ability every turn as much as possible yet I have never learned a new Rage skill besides the one you start with that hits all enemies in a circle. This does not seem to correct to me. I do not think I am gaining any experience for my Rage abilities.
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Your rage ability will unlock after you meet the first Walkyrie on the second island (there is a stone circle, is part of the main quest). After get the Walkyrie on your hero panel, the first battle will give you access to the "gold" ability, and after victory you can choose several ability, oone after another. After that, you need a patch to fix the "crash in battle" problem :( |
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So... anyone got any idea on how I could proceed past Eric? I have to fight this battle to leave the island, but whatever I do, it crashes sooner or later. Should I start a new character? But what is the guarantee it won't crash at the same battle again?
Another bug I found (seriously, in Crossworlds the russian version was this buggy, by the time we got our version, it was so much better) - I keep getting text messages about my Vikings now avoiding critical hits due to Sense Weakness - but, being a Soothsayer, I never even have that skill! Only happens with Vikings. |
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I'd like to add that Beholder is treated as Mage unit. Beholder has no spells so it shouldn't. (He gets more damage from the Magic arrow spell) |
Guys, thank you very much for the reports. The devs are working hard to fix as many issues as possible.
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I currently have one rank in the skill Transmute. (Mana on unit stack deaths)
If I destroy an enemy unit with a spell, I do not gain the mana from its death. Haven't tried it with multiple ranks on the skill yet. |
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Critical hit of Rage skills: [param1]. Chance of freezeing a troop for [param2] rounds with probability [param3]. I assumed that "Critical hit of Rage skills" meant that rage skills can now deal critical damage. The alternative being increasing crit damage of rage skills makes no sense. [param1] was originally maxxed at 9% (I think). I bumped it up to 60%, which should give me more than one crit per two targets (assuming damage is calculated separately for each target in a multi-target rage skill). However, I've had 0 crits total, before and after I've changed the value. [param2] and [param3] works as indicated (and when modified). So yeah, translation is a bit splotchy (Favorite of the Gods is another one). Skill might also be borked. |
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Btw, quick question - a bug that I once fixed but could never replicate the process for some reason, in Crossworlds. The morale-raising ability of Royal Griffins did not affect Rune Mages for some reason. Pissed me off as I was using an all-human+Griffins army. Was that ever fixed for WotN? |
The Goblin Shaman ability "Threads of Life" doesn't seem to target properly. The Shaman cast the spell on a unit (the ability basically reflects some of the damage a unit is dealt back on the attacker), but when I attacked a different unit (without the spell), I got damage reflected back on me.
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To solve i simply skipped battle. |
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Spell "Last Hero" causes a crash when the unit is attacked. Commonly used by the skald (viking). Workaround: DONT use skalds in your army and dont use the LAST HERO spell. And kill enemy SKALDs fast. |
Or add -dev on ashortcut of the EXE. When you encounter a freeze, just alt tab to close the error message.
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the -dev thing did the trick, it used to crash at the fight with Eric (so it was a non avoidable fight), happened 7 times, but after adding -dev and starting as admin no more crashes. Will keep fighting and checking if any more occur.
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@Qnk Modding skills take 3 steps : 1) setting parameters of skill in sessions/addon/ses.kfs/skills.txt , 2) setting those parameters to match with their pair in sessions/addon/loc_ses.kfs/eng_skill.lng 3) checking skill mechanics in sessions/addon/ses.kfs/skills.lua I try to find this skill description in skills.lua and cant find it, so it maybe missed by devs. Didi you ever get some enemy unit frozen for 2 rounds by viking troops ? If YES then only rage skills crit% is broken, if NO then whole skills doesnt work :-( @BB shockwave Quote:
I just installed game and on to checking millions of files before starting to play, and this moral thing miss is only star of journey :-) |
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Crashed to time in a row, then fought and won (just before victory window to appear) against Rusty Hook (pirate in the ship) in Island of Istereng.
I do get occasionally crashes, but reloading helps it. |
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More updates.
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Here's one I did'nt see mentioned:
The tooltip for the Rune Chain spell reports an incorrect damage value when enhanced with a units runes. I click the spell, then a unit with enough runes to get the most out of the spell, then highlight an enemy and the tooltip says it will deal 610 damage, but when cast it only deals 462 damage. (I've cast it on many unit types and its not a resistance thing). Also, the tooltip will report a higher damage value if the unit has more runes available. Casting it off my Soothsayer will say 759 damage, and this can be further increased by giving him more runes with Runic Word spell, the damge inflicted will still be 462 though. Edit: One more I just found. The item 'Block of Honey' degrades even when not equipped. |
Another bug:
Steam cloud sync works great for syncing individual saves TO the cloud. Unfortunately, you can't get saves FROM the cloud. I installed the game on a desktop, made all sorts of saves, clicked button to sync TO the cloud, all well and good. Then I installed on laptop, started game, NO saves were avail. There's NO button to pull saves out of cloud. Cloud free space (the 100 megs) properly shows that MB been used for the saves in both desktop and laptop. I've restarted steam and game many times to see if it needed restart. |
Tooltip damage for units like the Inquisitor, which do extra damage to Undead/Demons, don't accurately reflect that extra damage. You end up doing considerably more damage than it indicates.
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ADDITIONAL NOTE: Berserker is also lacking an entry in skills.lua, and seems to be triggering far more often than it should be. Same goes for Shield of Rage (this one always triggers if any of my units has an adverse effect). |
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Taor the rebel on the second island is supposed to give you an amulet when you help him but you won't get it if you don't accept it on the first dialog option.
There are alot of translation error that need to be corrected because it's really hard to enjoy the storyline with such poor dialog. Inconsistency with Christas ability, when you speak to her she mentions she can perform Right of Grief but the dialog option to use the ability says Hand of Sorrow |
when i click 3rd conversation option with valkyrie guidra, game crashes
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And yeah, I noticed that in the Valkryie conversation too. We almost need another thread for cosmetic translation issues... I don't want to distract them from game-altering bugs that need fixed but I agree it would be better if the translation were polished! |
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Also, Shield of Rage and Berserker are also missing in skills.lua, and uh... they're acting a bit wonky. I'll let you know after a bit more tinkering. |
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To answer you previous questions camelotcrusader I need to get home and reply later. |
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The Guardian award tooltip claims that it gives +X% Resistance to all types of damage, but it doesn't apply to both Cold and Astral resistance. Not sure if the description is wrong, or it's not being applied correctly.
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@kangax, thanks, I've added it.
@nublets that's good to know. I'm not sure exactly how I would list a bug, though. Seems like more a warning - read the dialog carefully with that guy so you get the reward you want. @Bhuric good catch, I'll add that one. @QNk your info is great, and also depressing at the same time. So many bugs... |
and im not sure if its a bug or not. i cant advance in game after meeting first valkyrie. people say you must talk with her or enter the cave below her and kill big spider in it. but nothing happens either talking with her or entering cave. there isnt anything in the cave but people say there is a big spider. maybe it can be a bug for me and some other people or i couldnt find the right solution. anyway. thanks for adding conversation bug
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I don't think thats a bug. You should of met the first valkyrie(Christa) on the second island, Vestlig. The second valkyrie joins you on Fastland, and only when you have the first 2 valkyries will the third valkrie join.
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example: The spell base damage is 165 and increased by 45% for each rune, up to a maximum of 4 (this is at level 2 Rune magic). 165+(74.25*4)= 462 as i mentioned in last post. This is how much damage the spell should and does inflict. but the tooltip reports 610 damage 165+(74.25*6) which would be using all 6 of my units runes. As for my Block of Honey, I tried dismissing all my viking units(I don't use bears) and using some pirates and neutrals and it still degraded while unequipped. |
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Added the -dev line after .exe" but when the crash appens, the game go to desktop and no error message is shown. What version do you have? |
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Once you start spending crystals for spells, it will stop counting. When you have collected more than the crystals spent without using them, it continues counting. Sure, I guess, that's not the way it is supposed to be. I think, it was not mentioned so far, that you cannot scroll your items in castles. When I wanted to sell some eggs in Fastland, the arrows are greyed out, so you have to put them in your inventory in the top left spot to sell them. |
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Ice Dragon - Killing a unit does not give a charge for the ability "call minion".
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