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Mysticpuma 10-13-2012 02:13 PM

Request for removal of the Propeller 'flicker' effect before final patch....please!
 
Well it certainly plays nice and smooth with RC2.

I do have issues though with what other players have pointed out.

Propeller 'flicker' effects. It looks awful, is really distracting and it makes mine look like the propeller is stuttering. Just looks all around wrong!

Check out this video at 4m 59 seconds. The only reason you see 'anything' of the prop. is because of the camera shutter. The prop. should be almost invisible at all times (unless stopping the engine!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsqjCbsQ74U

Please remove the flicker effect

zapatista 10-13-2012 04:33 PM

yes it is a very important issue, but from past experience threads like this will be completely ignored by the dev's :(

your only hope, our only hope, is for it to be reported in:
a) the patch/RC bug report thread (which doesnt even exist for the last RC2)
b) the sticky post in this forum titled " 1C Team Questions and Requests (open)", which is closed right now and might only be re-opened briefly for 1 or 2 days prior to the next RC
c) the other forum with the bug feedback threads where people can vote on their importance (but hasnt been read by luthier and Co for nearly a yr i believe)

so your best chance is option b) above, so when you see the thread reopen (" 1C Team Questions and Requests (open)") , be ready to pounce with whatever last bug requests you might want to get in, and dont miss the last boat, it might well be our last chance to resolve it :)

RedToo 10-13-2012 04:48 PM

Couldn't agree more about the propeller flicker, looks awful and is just plain wrong.

RedToo.

Al Capwn 10-13-2012 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedToo (Post 469145)
Couldn't agree more about the propeller flicker, looks awful and is just plain wrong.

RedToo.

+1

macro 10-13-2012 06:23 PM

Orf with his head!!!

No. Seriously devs. Please get rid.

mcFly 10-13-2012 06:24 PM

I can remember that in early versions no propeller had been visible. Imho a good choice to make it visible. Can't remember it is so annoying, have to pay attention next time i'm on.
But the sound of the propeller doesn't work properly, isn't audible till the rmp are high enough.

raaaid 10-13-2012 06:28 PM

i want it to stay so there are some wonderwoman view servers

Basha 10-13-2012 06:33 PM

Its gotta go PLEASE ! devs

Friendly_flyer 10-13-2012 06:59 PM

They did listen to the Hurricane weight issue, so why not this?

justme262 10-14-2012 07:08 AM

The vid you linked shows more flicker than the game?! Which contradicts what you said...

You seem to over simplify the problem.

On my system the prop is completely invisible at cruising RPM when flying into the sun and when flying away from the sun the yellow tips especially can be seen. But I can only see the prop flicker when the sun is directly behind me. As in a dive with the sun behind me.

This is the best it has looked to me. I was just trying the new patch... I took off flying into the orange morning sun and I could not see the prop at all. Nothing! Not even the faintest hint of a flicker. And it surprised me to see this thread saying flicker is too much !?

There seems to be too many variables , the angle of the sun the amount of light, the rpm, graphics card , frame rate, V sync on/off...

I'm just not seeing what you are seeing.

*Buzzsaw* 10-14-2012 08:58 AM

Salute

Yes, get rid of this. I have talked to quite a number of WWII fighter pilots, and none mention any thing about prop flicker being noticeable.

zapatista 10-14-2012 10:22 AM

dont rely on the developers to go reading obscure forum threads looking for new things to do (even in their own forum) , our only hope is if this issue is raised multiple times in the bug report threads they make themselves (and that thread is closed now, so we cant post in it)

so be ready to pounce once the thread reopens :)

this is a previous discussion thread on the same topic, and with the same general conclusion (that the spinning prop during normal flight conditions should not really be visible) http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=32234

Sailor Malan 10-14-2012 11:57 PM

Have alook at this film lots of flicker from props. external views mainly but still enoungh to see effect look at about 14 min You cannot compare a cessna and a spitfire /109 props etc.

http://youtu.be/caJtGXMdxGM

http://vimeo.com/7743200

5./JG27.Farber 10-15-2012 12:31 AM

I support this! - who doesnt?

ElAurens 10-15-2012 01:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sailor Malan (Post 469536)
Have alook at this film lots of flicker from props. external views mainly but still enoung to see effect look at about 14 min You cannot compare a cessna and a spitfire /109 props etc.

http://youtu.be/caJtGXMdxGM

http://vimeo.com/7743200

Old films in no way look like a prop in real life. What you are seeing is an effect caused by the camera shutter. Some of the mods have this cheap cinematic effect, but it has no place in a simulator.

None.

Sailor Malan 10-15-2012 01:17 AM

Here is a modern film from the cockpit video. I am a real pilot in real life so not trying to say the effect sux but on the big props painted black you do see them while you fly

http://youtu.be/dzs0msemphk

even better video

http://youtu.be/Wd5cg77mA48

DC338 10-15-2012 03:31 AM

It's not reflective of real life. Get rid of it.

GOZR 10-15-2012 03:41 AM

+1

SQB 10-15-2012 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sailor Malan (Post 469544)
Here is a modern film from the cockpit video. I am a real pilot in real life so not trying to say the effect sux but on the big props painted black you do see them while you fly

http://youtu.be/dzs0msemphk

even better video

http://youtu.be/Wd5cg77mA48

All cameras use shutters, and are therefore operating in a different way to the human eye. This is one point where film evidence does not aid an argument, which is a real problem as the majority of visual problems are solved through images and film. While your second video in that post is very close to real life, shutter effects are still very visible. For the record, unless they eye is moved the propeller should appear to be invisible, when your eye moves from A -> B your brain takes the image your eye sees when it reaches B and replaces your memory of the transition with that image, this is why if you look at a ticking clock it often seems like the second hand takes a long time to keep ticking. It's also why rotor blades and fans appear frozen when you look towards them.

David198502 10-15-2012 10:42 AM

yeah definitely get rid of this!its way overpronounced...

Ailantd 10-15-2012 06:32 PM

No video, ancient or modern, can be used to probe or disprobe this. Cameras are not eyes at all. This can only be solved by real pilots in real prop aircrafts testing how it looks ( or not ) flying in different angles from the sun light. If we have not that reviews, anything you say here based on videos without that real pilot feedback is nonsense.
Even the fact real WWII pilots have not made mention about it ( without asking it ) means nothing. They don´t talk about their planes not being pink, and that not means that the planes were pink.

priller26 10-15-2012 10:14 PM

Prop flicker also causes horizontal tearing to the gun area AND also the screen itself, change altitude quickly from water to sky, you will see it, was never there before, and my video card didn't simply catch a cold. PLEASE FIX IT!

KG26_Alpha 10-15-2012 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mysticpuma (Post 469107)
Well it certainly plays nice and smooth with RC2.

I do have issues though with what other players have pointed out.

Propeller 'flicker' effects. It looks awful, is really distracting and it makes mine look like the propeller is stuttering. Just looks all around wrong!

Check out this video at 4m 59 seconds. The only reason you see 'anything' of the prop. is because of the camera shutter. The prop. should be almost invisible at all times (unless stopping the engine!)



Please remove the flicker effect

You missed the boat, the thread was stickied for over a year.

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpos...&postcount=227

From.......

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=28341

If you wish to report a bug use the bug thread please.

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=34743
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