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Pylon racing mission by Naryv
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Check out included jpeg image for correct flight path. Mission script will calculate score/penalties and display it in the info window.
Pylon 3d model was made by Rasim Mullahmetov - a sukhoi.ru community member. No one of the dev team members was hurt in the process )) The mission is not as easy as it may seem. Please share videos of successful flights. EDIT Updated the archive with 4 more missions and improved script. Watch for mission updates in this thread http://www.sukhoi.ru/forum/showthread.php?t=77454 Jpegs with instructions and sample recorded .trk tracks are included in the archives. Can you beat this guy's time? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgqQG...ature=youtu.be |
Thanks! will be fun
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ha ha ha :) Thanks for sharing Ataros. S! |
Now more tracks and MP! Amazing!!!
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I did a search on youtube and found a video of someone running your race track. I don't think he or she ran your course corrently. Anyways it is a good course.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1J3v6PtqwKU |
Thanks for video. Good find.
A modified mission with added spawn points will be added to one of Repka servers. Check it out online. PS. More missions coming in this sukhoi.ru thread http://www.sukhoi.ru/forum/showthread.php?t=77454 |
Total noob here. Were do you extract the file to.
Steam > steamapps ,common , Il2 but thats not working for me so far |
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Thank you Ataros! The Su 26 is a total hoot to fly; I'm looking forward to try the pylons course out
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3 more missions http://www.sukhoi.ru/forum/showthrea...=1#post1911686
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Files in the first post now include 5 improved missions.
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Best time on abu dhabi 1:16:14. Took many pylon hits and drowned Su-26s to get there. Impressively difficult this Red Bull Air Race. Especially the knife edge gates always collecting penalty seconds on those.
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Hi guys!!
Thank you for those funny races!! I love them!! This is my performance in Abu Dhabi ;) http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/...7DB550D0A9685/ P.S: Sometimes I don't understand why the script does not start, do you know which can be the problem? |
Sometimes it does not detect that you passed through the gate. It mainly happens on start gate but it can also happen elsewhere but those cases are rare.
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Sorry, I can not help with the script. |
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If I don't remember wrong the start gate should have a max speed limit... if confirmed by redbull rules, can it be implemented?
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About maximum speed limit when passing the starting gate will ask for Sukhoi. I think you have to have more people who know the detailed rules of racing RB. |
I remember good... and I found it online:
-Exceeding the maximum entry speed A 2-second penalty is incurred when a pilot exceeds the maximum entry speed of 370 km/h through the start gate (between 371-380 km/h). here we can find all the rules:http://www.redbullairrace.com/cs/Sat...21238614010221 |
Also the start gate for 2nd lap should not be level from what i have seen of Abu Dhabi 2008 they seemed to fly through it with high bank angle. If this could be done I would be able to achieve slightly better time.
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San Diego video by Ded-86
http://youtu.be/O9-29V6ByUs Adu Dhabi result by aeros http://www.sukhoi.ru/forum/attachmen...4&d=1352552223 |
http://s10.postimage.org/46s8vcpeh/s...110_164724.jpg
In the second pass the starting gate - roll angle can be anything. |
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Well, without bank angle restrictions at start gate in the second pass time is lower ;)
http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/55...E40B1954F94F0/ |
Hello. I am the author of these cards, and I would like to know your suggestions for improving these and subsequent maps. Soon be ready 2 more cards RB Istambul 2007 and RB New York, 2010. Now while edited old. All maps will be added to the speed limit in the starting gate. If you would be interested, after editing, I can put all 6 cards in this thread.
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The main issue that has to be corrected is the script, sometimes it does not take in account some gate passages and, if it happens, all the track will be compromised... I hope it will be possible to fix it... About the max speed at start gate will be like real life(370kmh) or lower since the SU26 is slower? A "in flight" start in front of the start gate can be also a good solution, so to oblige all the pilots to go straight and start the race immediately, in this way everyone will have most likely the same speed at start gate. Another solution, if you don't like the "in flight" start is a time limit with countdown before the start where, if you pass the starting gate before the end nothing happens but if you loose time to climb and you pass the start gate after the end of the count down you will be penalized with 2 or more seconds... Let me know what do you think. Waiting for all 6 tracks, cya |
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I'm working on the problem of the passage of the gates on all the maps. Trails were made only for the Su-26 and the distances were calculated only for him based on an average speed of 260 km \ h. Su-26 is in fact not MXR Technologies MX2 and Zivko Edge 540, and by this limitation in the starting gate will be 310 km \ h as the maximum rate of the Su-26 in the horizon. At a speed of 311 km \ h disqualification. Will start from the runway, and before the start gate plane accelerated to nearly 280 km \ h and little sense to gain greater height to disperse no.
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Hello.
Slalom for doing video to get familiar with the track. In the future, make a video for each track, but it will take time. P.S. Sorry for my English, translated by google translator San Diego http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9-29V6ByUs |
MXS faster than the Su-26 only in a horizontal flight. Average speed maneuvering would be about the same. Take the starting gate at 370 km / h, they can both, like the rest of the participating aircraft. I see no point in reducing the initial rate compared to the original.
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Starting a race with speed near 370km/h is really difficult and challenging, why limiting it? |
ops forgot to post my last time in Abu Dhabi ;)
http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/...BC2950956A784/ Happy that no max speed limit is present at start gate.. otherwise I has 2 second of penalty... :-P |
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http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/55...020BC5D9CDA45/ |
Well, to be dispersed on the Su-26 to at least 350 km \ h have to fall from a height of 700 m, and where you see that in the race to do so? And if you zoom in to the original, and then the minimum height on the track to do in the 10 meters Half of the pylon. http://www.sergeyrakhmanin.com/docs/id55.html http://www.redbullairrace.com/cs/Sat...AirRaceWrapper I also prefer the rules in life, but considering that the plane will MXR Technologies MX2 or Zivko Edge 540. I'm online Sergei Rakhmanin asked several questions about the height of the approach to the starting gate and speed. Let's wait for it to answer.
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A disqualification if more than 310km/h for my point of view is too limiting, a 2 sec penalty would be better and, like in real life, you should have space enough to accelerate to max horizontal speed, the actual maps do not have this space in front of start gate... |
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But... it is possible to stay below 1'09 with respect of max 310km/h at start gate ;)http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/...0828DCF5EA7C3/ |
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I'll go lower than 1.08. |
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Interesting and challenging this redbull race... we started from 1'14 and now we are -7" faster!! where is the limit?? |
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That's what said Rakhmanin: Translation: Hello, Andrew The answer to your questions. 1. Are there any limits on the maximum height of the approach to the starting gate, or you can cool to dive in front of them for a set speed? Of maximum speed and height gate is known, and that's about the height of the approach them not. There is a limit on the speed of 200 knots 2. About the speed with which the participants are usually suited to the starting gate? Usually all try to be at the gate at the maximum authorized speed ie a little less than 200, because any excess-disqualification. 3. What should be the minimum height for highway driving disqualification? Height is measured by color bars on the pylons. Lower than the first (from the ground) - disqualification 4. It always takes into account the angle of passage in the starting gate before the start of the second round, or it is discussed at every stage in person? Can be entered into the gate at any angle without restrictions, the main thing is not to take down the pylon. 5. What is the maximum speed in the horizon in your aircraft MHS-R at up to 1000 m? approximately 220 knots (just over 400 km / h) ----------------------- It follows that if we take the natural rules and apply to the Su-26, the maximum speed limit on the Su-26 to be 270 km. That is, the speed of the gate must be lower than the maximum speed in the horizon to 10% in the maximum speed of drying in the horizon 310, means a limit of 300 km \ h is quite acceptable. And to limit the minimum height of 10 meters, it is half the pylon below the second band on the pylon. At the moment, all the maps is 6 meters. |
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Nice! I like the idea of a minimum height of 10m ;) So when we will have new tracks with new triggers? |
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I attached official RB regulations file. In it on page 18 there is described correct aircraft position through each gate.
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The lower limit will decrease, because in the game the lower edge of the band Pylon 8 meters.
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Changed the maps under the new settings and two new maps RB Lausitz, RB New York http://www.sukhoi.ru/forum/showthrea...=1#post1931622
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I tried the new track of abu dhabi but it has the same problem as before... sometimes it does not recognize when you pass a gate...
Any solution? |
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max speed at start gate should be 310 or 300?? at 304 it gives already the disqualification... in this way there is no margin, while we should have a penalty of 2 seconds if you pass within 10km/h from max speed... Ciao |
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(precise piloting should be requested to respect the red bull air race rules and not for hoping that each gate is taken in account...) Furthermore I think that a disqualification for an error of 0.1km/h is too limiting, is like having a disqualification if you pass above 20.1m... as I said there should be a margin like in real races with a 2 second penalty form 300.1 to 310km/h and a disqualification above 310km/h... if you talk of: Quote:
To conclude another thing to consider is that the anemometer is not giving the same speed that is taken in account from triggers, if you pass at 300IAS you will be disqualified so, to solve the problem, I think that the reference should be 300IAS from anemometer as max speed and speed restrictions triggers should be corrected so to have this error/difference in account... Ciao |
I once again will check a gate.
In Red Bull Air Race to control the speed there are laser sensors and determine the speed of up to thousandths, and we have only to two decimal places, and there is no penalty in the rules for speed, only a disqualification. http://funportal.info/smiles/smile278.gif In these race skill not only fly, but also correctly calculation for real and indicated airspeed. On accurate flying and correct calculation speed depends race results. No calculations obtained arcade. Or want to get an arcade ? :( |
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Exceeding the maximum entry speed: A 2-second penalty is incurred when a pilot exceeds the maximum entry speed of 370 km/h through the start gate (between 371-380 km/h). (for this game we should read: A 2-second penalty is incurred when a pilot exceeds the maximum entry speed of 300 km/h through the start gate (between 301-310 km/h) this means that only above 310 there should be a disqualification! In those tracks is not like this and it should be if you want to make it like real... regarding speed in real life at sea level IAS=TAS=GS (i'm not considering GS since there is no wind in game) so if you read 300km/h on anemometer you should have 300km/h also at gate speed check... so is not arcade but realistic |
Rechecked all the cards flew at each of approximately 9 times, and no failure was. Maybe in the game crashing ?
At the expense of fines for speed, it is necessary to write software script. I did not write the script, and just make maps based on a ready script. Today written by a man who can do it. We'll wait for him to speak. |
Corrected all the cards RB Abudabi, RB Interlaken, RB Istambul, RB San Diego, RB Windsor Ontario, RB Lausitz, RB New-York under the new parameters. Now speeding in the starting gate from 300 to 310 km \ h penalized two seconds, and over 310 disqualification. Added 2 new maps RB Porto and RB Barcelona.
Download map here - http://www.sukhoi.ru/forum/showthrea...=1#post1948565 To avoid glitches, the previous version of the maps is desirable to remove ! |
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