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macro 08-09-2012 02:10 PM

The spit mk 1 (2 stage prop) not a joke
 
spit mk1 2 stage prop is the plane to fly now

for take off, warm rad temp to 60C then push the throttle and mixtue to 100% together, the engine stutters then spins up.

full fine pitch in climb or when flying slow (can even use fine when high up climbing, to catch the old tactic of the 109 slow but steep climb, just before they roll over stalling) also use fine when turning hard, especially when low. dont be afraid to run extended times at 3000rpm, just watch the temps when you get higher up.

full course pitch when diving, picks up speed like a bat out hell, and keeps it for a while, which means you can chase 109's again.

I not got the mixture quite right yet, however it is modeled the correct way, which means full forward for rich. it comes back down when you throttle back (like the hurri) so when dogfighting low remember to push it forward if you throttle back when throttleing back up.

This plane is a match for the 109 if You practice the 2 stage prop

The dh5-20 is a good plane also


After 3 days flying everyone who i told this to now flies the mk1
happy flying!

skouras 08-09-2012 05:57 PM

thanks for the info
i didn't know that the mixture return back when throttle back like the hurri
it is supposed to work like that or what
any info about it is welcome..

CaptainDoggles 08-09-2012 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skouras (Post 453317)
thanks for the info
i didn't know that the mixture return back when throttle back like the hurri
it is supposed to work like that or what
any info about it is welcome..

Yep, it's supposed to work like that. IIRC the throttle lever physically prevents the mixture lever from passing by it.

FS~looksharp 08-09-2012 06:05 PM

pretty sure you have the mixture the wrong war round....

forward (away from pilot) is lean

back ( toward pilot) is ritch

http://spitfiresite.com/wp-content/u...7/03it_001.jpg

5./JG27.Farber 08-09-2012 06:24 PM

So you guys did have decent planes after all! :-P

SiThSpAwN 08-09-2012 06:31 PM

Which makes sense I think as most Spit manuals I have see say mixture to rich for start up. I think :)

JTDawg 08-09-2012 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 5./JG27.Farber (Post 453325)
So you guys did have decent planes after all! :-P

Diamonds in the ruff, but yes who would have known (they must have forgotten to pork these 2 ) even though they are a bit slow compared to what they should be, less over heating etc etc

JTDawg 08-09-2012 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FS~looksharp (Post 453320)
pretty sure you have the mixture the wrong war round....

forward (away from pilot) is lean

back ( toward pilot) is ritch

http://spitfiresite.com/wp-content/u...7/03it_001.jpg

Full rich is foreward on these plane

macro 08-09-2012 06:35 PM

it has to be pushed forward in the game, i dont know if this is modelled now according to picture above it doesnt look like it. :confused:

and yes farber it feels good to be able to compete again online. :cool:

please put them in SOW please please please

oh and the dh5-20 ;)

skouras 08-09-2012 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FS~looksharp (Post 453320)
pretty sure you have the mixture the wrong war round....

forward (away from pilot) is lean

back ( toward pilot) is ritch

http://spitfiresite.com/wp-content/u...7/03it_001.jpg

exactly
so right now in game we have it reversed with the latest beta..

JTDawg 08-09-2012 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skouras (Post 453337)
exactly
so right now in game we have it reversed with the latest beta..

Yep but if we ask to fix well you know where that lead to non starting rotols an spits The 71st has been testing these 2 planes for the last 3 days with great results ! Last night we told our friends 501 401 64 ATAG ETC. With good results Catch us on ts an we can walk ya through it, an a couple other things Now bring the fight back to jerry !! your odds have changed. 22,000 or more on the deck whatever ! team work an wingman now pay off !!! not saying if you make a mistake you won't die, but you can put them in the drink almost everytime when working your wingman right BTW 71_AH_Macro found these to little gems SALUTE MY FRIEND

skouras 08-09-2012 07:21 PM

salute..:rolleyes:

senseispcc 08-09-2012 07:34 PM

.
The Spitfire MKI in the game can only get to 25500 ft and the MKIIa to 27700 ft this is not very much more but!

IvanK 08-09-2012 10:48 PM

Mixture mechanisation with regards the Throttle mixture interlink (in the Spits) was fixed in this patch. So its correct that pulling the the throttle back will also pull the mixture lever back as well. Back should be AUTO RICH, Forward should be AUTO LEAN.

Other than Max range flying there really should be any reason why you would want to to be in AUTO LEAN.

This is still being looked at by the DEVS.

EDIT: Yes Typo in my positions corrected in the Post and underlined.

bw_wolverine 08-09-2012 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FS~looksharp (Post 453320)
pretty sure you have the mixture the wrong war round....

forward (away from pilot) is lean

back ( toward pilot) is ritch

http://spitfiresite.com/wp-content/u...7/03it_001.jpg

Yes, this is what understood to be the case as well. It seems like the Mk Ia and Mk IIa were adjusted to this, but the I was not.

CWMV 08-10-2012 02:28 AM

Well good maybe they can fix the 109 now.

Osprey 08-10-2012 06:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 5./JG27.Farber (Post 453325)
So you guys did have decent planes after all! :-P

Better planes. I've tried out the Hurricane DH5-20 and the Spitfire I, both out perform the other types, mainly in climb rate but they also appear to hold energy better. That said the pre-patch Spitfire II was an excellent match for the 109 but this Spitfire I is not quite so good. Stands on it's tail better though.

Anyway, please add them to the bases for Sunday, you're going to get much more of a fight with these :)

Osprey 08-10-2012 06:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by senseispcc (Post 453351)
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The Spitfire MKI in the game can only get to 25500 ft and the MKIIa to 27700 ft this is not very much more but!

Not with the new patch. The IIa was struggling for 20kft, the Hurricane even lower.

Quote:

Originally Posted by CWMV (Post 453431)
Well good maybe they can fix the 109 now.

The Spitfire is not 'fixed', it is still undermodelled, same with the Hurricane. What this gives is a better chance vs 109's

Osprey 08-10-2012 06:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IvanK (Post 453392)
Mixture mechanisation with regards the Throttle mixture interlink (in the Spits) was fixed in this patch. So its correct that pulling the the throttle back will also pull the mixture lever back as well. Back should be AUTO RICH, Forward should be AUTO LEAN.

Other than Max range flying there really should be any reason why you would want to to be in AUTO LEAN.

This is still being looked at by the DEVS.

EDIT: Yes Typo in my positions corrected in the Post and underlined.

AUTO LEAN is required in order to apply full throttle, otherwise the engine clonks and splutters. That is a bug of course.

IvanK 08-10-2012 10:37 AM

Yes agreed and also with the devs.

jimbop 08-10-2012 12:09 PM

Good form macro. Just took one up and had fun with three 109s and a 110 on the deck near Hawkinge (of course!) If you vary between cruise/dive and steep climb the two-stage is quite usable.

Oh, and mixture forward = go faster. That is the extent of my technical prowess.

JTDawg 08-10-2012 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbop (Post 453517)
Good form macro. Just took one up and had fun with three 109s and a 110 on the deck near Hawkinge (of course!) If yoy vary between cruise/dive and steep climb the two-stage is quite usable.

Oh, and mixture forward = go faster. That is the extent of my technical prowess.

LMAO, Someone like me that understands the finer points of the spit 1 ,P.S. Trying to keep this post going for guys to try


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