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badfinger 07-17-2012 02:14 PM

What's going on?
 
It sure is quiet, here. Hardly any new questions, polls, whines, or rants. No new screenshots or movies, no bug reports. Only two active threads.

I don't know if this is positive or negative.

binky9

Icebear 07-17-2012 02:40 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dzs1K3caXJk

SiThSpAwN 07-17-2012 02:41 PM

Everybody is outside working on their tan...

Ataros 07-17-2012 02:42 PM

Silent strike till the COOPs issue is not ignored )

Allons! 07-17-2012 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by binky9 (Post 445817)
It sure is quiet, here.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1iBbBL1040&feature=fvst


:grin:

David Hayward 07-17-2012 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ataros (Post 445826)
Silent strike till the COOPs issue is not ignored )

A silent strike is an excellent idea!

senseispcc 07-17-2012 03:43 PM

.
Everyone is on vacation.

pstyle 07-17-2012 03:54 PM

haters got too burned to go on hating
lovers got to hot to go on loving
everybody else got bored of waiting

the Dutchman 07-17-2012 03:59 PM

WTF am i doing here???:confused:

ATAG_Snapper 07-17-2012 04:02 PM

The Pilots' Lounge is always lively!

philip.ed 07-17-2012 04:28 PM

The honest answer is that interest in this sim is dying, and it may take a Herculean effort to restore a lot of the faith which has been lost.

SiThSpAwN 07-17-2012 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by philip.ed (Post 445855)
The honest answer is that interest in this sim is dying, and it may take a Herculean effort to restore a lot of the faith which has been lost.

Naw, just a good official patch after all this beta.

JG52Krupi 07-17-2012 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SiThSpAwN (Post 445858)
Naw, just a VERY good official patch after all this beta.

Fixed :P

;)

SiThSpAwN 07-17-2012 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JG52Krupi (Post 445861)
Fixed :P

;)

Well it was implied with saying after all the betas :) But yes, the goal would be a VERY good official patch, I am sure the dev team would agree :)

kristorf 07-17-2012 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by binky9 (Post 445817)
It sure is quiet, here. Hardly any new questions, polls, whines, or rants. No new screenshots or movies, no bug reports. Only two active threads.

I don't know if this is positive or negative.

binky9

Don't go there mate, causes all sort of sh!t

senseispcc 07-17-2012 05:25 PM

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Everyone is on vacation in a very far and sunny country not in europe! Where it is rainning all the time and everyone is very sad. Then everyone is folowing the Olimpic games and still nothing shall be done but after all this in septembre when the kids are back at scholl all shall be fine. Where there is hope there is life.

David Hayward 07-17-2012 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by philip.ed (Post 445855)
The honest answer is that interest in this sim is dying, and it may take a Herculean effort to restore a lot of the faith which has been lost.

At least you're staying upbeat about it...

JG52Uther 07-17-2012 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by binky9 (Post 445817)
It sure is quiet, here. Hardly any new questions, polls, whines, or rants. No new screenshots or movies, no bug reports. Only two active threads.

I don't know if this is positive or negative.

binky9

Most people I know are outside enjoying the weather, not sitting in front of a computer.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...Uther/jeep.jpg

PotNoodles 07-17-2012 07:09 PM

So everyone goes on vacation at the same time now? No, it's plain and simple why nobody's posting, it's because people have ran out of things to say. We have talked about everything there is to talk about. We have seen people's videos, pics and even talked about how sunny it is outside. I myself am just waiting for the game to be fixed so that I can enjoy playing it and until then there isn't a great deal to say now.

Tigertooo 07-17-2012 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by binky9 (Post 445817)
It sure is quiet, here.
binky9

So you don't have any clue why it's quiet m8? You must be even more naive then i am ;)

KG26_Alpha 07-17-2012 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ataros (Post 445826)
Silent strike till the COOPs issue is not ignored )

Bingo !!

.

furbs 07-17-2012 09:09 PM

Whats going on?

Nothing.

Tavingon 07-17-2012 09:19 PM

Playing the patience game.. best not to panic seems everything IS going smoothly at the moment they just have a few cardboard boxes to unpack and all will be well :)

6BL Bird-Dog 07-17-2012 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ataros (Post 445826)
Silent strike till the COOPs issue is not ignored )

I will second that Atros, but I have a feeling it wont fit in with whatever the future plans are for the game,unfortunately.

Feathered_IV 07-17-2012 09:50 PM

Maybe there were sone bannings among the you-know-who group. :P

Icebear 07-17-2012 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Feathered_IV (Post 445954)
Maybe there were sone bannings among the you-know-who group. :P

Maybe, but all the pointless bullsh!t polls and blasphemous threads were not closed since they moved to Paraguay, or was it Argentina? Who knows.... ;)

kyletiernan 07-17-2012 10:47 PM

1c's computer got a virus, they are all out looking at getting a new one.

catito14 07-17-2012 11:09 PM

B6 is on holidays, i think this friday we will have news.

S!

McFeckit 07-18-2012 12:00 AM

This is the end...
My faithfull friends.....THE END.

mazex 07-18-2012 01:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by McFeckit (Post 445975)
This is the end...
My faithfull friends.....THE END.

Or "Der Untergang" as we WWII nerds prefer to call it... I can see Bruno Gantz "fake texted" to shout stuff like:

"Can everyone who was not involved in losing the source code during the move to our new office leave the room now!"

"All that don't work on the patch - leave the room now!"

Feathered_IV 07-18-2012 01:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mazex (Post 445982)

"Can everyone who was not involved in losing the source code during the move to our new office leave the room now!"

OMG don't even say it out loud!

Robert 07-18-2012 02:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Feathered_IV (Post 445986)
OMG don't even say it out loud!



Considering 1C/Maddox's history with 'stolen' patches with the old IL2 franchise I hope they are careful. Heck, wasn't there even a story not long before CoD's release where Oleg's home PC was infiltrated where someone tried to get CoD's source code?

Feathered_IV 07-18-2012 04:27 AM

Yeah, that was before release however. Nobody would go out of their way to pinch it now I reckon. Chances of somebody leaving it in the mens room though...

tintifaxl 07-18-2012 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert (Post 445990)
Considering 1C/Maddox's history with 'stolen' patches with the old IL2 franchise I hope they are careful. Heck, wasn't there even a story not long before CoD's release where Oleg's home PC was infiltrated where someone tried to get CoD's source code?

Many stories floated around during the development of CloD.

yobnaf 07-18-2012 08:03 AM

We should use this quiet times to thank the developers for their efforts and the patches for the best flight sim ever.
http://smileyshack.files.wordpress.c...g_100-1081.gif

Trumper 07-18-2012 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JG52Uther (Post 445893)
Most people I know are outside enjoying the weather, not sitting in front of a computer.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...Uther/jeep.jpg

:grin:You,re sitting outside in the pouring rain YIKES :)

TonyD 07-18-2012 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trumper (Post 446018)
:grin:You,re sitting outside in the pouring rain YIKES :)

Or in my case, the freezing cold!

JG5_emil 07-18-2012 08:17 AM

Playing sims/games that work and are fun :)

Ataros 07-18-2012 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JG52Uther (Post 445893)
Most people I know are outside enjoying the weather, not sitting in front of a computer.

RC aerobatics looks like a good outdoor activity for a change.

http://vimeo.com/39776003

These Australian guys make probably the lightest RC planes in the world.

Aer9o 07-18-2012 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ataros (Post 446047)
RC aerobatics looks like a good outdoor activity for a change.

http://vimeo.com/39776003

These Australian guys make probably the lightest RC planes in the world.

yes ...in which country?..not here in UK for sure!

JG52Krupi 07-18-2012 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aer9o (Post 446061)
yes ...in which country?..not here in UK for sure!

Yes we do but the water ingress removes the "lightest" part ;)

Wolf_Rider 07-18-2012 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ataros (Post 445826)
Silent strike till the COOPs issue is not ignored )

At least the whinging and snide developer disparages have stopped

Trumper 07-18-2012 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wolf_Rider (Post 446074)
At least the whinging and snide developer disparages have stopped

I guess thats healthy then,everyone has left the building complete lack of interest

Ataros 07-18-2012 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aer9o (Post 446061)
yes ...in which country?..not here in UK for sure!

It seems you can do some boring powerless flying there at least :) http://vimeo.com/44470432

Icebear 07-18-2012 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wolf_Rider (Post 446074)
At least the whinging and snide developer disparages have stopped

"All intelligent thoughts have already been thought; what is necessary is only to try to think them again."

Johann Wolfgang von Goethe (1749-1832)

Plt Off JRB Meaker 07-18-2012 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by binky9 (Post 445817)
It sure is quiet, here. Hardly any new questions, polls, whines, or rants. No new screenshots or movies, no bug reports. Only two active threads.

I don't know if this is positive or negative.

binky9

....Erm,this!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sJ05t16IwE

kristorf 07-18-2012 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Plt Off JRB Meaker (Post 446111)

Hits it on the nail on the head at the moment mate.

JG52Krupi 07-18-2012 04:36 PM

Does anyone else find the video showing a "hollywood" flatlining very ironic and fitting for all the drama queens in here LOL!

http://kellyjaye.patriotactionnetwor...028house29.jpg

Chivas 07-18-2012 05:22 PM

It definitely makes the waiting more calming. The WarThunder SimHq forums are very quite, everyone who's interested in the sim must be beta testing and under a NDA as there is very little praising or whinging happening there. ;) I had hopes for that sim, but the latest video still shows the BOB map only incompassing the Manston/Folkstone area. Its quite useless for not much more than airstart furballs.

PotNoodles 07-18-2012 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Plt Off JRB Meaker (Post 446111)

What is there to talk about? Lots of people complained about the last patch and and what it did to the tree Lod etc, but in 3 weeks we have had no response to people's concerns. I think everyone is waiting for an update on the situation before saying anything else, but maybe they really have become fed up of the whole situation because I know I have. I don't think everyone has a vacation at the same time so that isn't the reason for it been dead in here, and I don't think it's anything to do with the sunshine because many people are playing other games.

Chivas 07-18-2012 06:23 PM

How dead the forums are now has little if any effect on the future of COD, If the game engine is finished and working, everything will start fresh from that point.

philip.ed 07-18-2012 07:12 PM

Chivas you're right to an extent. But the lack of interest highlights that people have moved on from CloD and, clearly, haven't seen much reason to come back.
Perhaps positive change will bring them back, but if they can live without the game they may see no need to go through further trouble to squeeze the most out of it. I think that's the bottom line: if they are happy not playing it, they may see no reason to go back; especially if the only real change manifests as the next sequel. BoB lovers still aren't happy.

As an offliner it will take a miracle to make me want to upgrade to play this game as much as I am playing BoB2 right now.

It sounds depressing, but it's the truth. I personally don't really care any more either. I just come here to see if there is anything new as I want this game to succeed.

Just release the blasted SDK and let the community sort this game out.

SlipBall 07-18-2012 07:18 PM

Speaking only for myself here, I have less time for the forum, because I am flying Clod more often.

Whiski 07-18-2012 07:43 PM

Other games have taken my prime time...hell...I haven't even logged into the game for over 3 to 4 weeks...and probably won't until it is fixed proper.

But, to take my time up, I have DCS CA (new release), BF3 off and on, Mechwarrior online will be out soon as well (looking forward to that as I played it many years ago and enjoyed it a lot). Mostly just chillin out at home other than that and enjoying my holidays.

David Hayward 07-18-2012 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by philip.ed (Post 446139)
It sounds depressing, but it's the truth. I personally don't really care any more either. I just come here to see if there is anything new as I want this game to succeed.

That's pretty funny. You don't care, except that you actually do care.

kristorf 07-18-2012 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Hayward (Post 446153)
That's pretty funny. You don't care, except that you actually do care.

Its the same as quite a few of us really, we want fixed what we have paid for, but can't be bothered with the other 'stuff' churned out (but not very regularly now) by 1C/MG because we can no longer honestly believe what they print.

philip.ed 07-18-2012 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kristorf (Post 446158)
Its the same as quite a few of us really, we want fixed what we have paid for, but can't be bothered with the other 'stuff' churned out (but not very regularly now) by 1C/MG because we can no longer honestly believe what they print.

You hit the nail on the head hear mate.

It's best to avoid David though. He takes everything literally, and lacks the ability to read between the lines.

JG52Krupi 07-18-2012 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by philip.ed (Post 446201)
It's best to avoid David though. He takes everything literally, and lacks the ability to read between the lines.

:lol: agreed

David Hayward 07-19-2012 12:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by philip.ed (Post 446201)
You hit the nail on the head hear mate.

It's best to avoid David though. He takes everything literally, and lacks the ability to read between the lines.

I have no problem reading between the lines. Mostly it's whining.

Chivas 07-19-2012 12:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by philip.ed (Post 446139)
Chivas you're right to an extent. But the lack of interest highlights that people have moved on from CloD and, clearly, haven't seen much reason to come back.
Perhaps positive change will bring them back, but if they can live without the game they may see no need to go through further trouble to squeeze the most out of it. I think that's the bottom line: if they are happy not playing it, they may see no reason to go back; especially if the only real change manifests as the next sequel. BoB lovers still aren't happy.

As an offliner it will take a miracle to make me want to upgrade to play this game as much as I am playing BoB2 right now.

It sounds depressing, but it's the truth. I personally don't really care any more either. I just come here to see if there is anything new as I want this game to succeed.

Just release the blasted SDK and let the community sort this game out.

If the game engine is fixed the WW2 aircombat community will come back as there is no other alternative atleast at the moment, and I don't see anything in the future that can even compete with IL-2 1946. I had hopes for WarThunder, but their BOB map still only incompasses Manston and Folkstone making it useless for anything more than airstart furbals. The DCS WW2 sim is along long way off.

icarus 07-19-2012 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chivas (Post 446220)
=The DCS WW2 sim is along long way off.

So it seems is a 1C WW2 sim.

PotNoodles 07-19-2012 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Hayward (Post 446217)
I have no problem reading between the lines. Mostly it's whining.

There's that favorite word again "whining" Used because they think it will make you say nothing negative about the game. Cannot grasp the fact we paid for the game and in this day and age when you pay for something you want it to work like it should. I laugh ever time I see that word "whining" because these people think it's it's like a cross to a vampire, that people will retreat when it's used :grin:.

Bewolf 07-19-2012 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PotNoodles (Post 446303)
There's that favorite word again "whining" Used because they think it will make you say nothing negative about the game. Cannot grasp the fact we paid for the game and in this day and age when you pay for something you want it to work like it should. I laugh ever time I see that word "whining" because these people think it's it's like a cross to a vampire, that people will retreat when it's used :grin:.

There are debates based on ideology "I demand because I am entiteld too!"
and debates based on reality "small development team, small budget, will take time".

The one constantly clashes with the other.

JG52Uther 07-19-2012 12:27 PM

If it was up to me I would ban anyone that used the word 'whiner' or 'fanboy' on the forum.
All it does is inflame things, but thats probably the intention...
Carry on. :rolleyes:

PotNoodles 07-19-2012 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bewolf (Post 446307)
There are debates based on ideology "I demand because I am entiteld too!"
and debates based on reality "small development team, small budget, will take time".

The one constantly clashes with the other.

You cannot take away all what has been said about the game by the Devs, and it's here when expectations are not met that questions get raised in the first place. All I can say is, you shouldn't inadvertently raise questions about the game if you don't want to be in a position to start a debate.

David Hayward 07-19-2012 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PotNoodles (Post 446303)
There's that favorite word again "whining" Used because they think it will make you say nothing negative about the game. Cannot grasp the fact we paid for the game and in this day and age when you pay for something you want it to work like it should. I laugh ever time I see that word "whining" because these people think it's it's like a cross to a vampire, that people will retreat when it's used :grin:.

The problem isn't that you're saying negative stuff about the game, the problem is that you're saying the same stuff over and over and over and over and over and over. I felt the same way about Wings of Puke as you feel about CoD. I didn't spam their message board with constant complaining. I moved on. You should consider doing the same.

Bewolf 07-19-2012 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PotNoodles (Post 446324)
You cannot take away all what has been said about the game by the Devs and it's here where questions start to get raised in the first place. All I can say is, you shouldn't inadvertently raise questions if you don't want to be in a position to start a debate.

As I said, there are debates based on ideology "I demand because I am entiteld to!"
and debates based in reality "small development team, small budget, will take time".

Nothing in your post changes that. If you still take everything a developer says about an upcoming game at face value after more then 20 years of game development history, well.........

PotNoodles 07-19-2012 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Hayward (Post 446327)
The problem isn't that you're saying negative stuff about the game, the problem is that you're saying the same stuff over and over and over and over and over and over. I felt the same way about Wings of Puke as you feel about CoD. I didn't spam their message board with constant complaining. I moved on. You should consider doing the same.

I'll say the same to you David. You cannot take away all what has been said about the game by the Devs, and it's here when expectations are not met that questions get raised in the first place. All I can say is, you shouldn't inadvertently raise questions about the game if you don't want to be in a position to start a debate. I know each patch will bring a new debate and I would listen to people's concerns instead of flaming them.

David Hayward 07-19-2012 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PotNoodles (Post 446331)
I'll say the same to you David. You cannot take away all what has been said about the game by the Devs,

Sure you can. If you're not happy with the game, find something else to do with your life. Problem solved.

Icebear 07-19-2012 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Hayward (Post 446327)
The problem isn't that you're saying negative stuff about the game, the problem is that you're saying the same stuff over and over and over and over and over and over. I felt the same way about Wings of Puke as you feel about CoD. I didn't spam their message board with constant complaining. I moved on. You should consider doing the same.

So if you don't like it leave it? No, thats too easy, cause we like it! What you did at "Wings of puke" is your thing, but who are you that you advise your wisdom over and over and over and over and over and over again.

So why don't YOU move on?

Bewolf 07-19-2012 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Icebear (Post 446333)
So if you don't like it leave it? No, thats too easy, cause we like it! What you did at "Wings of puke" is your thing, but who are you that you advise your wisdom over and over and over and over and over and over again.

So why don't YOU move on?

What do you like? The game? Most certainly not, giving the stance displayed in the forum. The community here? Can't be either, given how much this behaviour gets onto the nerves of those that simply realize that things are as they are and the devs are trying to sort it out. Maybe you mean you "like" to be unnerving? More likely, I suppose.

PotNoodles "But the devs said....D:!"....all I can say to that, grow up, they said it, they were incapable to hold their promises, they got more Flak over that then probably any other developer in the history of game making, now move on.

I seriously tried to ignore the whiners here for the longest of times, simply thinking "one day they will either accept and make some constructive proposals for a change, or move on to games more to their liking". But it is impossible after all that time to still have the same stuff repeated all over the board again and again. Zero personal development.
Get a life, guys, seriously.

PotNoodles 07-19-2012 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Hayward (Post 446332)
Sure you can. If you're not happy with the game, find something else to do with your life. Problem solved.

If you are going to answer me David don't just edit parts of my post and give me a half baked answer. We can all do that and make it look as though we have answered something.

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Hayward (Post 446332)
Problem solved.

What problems that again David? Oh you are talking about my left foot.. Yes it's alot better, thanks for asking :).

Icebear 07-19-2012 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bewolf (Post 446335)
What do you like? The game? Most certainly not, giving the stance displayed in the forum. The community here? Can't be either, given how much get onto the nerves of those that simply realize that things are as they are and the devs are trying to sort it out. Maybe you mean you "like" to be unnerving? More likely, I suppose.

Why do you ask what I like when you obviously already know it? There are people who fight for that what they like and for there interests.

Others sit down and wait or complain about the noise... ;)

David Hayward 07-19-2012 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Icebear (Post 446333)
So if you don't like it leave it? No, thats too easy, cause we like it! What you did at "Wings of puke" is your thing, but who are you that you advise your wisdom over and over and over and over and over and over again.

So why don't YOU move on?

Thanks for posting this. It provides some really good insight into the "logic" of someone who spends hours spamming a message board for a game that they don't like.

Icebear 07-19-2012 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Hayward (Post 446340)
Thanks for posting this. It provides some really good insight into the "logic" of someone who spends hours spamming a message board for a game that they don't like.

To say it in your words...

"Sure you can. If you're not happy with the board, find something else to do with your life. Problem solved."

P.S.: Over 'n out... back to life :)

David Hayward 07-19-2012 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PotNoodles (Post 446337)
What problems that again David?

The problem that has caused you to spend many hours spamming a message board for a game that you're not happy with. Find something else to do and CoD's problems will no longer bother you.

Bewolf 07-19-2012 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Icebear (Post 446338)
Why do you ask what I like when you obviously already know it? There are people who fight for that what they like and for there interests.

Others sit down and wait or complain about the noise... ;)

Yes, there are people who fight for what they like. And I have the biggest respect for those people, those that gather material, organize bug trackers, write mails to the Dev team construcivly outlining the problems and proposing solutions, digging themselves into the script language of the mission builder to get the best out of it even without official documentation, those kinda people.

And then we have little crying children sitting in their chairs at home doing nothing but typing, who use every other thread to spam their message "but the deveopers promised....D:!!!!" "I demand......!", "I am entitled to because I paid "money....!", writing in a style as if the Devs are sipping Margheritas laughing about all the folks they obviously ripped intentionally off.
Not to speak about the extra kicks they give to the guy almost knocked out on the ground already.

That was understandable in the very beginning, but now, over a year after release, it's just pathethic.

pstyle 07-19-2012 01:50 PM

man this thread is dire.

nobody knows when/ if this game will ever patch up. So there. end of.

Icebear 07-19-2012 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bewolf (Post 446344)
Yes, there are people who fight for what they like. And I have the biggest respect for those people, those that gather material, organize bug trackers, write mails to the Dev team construcivly outlining the problems and proposing solutions, digging themselves into the script language of the mission builder to get the best out of it even without official documentation, those kinda people.

And then we have little crying children sitting in their chairs at home doing nothing but typing, who use every other thread to spam their message "but the deveopers promised....D:!!!!" "I demand......!", "I am entitled to because I paid "money....!", writing in a style as if the Devs are sipping Margheritas laughing about all the folks they obviously ripped intentionally off.

That was understandable in the very beginning, but now, over a year after release, it's just pathethic.

I fully agree to your point of view. But do you you know what else is "just pathethic" over a year after the release ? ;)

PotNoodles 07-19-2012 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bewolf (Post 446335)
PotNoodles "But the devs said....D:!"....all I can say to that, grow up, they said it, they were incapable to hold their promises, they got more Flak over that then probably any other developer in the history of game making, now move on.

I seriously tried to ignore the whiners here for the longest of times, simply thinking "one day they will either accept and make some constructive proposals for a change, or move on to games more to their liking". But it is impossible after all that time to still have the same stuff repeated all over the board again and again. Zero personal development.
Get a life, guys, seriously.

I would consider myself all grown up because I am willing to look at both sides without using silly little words like "Whiners" etc. Nobody forces you to read what you don't like in here and there is an easy option called the "ignore function." But if you cannot resist reading a thread where the title clearly says "Whats going on" that's your fault nobody else's.

Bewolf 07-19-2012 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Icebear (Post 446355)
I fully agree to your point of view. But do you you know what else is "just pathethic" over a year after the release ? ;)

Nope, I do not, but enlighten me. What else is?

Bewolf 07-19-2012 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by PotNoodles (Post 446356)
I would consider myself all grown up because I am willing to look at both sides without using silly little words like "Whiners" etc. Nobody forces you to read what you don't like in here and there is an easy option called the "ignore function." But if you cannot resist reading a thread where the title clearly says "Whats going on" that's your fault nobody else's.

Yes, I am forced to read what I do not like. Because I only know what is written there "after" I read it. And especially when the subject matter at hand tends to come up in every other thread. Believe me, I tried my hardest to "ignore" it and look the other way over the last half a year. But you guys make it simply impossible.

A thread titled "What is going on?" can mean everything and nothing. Why don't you guys just make an official complainers thread where you can write in what you dislike all day long, with everybody else fully ware not to enter there? That would be progress.

If your only proposal to that is to use the "ignore" function, an honor only Furbs got so far, then you can have that. If that is what you really want.

omgclod 07-19-2012 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Icebear (Post 446355)
But do you you know what else is "just pathethic" over a year after the release ? ;)

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Icebear 07-19-2012 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Bewolf (Post 446358)
Nope, I do not, but enlighten me. What else is?

You really don't know ? Take your time and read this.....

omgclod 07-19-2012 02:05 PM

I did already enlight him.......

PotNoodles 07-19-2012 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Bewolf (Post 446362)
Yes, I am forced to read what I do not like. Because I only know what is written there "after" I read it. And especially when the subject matter at hand tends to come up in every other thread. Believe me, I tried my hardest to "ignore" it and look the other way over the last half a year. But you guys make it simply impossible.

A thread titled "What is going on?" can mean everything and nothing. Why don't you guys just make an official complainers thread where you can write in what you dislike all day long, with everybody else fully ware not to enter there? That would be progress.

If your only proposal to that is to use the "ignore" function, an honor only Furbs got so far, then you can have that. If that is what you really want.

Yes best to slap me on your ignore if you are not open to debate from both sides, it will save me doing it to you.

Bewolf 07-19-2012 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Icebear (Post 446368)
You really don't know ? Take your time and read this.....

Ok, full stop. Are you aware of the size of the dev team? Are you ware of the funding sitation at 1c? Are you aware of the problems that arouse with so many of the old programmers leaving the dev team, including the old master himself?

Given all the infos we got here about the state of the development team and the problems they have to overcome currently, you complain that things do not work propperly? Seriously?

We are back to square one.

There are people that debate on ideological grounds. What they should have gotten, what should have been, how the game should have released and so on, completly ignoring any real impact on such principles. Lots of "shoulds" and "ifs" and most of all "I"s.
It's their ideal world populated by 100 percent funtioning robots where nothing ever goes wrong and payment grants you the perfect product you will be happy with ever after.

And there are people debating based on reality, taking events and impacts outside the planning into account.

If this was Silent Hunter V, where the product was even buggier then CoD when it arrived and the whole development got abandonded after three meager patches, then yes, I would undertstand your stance.

But even THAT community stopped complaining after 2 or 3 months and simply started to break up the software and got on with modding.

Bewolf 07-19-2012 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by omgclod (Post 446372)
I did already enlight him.......

All you did was showing me some crash report, stuff I got myself before I worked a bit on my system.

What you could start with is opening a thread, giving your system specs and then we could try to figure it out. Because performance wise the game runs quite fine now, most problems stem from software conflicts.

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Originally Posted by PotNoodles (Post 446374)
Yes best to slap me on your ignore if you are not open to debate from both sides, it will save me doing it to you.

wish granted

omgclod 07-19-2012 02:28 PM

It's my second computer during the last years. But this new one faces the same old problems like the old one. Thought it will be gone after bying this rig.
I guess you can't blame my computer for this mess.

But i have also to admit that i don't use alpha or beta patches. Don't like to experiment with my installation.

Here are my specs anyway: i7 2700k @ 3.5GHz
8gig Ram
Nvidia GTX 580 1524mb ram
Win 7 Home Premium 64bit

Should be a fine rig for modern games i guess......

catito14 07-19-2012 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by omgclod (Post 446382)
It's my second computer during the last years. But this new one faces the same old problems like the old one. Thought it will be gone after bying this rig.
I guess you can't blame my computer for this mess.

But i have also to admit that i don't use alpha or beta patches. Don't like to experiment with my installation.

Here are my specs anyway: i7 2700k @ 3.5GHz
8gig Ram
Nvidia GTX 580 1524mb ram
Win 7 Home Premium 64bit

Should be a fine rig for modern games i guess......

A lot of people who have the gtx 5xx series have had a lot of troubles, i don´t know why ... i have an gtx 480 OC and works like a charm .... and i will change it for a gtx 680 .... both of this cards (the 6xx and 4xx) seems to works better than the 5xx .... pretty weird imho.

Bewolf 07-19-2012 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by omgclod (Post 446382)
It's my second computer during the last years. But this new one faces the same old problems like the old one. Thought it will be gone after bying this rig.
I guess you can't blame my computer for this mess.

But i have also to admit that i don't use alpha or beta patches. Don't like to experiment with my installation.

Here are my specs anyway: i7 2700k @ 3.5GHz
8gig Ram
Nvidia GTX 580 1524mb ram
Win 7 Home Premium 64bit

Should be a fine rig for modern games i guess......

Check your PMs

Bewolf 07-19-2012 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by catito14 (Post 446387)
A lot of people who have the gtx 5xx series have had a lot of troubles, i don´t know why ... i have an gtx 480 OC and works like a charm .... and i will change it for a gtx 680 .... both of this cards (the 6xx and 4xx) seems to works better than the 5xx .... pretty weird imho.

I have a GTX570, works no problem. Using the beta patch for CoD, however, would be a first step in getting to fly right now.

FS~Phat 07-19-2012 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by catito14 (Post 446387)
A lot of people who have the gtx 5xx series have had a lot of troubles, i don´t know why ... i have an gtx 480 OC and works like a charm .... and i will change it for a gtx 680 .... both of this cards (the 6xx and 4xx) seems to works better than the 5xx .... pretty weird imho.

I had GTX580 1.5GB cards and changed to GTX580 3GB cards and all my stutters disappeared with everything on maximum settings even in earlier patches.

The problem is the game still uses 1.8-2GB video Ram with the tuning of the textures they've done with everything on maximum so the card has to swap textures to system memory and back again. It used to use close to 2.5GB in earlier patches. Most people that are complaining of stutters now are just plain trying to run the game at too higher setting for the video ram in their cards.

If you can you should run MSI afterburner and check you Vram usage and turn game features off until you get under 1.5GB vram usage. The biggest change will be trees, buildings and changing from original textures.

catito14 07-19-2012 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by FS~Phat (Post 446392)
I had GTX580 1.5GB cards and changed to GTX580 3GB cards and all my stutters disappeared with everything on maximum settings even in earlier patches.

The problem is the game still uses 1.8-2GB video Ram with the tuning of the textures they've done with everything on maximum so the card has to swap textures to memory and back again. It used to use close to 2.5GB in earlier patches. Most people that are complaining of stutters now are just plain trying to run the game at too higher setting for the video ram in their cards.

If you can you should run MSI afterburner and check you Vram usage and turn game features off until you get under 1.5GB vram usage. The biggest change will be trees, buildings and changing from original textures.

GTX 580 3gb?? Have you got a nuclear powerplant in your pc?? lol ;) ... With those cards, you MUST, run everything at very high or else you are a sinner. :-P

FS~Phat 07-19-2012 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by catito14 (Post 446395)
GTX 580 3gb?? Have you got a nuclear powerplant in your pc?? lol ;) ... With those cards, you MUST, run everything at very high or else you are a sinner. :-P

I do just about have a reactor in there ;) 2 x 1500W PSU's and the system can peak at 2.5KW under full load in a game.

Yes I run everything maxed out and have zero problems with game stability and butter smooth. Because SLI doesnt work im only using 1 card at normal 1920x1080 res. Occasionally I run the game in surround @ 6048x1080 and thats the only time SLI actually works properly across all 4 cards and it works smoothly too but I have to turn a couple features down to keep FPS above 30.

jamesdietz 07-19-2012 03:08 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rKYL0tW-Ek

ATAG_Septic 07-19-2012 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by jamesdietz (Post 446398)

This is clearly inaccurate for the BoB, it's set in 1944!

I don't remember that sketch, great funthanks for posting :)

Septic.


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