New update for ROF
 

ROF recently introduced an update that makes an already good game much nicer. If you own it check it out. If not, I would recommend buying.

I know, It's good, but this is wrong forum. Please move to pilots lounge.

I expect nothing because I have purchased ROF and this can gain dust until it is fixed enough to play.

Yeah ROF is awsome and worth every penny and we still have great things to look forward to with the new channel map coming. Plus there seems to be alot more people playing it lately for some reason.

I remember when CLOD was released it said it would be a ROF killer and the servers would be empty bla bla bla. But i think now it is the other way round ROF makes CLOD look silly and the ROF servers are full with newbs. :)

Whoever said that about rof was a fool, I for one had hoped that JG52 could support both games and tbf JG52 do, unfortunately due to the direction that rof has taken these past few months I am no longer willing to support it...

P.s. Fruitbat you jammy sod :) I'm jealous!

Reasons why you cant support it? :confused:

As soon as they started selling separate weapon packs they lost me as a customer.

Before you say anything about the difference this has or hasn't made to game play it is the principle that I can't support :(

Why not? Its god for 777

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You live in dreamworld development costs money. Do you do your job for free or do you expect to get paid? :confused:

Name one other flight simulator that sells weapon kits?

Answer my question do you work for free?

Your loss. The game mod update is great.

There is some rock solid logic.

No but I don't do half a job and then ask for more money to add something that should have been done already... ;) pretty obvious!

Since you have proven over the past 16 months that you have no logic or do not understand its meaning I really don't care what you say David!

This is the first time I've heard anyone claim that weapons mods should have been included in the original game, so it's not nearly as obvious as you seem to think it is.

Were do you get half a job from? the weapon mods are awsome and they all work.:confused:

Right back at ya!

Yawn, if you want to spend money on something that you shouldn't have to then go ahead just don't try and tell me what to do with mine.

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No one is telling you what to do with your money. Don't buy the weapons mods, I don't care. Most people seem to think the mods are a great idea and I was curious why you don't.

I just don't like being bent over a barrel and having my wallet raped, if you like that then go ahead and pull your pants down im sure jason will be over straight away!

If you really didn't care then why post at all? You just like to argue anyone can see that from viewing your posts!

Wake up and smell the coffee DLC is everywhere and you better get used to it because thats how things are now. :!:

Its only here due to the lack of a backbone, if ppl had just not bothered then it would have died the way of the dodo!

Unfortunately history has shown that human-beings will do anything to screw over there fellow man and this is just the skill less way of doing it!

If you think that the new content is bad, don't buy it. I agree with that 100%.

If you think that you should get all sorts of new stuff for free, then you're just delusional.

the rof weapon mods are a quirky feature. you don't have to buy any to benefit from the reworking the guns got either, as long as you have a plane such as the SE5 which has the overwing gun which is now moveable and has a higher rate of fire. what i objected to was the field mods, the fact the SE5 has the damn mount for the aldis modelled from the get go, but no aldis sight fitted unless you pay for it, really pissed me off. i bought it, but it pissed me off.

The game would have also died. I prefer that they continue to update it.

Yeah, I thought you didnt care!

I don't care about you. I care about the game. It's a really great game.

Agree and its miles ahead of CLOD now when it comes to content. :grin:

C'mon Krupi, you own hundreds of games. (I've seen a list in Steam!).

The RoF weapons mods cost about the price of a pint for each 'plane, and if you add them, the weight reduces the performance of your aircraft. It' s not like it's a 'pay to win' scenario because of this.

I bought most of the mods for the allied a/c, and you should see what happens to the Sopwith Dolphin. 6 guns. Yup 6. It's awesome! :grin:

This one is for you Krupi. :grin:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...v=UzZiIByxgQA#!

Just don't get in the 'spin of death' ;)

I can understand this, I mean I can be ok with the purchase of aircraft, but if it gets out of hand and we have to start buying bits and pieces... yikess... I know its not there yet, but you have to draw a line in your wallet at some point :)

Kinda like World of Tanks, I admit it ... I bought a premium account a couple times, I even bought a tank... be I will be damned if I will spend money on ammo! :)

Who said you have to pay for ammo?

Talking about WoT.... just making the point... where do you draw the line on what they start making you pay for :)

watch out if jason takes over then you will have to buy the fix!

Of course no one has a problem with this.

Well, no problem other than the fact that it's complete nonsense.

But at least you know it would work. :)

I thought you didnt care David so why are you still posting?

I am not going to support a game that makes you purchase something that you shouldnt have to, simple!

I still don't care about you. I care that someone is posting nonsense about a game that I do care about.

Fine, don't support it. Your loss.

Why are you getting all uptight about it Krupi was it something we said. :confused:

I dont really see anything uptight about his response... we all just need to take a deep breath :)

Who said me? But if you really didnt care about me then you wouldnt post, yet for some odd reason your still posting therefore proving what... yes that's right that you do care. Thanks David, its really quite sweet!

By the way heres a break down of how much you would spend on ROF if your brought everything... taking into account discounts as well, to be fair!

Aircraft - $130

Field Mods - $50

Weapon Mods - $37

So that is - Roughly $217

Now a lot of these aptly named "mods" could have been done by yes thats right modders... something which even COD lets you do!

So guy ahead and bend right over, just don't expect me too follow suit!

Krupi, why you even bothering, you tell others not to get entangled in arguments..

You know what the man(?) is like...leave it

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That is because 'his' rules don't apply to him.. Just those 'other' people

Your right of course, I have said my piece just some people don't like to hear the truth.

Not to send this off on another tangent, but this is a huge point, the pricing model that ROF uses, and other types like WoT, etc is a huge knock on modders and the modding community.

Why would a company release an SDK if they can make the content themselves and then sell it... think about it.

I blame Call of Duty myself... :)

Just like the others who 'said thier piece' to which you atributed the following picture..

But i dont mind paying for them because money aint a problem for me. My steam acount it way more than that and i hardly play any of those games because im always playing ROF so ive have had my moneys worth and then some. But for people like you that dont have much money i can see it being a problem. ;)

That is a good point..

But personally I would rather pay for an add-on..

Be it a plane or what ever..

Knowing it went through the same process that all other items went through..

Because to be honest.. Most mods are not even worth the FREE price we pay for them! ;)

In my definition of a perfect world..

It would work this way..

They would provide an SDK.. A person would develope something, say an aircraft

Than submit it to 1C.. Where 1C woudl than 'review' the aircraft 3D model, cockpit, FM, DM, etc.. to see that it meets 1C's standards

Than 1C would include it in the basline game as an update.. And post it on thier site for DLC.. And the person that made it would recive a percentage of the DLC price..

Basically just like RoF does it now, but, where a 3rd party can submit stuff and make a little coin for doing so

And if for some reason 1C decided the product was not up to 1C standards.. Said person could still offer it up for others to use.. As a 3rd party un-aproved mod for those who want to use it, but at that point it would require everyone to DL the mod to be able to play online toghter..

Basically just like IL-2 mods does it now

But am I over there (777 forums) complaining, bringing every down no... I was asked to explain why I believe something and I did so!

I did not go around seeking an argument like you and David do.

At the end of the day ROF works and CLOD dont. ;)

I know where you're coming from. I find it slightly insulting to have to pay for gun sites. BUT. If given the option of having a hobby fail due to such a small population of interested participants or having optional paid ad ons to continue the hobby, I'd go for the paid ad ons.

I truly think our hobby is so tenuous and small that this is a viable option, despite my kicking and screaming (sometimes with credit card in hand). In this case (RoF) I don't think anyone is screwing over any one else.

CLOD works perfectly well for me!

I am out of this thread I have posted the truth, hopefully some here will see sense in that before putting there hands in their pocket when Jason posts another "beg for money" just so the smeg head can fill up his porsche!

Have fun flying though the trees lol

I understand what you mean Krupi, but compared to what I've spent on FSX over the years, the cost of RoF add-ons is peanuts.;)

Do can someone make the exact sum of RoF "complete edition" ?

Just to clear the matter ...

No, you posted nonsense.

You don't like the new content? Fine. Don't buy it.

You think you should get new stuff for free? Good luck with that....

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You can rationalize anyway you see fit, but the fact remains you do the very thing that you condem others for doing.. Maybe not as frequenly, but you do them just the same. PS glad to see you took me off your ignor list! S!

I don't wish middle in where I was not called but we are just testing a 100 octane Spitfire version in the Beta.

You can also get all the new features and fly 2 of the best aircraft in the game for FREE. You can also fly as a gunner on any multi-crew aircraft online for FREE. Let me guess, FREE is more than you're willing to pay?

Speaking of bending over, no one is bending more than the people who spend many hours working to add free content to a game.

Install the game but fly just two planes ?

That sound more like a Demo than a free game.

How is that relevant? Are you pointing out that you didn't have to pay for it? That's great. Of course, it should have been in the original release. The same is not true for RoF weapons mods. That is new content. The only "mod" in RoF that should probably have been in the original aircraft release was the SE-5 Aldis sight.

You can all the game content, including updates, and it never expires. That's not a demo, that is a full version game.

I think only the demo is limited to two planes?

Not 100% sure in that I have the full game..

And I think the full game is what David was refering to?

In that RoF has it set up such that two planes come with the weapons mods for free..

Where as the other planes you would have to pay for the weapons mods

I really love where 777 is going with this!

This taylor your plane to your liking is pretty dam cool!

That and the pay for DLC has an aditional benifit that no one is taking into account..

That being paying $200+ for a game has a filtering effect..

Where the filter filters out the following..

1) The kid-os who can not convince thier mama to pay $200 for a game
2) The minimum wage starbucks barista types out there that get upset and leave when they realise that everything is not free in this world!

Makes for a much more enjoyable online experance IMHO

This thread reminds me of my kids last night, we bought four folding chairs, each was a different color, my daughter called dibs on the blue one, but when my son called dibs on the red one that she had forgotten about she got mad because she wanted that one, even though she called dibs on the blue one first, now she wanted the one my son called dibs on... fight ensues...

Make sense? No... either does this thread :D

Plus if anybody jumps in my 2 seater they can use my weapon mods so it is happydays.:grin:

My mom said never to jump into a two seater with strangers, even if they offer me a weapons mod....

Thread makes less sense really, coz in this case anyone can have as much or as little of both colours as they want.............

That is cool! The other night some kid-o jumped in as my gunner and starting shooting at blue sky.. I simply pulled my 45 and put him to sleep! Good times! ;)

Now I wasn't aware you could do that. There've been times when someone's jumped in my back seat and started shooting at friendlies and even at my own wings. I always forget to change the settings when I'm flying.

Now I have to go buy a colt. Thx for the tip. ;)

By the way.. the FLAR gun works too! I did that by accedent once! ;)

Its only relevant over that you did pointed that there no free content in CLOD so there is an example.

There others examples, others Spit and 109 versions are added along with the patches, as the 109-E for example.


I watched RoF and there a lot of things that I don't like in which there thinks like the graphics engine, and there others more dark like his marketing policy.

I could write a text wall explaining everything but I don't wish be in this debate, its not that I are against RoF or some thing like that, if you likes RoF is fine, its just that I don't like.

Choice is a wonderful thing!

The only thing I take exception with in your post is your 'opinon' of RoF's marketing being 'DARK'

I don't see how anyone could refer to it as 'DARK' in that 777 is not holding a gun to anyone's head, nor are they charning your credit card without you knowlage

It is of your own free will that you buy the DLC

I never said that. There was often a little free content with IL-2 updates. I would expect something similar with CoD.

On the topic of RoF. It is a good game, and has come a long way from launch. It still has issues so many people seem to forget when people bring up how perfect it is.

1. AI is still very stupid.
2. If the RoF server is offline, you cannot play online or even fly single player career.
3. FM's for German planes are still not right on the Alb series.
4. Career mode has been in "beta" for a loooong time. It is very weak compared to many other games.
5. Online (for US as far as I can tell) is desolate. Not a huge deal for me but big for others.
6. No coop career.
7. Jason Williams. Makes it out to be 777 is always closing its doors if you dont buy something. Sob story of sorts, even though it is a very popular game. Then makes snide and rude comments to users on the forum. He needs to work on people skills, and customer appreciation.

I like RoF. I own alot of planes, as well as extras (weapon and field mods), but I dont kiss the butt of 777 like most.

I think people would love to see how much money they spent on the game goes to development, and how much goes to supporting the devs lifestyle.

Also, RoF is WW1, comparing it to WW2 game is kinda odd. Yes its good, but until it does the more complex area of WW2 planes, its hard to say one is better than the other.

Agreed, it is far from perfect and it has been out for how many years now?

On that note, I have had more CTDs in RoF than CoD

Yep. I have to admit that I enjoy buying additional stuff for flight sims.

Whether scenery or aircraft for FSX at £40 a pop (although there's also a huge amount of free stuff around) or the price of a pint or two on bits for RoF.

It'a similar to the scale model building hobby. People have piles of model kits on the shelf that've been there for years.

I enjoy buying planes, guns, instruments etc and trying them out.

Sorry if anyone finds this offensive. ;)

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I haven't seen anyone say that it's perfect. That's why I'm happy to buy more content. I'd like to see them continue to improve it, and that costs money.

Depends; what kind of instruments do you collect? Musical I'm okay with but medical not so much ;)

I was shocked that at Christmas time he decided that 777 studios had survived due to 'God' (as he thanked in the email) and not the fact that customers had paid money for his game, keeping the company afloat.

Perhaps god purchased everything available?

Exactally!

Which is why I wish 1C would switch to the 777 way of generating $

The 1C method of charning for a sequal every 12+ months does not seem to be working as well as 777 method of charging for DLC every couple of months..

That is the say the 777 method has provides good feedback on what they are doing.. Why wait 12 months and bundle up all the DLC into one big sequal, only to find out most people didn't give a rats arse about differnt colored scarfs.. Best to dish it out peice meal month to month to see what people like and don't like

Not to mention the more consistant cash flow has to make life ezer to pay the bills to keep the lights on!

Yikes...that's odd. Since buying the Iron Cross edition when it came out, and flying all 26 planes in my hangar in different modes, I have not had one single CTD in ROF. I guess you can't put a price on a properly set up rig! :)

If someone mentioning "God" shocks you, you are really desperately looking for something to be shocked about.

This reminds me of the BMS vs DCS discussion on the DCS forums...

WHO THE F**K CARES!

They both have their pluses and minuses... but they both are striving for what I want... combat flight sim... plenty of room on my hard drives so why cant we all just get along and enjoy the fact that there is more than one option in the combat flight sim world :)

I have ROF, CloD, DCS and BMS installed currently, pretty happy with that variety myself :)

It's not the rig. Everyone is getting regular CTD's loading multi-player missions right now.

That must be why....I have only flown online a few times. I mostly fly career or make missions in the editor.

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Both!

Funny when I said that to you and yours wrt CoD CTDs you just poo pood the idea.. Glad to see your comming around to the fact that different PCs can cause different problems! Welcome aboard!

PS I hope you don't mind it if in the future I quote you on this the next time the topic of CoD CTDs comes up!

In that I feel it is important to show the current whiners that some of the previous hard core whiners, like yourself, given enough time, will realise what so many of us have been saying on the topic of CoD CTDs.

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I have never complained about CTD's in COD. You must be confusing me with someone else. Go ahead and take a look at my posts, but the reason for that might be because I haven't really flown it online.

If you say so.. I really don't care!

I just wanted to make sure and ask you prior to useing your quote in any future CoD CTD topics.. In that there are quite a few whinners around here that don't agree with us that the PC configuration can be the sorce of most if not all CTDs