Friday Update, June 15, 2012
 

Evening gentlemen,

A very short update today. We’re continuing to work on the patch. It’s largely done but DX9 stability remains an issue so we’ve had a quick discussion a few minutes ago and decided to let it simmer a bit longer.
We did make some progress this week. On the graphics front, we did make a lot of improvements on the always troublesome DX9 support, and we also fixed a lot of smaller bugs and made some improvements to the clouds.
On the aircraft front, we’ve done virtually everything we wanted to do, and we’re now working on improving the AI FM, especially focusing on removing controls flicker and the barnstorming maneuvers. Most of this work is, of course, based on the very helpful reports and suggestions from the community.
We’re hoping that we’ll have a playable stable version of the patch ready very soon.

Have a great weekend!

Thank's for the news. let us all hope for a quick resolution of the last problems.:-P

Thanks for the update!

You too Black Six! Thanks for the update!

thanks for update BS
~S~

Thanks for the update BlackSix. Sorry to act brash but is there any update to ground control vehiciles just out of curiosity? Thanks for all of your hard work.

"we’re now working on improving the AI FM, especially focusing on removing controls flicker and the barnstorming maneuvers."

YES, YES, FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT IS GOOD AND HOLY, YES!!! AND IT'S ABOUT FRIKKIN TIME!!!:grin::grin::grin::grin::grin::grin::grin:: grin::grin::grin:

hah again very soon.

Cheers :)

will the next patch still be considered Alpha? Or will we be moving to the next phase?

Hahahaha

Reaching the absolute truth.
 

Reaching for the absoluteness of the truth.

Thanks for the information.

Salutes Majo

Can someone give me some idea to when the official patch will be out? PLEASE

Two weeks. Be sure.

very soon

In other words, sometime between next week and eternity, you're welcome.

P.S Thanks for the update B6.

Thanks for the News Black Six.

Before the 24th of June we hope! "Storm of War Campaigns: Battle of Britian" is waiting! ;)

I hate the vapor in the morning ...
"very soon" ... that words includes thousands of possibilities .... why this guys are sooooo ambiguous? B6 give us an exact date ... we deserve that.

I know what two weeks is, but is there a difference between soon and VERY soon?:-P

Because the last time the estimates weren't met to the second Maddox Games was torn to pieces by the "Gimme-gimme-wanna-have"-crowd? :roll:

Not that their estimates have ever been particularly exact, mind you, but people here have the unfortunate tendency not to read what is posted but to read what they want to read. And woe betide you if reality then doesn't match imagination! :roll:

i took A2A Spitfire from FSX for a ride, so i feel a bit grumpy about CLoD this week; anyway..

"made some improvements to the clouds"
what does that mean, are they usable now?

"On the aircraft front, we’ve done virtually everything we wanted to do"
so is the FM as good as you can do it, or as good as CLoD allows it to be? are you satisfied with it?

"Most of this work is, of course, based on the very helpful reports and suggestions from the community."
suggestion from the community: change the crosshairs to suit something more real, the current ones just, to use the word, suck

+1

To be honest though, i think we are way past the point where one answer will create more of a meltdown than the other if you know what i mean.

Yawn..

Sorry, guess I should not announce that a patch will be passed Wednesday or any day after (which could be up to 365 days later). This causes expectativo by users.

Doing that also with the vast majority imagine that the patch will be released on Friday or Saturday

Thank you for the update of information and sorry if isdo rude.

Tks

Taking the first, and the last sentence together, that makes me happy if true. So you did consider Blackdog's suggestions thread, too, as I read it?

That is my point ... why the hell they make a declaration about a release of the patch "wednsday or day before that" and then they came with this s#$t about "very soon".

Bomber fix B6?
 

From B6:

"On the aircraft front, we’ve done virtually everything we wanted to do,"


I hope by "aircraft" you mean bombers B6 :)

Thanks for the update, BlackSix!

Because doing so and missing that date will see 1C crucified even more viciously than they currently are. And if you think the boards are bad now, it's nothing compared to what they'd be if they posted a date and couldn't meet it.

Not anymore so dont..

Dont worry yourself over it..if people stop doing that this forum would be a lot easier on the eye

a year ago your main task was DX11:grin:

Thank you with the update Luthier & BlackSix.

Good news b6!

Very interesting to hear that AI fm is being looked into, that kindof came as a surprise to me :) (not like a "Oh I didn't know that needed fixing", more a "Oh, thats nice they suddenly decided to look at"). Also the dx9 thing, well, I understand the situation there so just get it finished whenever and we'll have a go at it.

Enjoy your weekend guys! ;)

nice weekend
 

let yourselves quiet time, anyway, nobody plays cliffs of dover

Thank you B6 and team, you too.

Have a nice weekend then focus freshly on the problems so we can get a patch very very soon:-P

this must have been written by luthier, the English syntax is much to good for black6 :)

I see the big problem is the Maddox team/1c is not controlling properly the community (costumers) speculation...
They are creating speculations and destroying at the same time, what brings costumers frustration.

If they start from the beginning saying the patch gonna take 3 months (or some other date, more than big enough time span, to have it complete) this means creating just little speculations, people would just get a lot annoyed, but would stay watching the clock waiting for the release to come out and get released (making expectations), and if they release it before the date, people would just jump of happiness.
However the maddox/1c, it's giving a "hopeful date", or a "we think date" but for customers there is no hopeful date, for us customers, the speculation date of the release, is the real date of release and for programmers that date, is the hopeful date of "if everything goes right" what in a such complicated world never happens.
All of this blame and unhappiness is not fault of the programmers or core team, but of the one's that are "controlling us", the one's that should just give us the info that we should have to know at the right time.

I like the way the maddox work, they take a lot of in put of the community, what is really good in such project as this one, but for that they gotta share information, and that information creates speculations, and they must control those speculations! This is the kind of knowledge the project manager/commercial relation team knows, but is not applying.

All this storm could be avoided.

Just one thing B6 could you share some new Screen shots of the BoM?

Invest in the future, not in outdated technologies.

Thanks b6 and Thanks Devs! for another Week whit your buggy/Unfinished Game! :D (B6 and Luthier, dont worry, you are good men and your task is inform us, so im not going to tell you anything bad, thanks for all(in the good one))

yeah, but, the hope its the hope, and the patch is not here, and we dont know when and how

Not to worry, I am sure you will get it when its done....

Yes) Ilya give me info after that I write text on Russian and Ilya translate it on English.
I think what I will be able write such text on English at the end of the year.

So your English is still in Alpha or Beta? :D

Pre-Alpha)

Also they promised a game who worked fine isn't it? :confused:
Well ... it seems that they used an "smoke curtain" using the DX9 matter as excuse because they can´t complete something potable to release in this week .... and seems that a lot of people "bought" this smoke .... :(
The last "alpha" patch was released than over a month ago ... and they come with this now? So much time needed to move from Alpha to Beta? .... vapooooooor again.

:D

**yawn**

Better than my Russian... ;)

and we’re now working on improving the AI FM, especially focusing on removing controls flicker and the barnstorming maneuvers.

Uh what does this mean?

Making the AI fly more like real people and not half crazed meth addicts :)

don't listen to the cry-out-louds; they have gotten us into that mess in the first place, with their "the grass is too green" nonsense...

ok i had too much, so lets pick up the joystick, start steam, and start il2, no matter how its his state, its beautifull, lets be honest, and all of this its becose its like that and we cant play it at 100% ;) so lets wait, but please devs,god,doesent matter, release the patch soon.. and for the dx9 yes i cheched it, but they can talked the week ago about the inminent dx9 problems right? it doesent matter, just centrate on release the patch

:D

Hello all,
At "last" i know the patch is imminent and should be out "soon", "before or after some wedsnday"or "when it's ready" Although it will only implement a huge improvement of FPS and stop stutters etc...nothing is yet said about all the other probs (Radio, weather,COOPS,etc...) Anyway the Devs made my day: a new patch very soon (alpha?, beta?, Omega?)
Thank you
YES, i am sarcastic.
YES, i know it does not help the Devs but they should have known this when they released Clod.
YES, after 15 months, imho i feel i have the right to be sarcastic once more
YES, the Mods can ban me , but there will be no need as i'm off
Toedeloe, tata, God bless you and pleasant dreams.
That is all,carry on
Tigertooo

Hey don't roll your eyes at me. I don't care for it much either.

You know, this will no doubt get me a vacation from the forum, but why don't you lot that can do nothing but whine and moan and never get the point just bugger off.

Seriously.

You are never going to be happy with the sim, no matter how good it may get. Oleg could come back tomorrow, give all of you a gold plated freaking hotas setup of your choice, with a version of the sim that allowed your favorite plane to obliterate all comers, and give 1000+ FPS with graphics set to MEGA UBER BEYOND COMPREHENSION that would run on an Apple II, and you still would not be happy.

So why not go away and never come back?

You will be happier, and so will the rest of us.

:rolleyes:

Gold plated HOTAS?...pfft, garbage. Not realism at all.

Not satisfied. FIX IT!!!!!

If and when they put out something that remotely resembles a patch that actually fixes something, then those that have shelved the game will be happier. Lets not get all "holier than thou" because a lot of folks aren't happy with the borderline fraud that has been ongoing for the last year or more. Why don't you just play the game and ignore posts that get you all worked up?

I could say the same to you.

Oh, I just did.

Whoa....can't argue with the kindergarten mentality there. I will take a shot at it though.

I know you are but what am I?

I'm rubber and your glue, whatever you say bounces off me and sticks to you.


That was fun.....but if you will excuse me, the adults would like to have a discussion now.....

How about luthier making a post for a change. Instead of hiding behind poor old black 6.

I so love your 'Money Pit' movie logic.......




Fades back into the shadows........................................... ..;)

What I find works is think of an outrageously long wait, one that you can scarcely believe. Then double it. Then add how long you think it should have taken to begin with. Plus a couple of weeks for luck, then round it up to the following month. The answer is almost always some time after that.

The humorous thing, in a sick and twisted way is: the news of yet another delay is released in a thing called a " friday update " from a spokesperson with limited command of the English language whose call sign initials are BS.

Priceless... so the people complaining about the state of the sim are somehow responsible for the slow development and problems of the sim. :-P

One day the sim will either be excellent or die as a turkey... who knowns. All i do know is we have just received more meaningless words from the developers. Whose words are loosing credibility month by month. Only hard evidence via solid patch updates mean anything now.

Thanks for the update blacksix :)

My new puter aint ready yet, so im in no rush :D Lookin forward to the patch when its ready :)

Oh, and my current pc runs cliffs pretty darn good, even for a "crud" 32bit machine :) If more ppl played online, id be there all the time :D

Obviously this really needs a separate thread for philosophical discussion... but YES! Thank you for saying that Stormcrow! Thank you! :D Personally I've never understood the bad press "Elitism" gets.... when was the last time anyone rang around their mates to ask if they could recommend the worst plumber they know? :D

31st December 2013.

If it comes in before that you can celebrate.

If I'm wrong neither you nor I will be here to argue about it.

I'm thinking we won't see the final release patch for a good while yet. September perhaps. Although that would make it a full year since they announced their intention to rewrite the graphics engine.

My personal opinion is that patch will be pulled up to the Battle of Moscow. If at all.

Let's see the half-full glass. I am very happy and grateful that the team still exists and works on this simulation despite the economical downturn. I would thank directly the sponsors, since the dreaded "bean-counters" are doing the right thing for once.

Cheers!

How long till the announcement of the "upcoming project"?

very soon

You mean "Maddox -very soon" or "normal very soon" ?

both:grin:

hello community...

It's pitty that this awesome game needs so much patching & re-patching.

Great game, great work, but it shouldn't have been released in such a hurry and such a buggy state.

One patch resolves some probs, when it makes other emerge...hopefully it will not be an neverending story !


S! 1C team and community :)

Very soon as in tomorrow ? Or very soon as in 2 months from now ? Could you be a little more specific ? Hopefully the work on the AI is successful. Right now I can follow large groups of enemy fighter from about .10 of a mile or right on their tail and fire for minutes on end and no response from them like I wasn't even there. All of a sudden after I shoot a couple down the rest go into rolling frenzies with 3 rolls per second and fly like a circus act . I would say AI fix should be a HIGH PRIORITY since online barely even works and all there really is , is offline mode .Other than that a very cool looking game , runs pretty smooth .

Here it is...
 

Here it is, just around the corner. The Patch we've all waited so long for. We can wait a bit longer, if we have to. I think it will be worth it.
S!

I think someone needs to write to the Guinness World Records and ask if it is a record for a single person to be thanked so many times lol.

I wouldn't agree with that... I agree with what you say about fixing the AI but to say the online doesn't work whereas the offline does......... In my experience, and many others out there, it's the other way round. I think I've only had about 10 ctds in the entire time flying with JG26 online (I'm not counting the few more I've had when leaving servers and/or starting the game up... I'm talking the "Ok.. engaging now... DAMN!" moments. lol). Offline, it's a matter of starting up engines, rolling down the runway and... Crash to desktop. :D

:):):)

Never in the field of online gaming, did so many thank so few for so little.

It's not a matter of not wanting to update, it's a matter of priotites as to what my salary is spent on!

If I could give a word of advice to developer team in order to meet the frustration and demand of restless customers: Please consider to provide smaller and more frequent patches and upgrades to the game. This would give us a concrete feeling that we are progressing instead of what whe have now, long stagnant periods of uncertainity and speculation and frustration waiting for next patch to come.

BlackSix I would appreciate if you would pass this message to Luthier. I thank you in advance.

:grin: :grin: :grin:

The lack there of naturally makes one wonder if there really is work being done on a patch rather than MMO's and sequels (not counting removal of existing performance heavy features).

Future will tell I guess, meanwhile this thread is totally hilarious and extremely good entertainment.

I'm sure this will be the case in the future as they get to grips with various bugs, but we all know that this patch is primarily concerned with what is practically a rewrite of the graphics engine. That's going to be a big, major patch no matter how you slice it.

S!

Well, waiting for the update eagerly as FINALLY getting my TM Warthog back. Took some odd 1.5 months to get a new one replacing the broken one. So let the patch come :D

Don't spend it at Molineux, that's a total waste :twisted:

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I shall buy BoM, Battle over Moscow if this is the tittle of the next game of the IL2 series. I did buy the entire collection and never been deceived even by CoD with many his bugs but still playable with big and powerful PC’s. I am certain that the team of programmers shall make the game work like they did make work the previous versions. IL2 was not build in one day!:rolleyes:

Guys its time to take this OFF TOPIC discussion to a new thread. This thread is specifically for Friday update and you have all taken liberties with the dx9/Xp discussion and other off topic discussion, to the point where this update thread was unreadable.

Any further DX9 / XP discussion here please!!!! >>> http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=32712

Anything else irrelevant and off topic will be deleted without further notice!

Back on topic .... where is the patch? ...or maybe i need to ask ... WHEN, in the name of God, you will release the patch?

Well, if no-one else will, then I'll say it: message understood BlackDog- - and thanks for your candour (love the reference to Clockwork Orange - bang on!)

Marx

Thanks for the support Blackdog!

Guys not only did you go on and ignore me you also ignored Blackdog.

Thats TWO moderators trying to be fair and give you guys some gentle guidance and yet you blatantly ignore us?

Start a new topic for your OFF TOPIC discussions. OR better still, bite your tongue! Most of the "discussion" (I use the term loosely) in here has no relevance to the topic and is just a small minority getting on their high-horse.

It's gotta stop so this update thread can be useful to those that want to ask constructive questions or make a request.

Here's a really simple test you should ask yourself before you post anything in this update thread.

1. Am I asking a question of the devs (or B6) relevant to the update?

2. Am I asking my fellow flying 'buddies' a question relevant to the update?

3. Am I answering a question with an opinion that is 'considered' and relevant to both the question asked and the subjects presented in the update.

4. Am I offering an opinion or discussion of a relevant subject from the update and is it constructive. (yes we do take constructive criticism too as long your not being rude or disrespectful)

If you cant make a comment that fits any of those criteria above then perhaps you should consider whether it warrants being said at all. And if you think it doesnt fit and would still like to discuss it, take it to a new thread in the appropriate forum.

Please consider this thread is not a place to have a lengthy conversation as if it were a private conversation. If something turns into a lengthy debate or useful discussion as sometimes happens, please use your own judgment and request a new thread from a moderator and we will move stuff for you.

It's very hard to get anything useful from this thread for anyone if it is constantly polluted by a series of arguments over several pages that often have very little relevance to the actual update and not at all helpful to anyone.

I will be monitoring and moving or deleting so please dont make it harder than it needs to be! :)

It seems by the OP that we are nearing a workable beta for all or have i got it wrong?

I don't really see why it should be necessary to move this discussion into a different thread, after all much of the update is about Dx9 problems.

I cant see any relevant dicussable content in the Friday Updates that demand keeping these threads open, so why, Mods, dont you just close them ??? Best, Allons!

+1

I agree, leave them open for a set amount of days, mod the crap out of them when the posts are not direct questions to the devs, then after set amount of days lock it.