Friday, May 25, 2012. Report 3
 

Dear friends,

No mini patch today.

We're working along the following lines:

* Obviously, fixing all reported issues encountered during testing.
* DX9 support
* Completing all other incomplete graphics and performance improvements

We're also working through an unexpectedly large volume of reported issues with the flight model.

The next version of the patch, which will take a bit more work, will contain all of the above. We'll keep you updated.

Thank you again for your tireless efforts in helping us make the game better.

Have a great weekend!

Thanks B6, out of interest how long will the patch remain in a alpha/beta state?

Sweet

It depends on our programmers. I don't know how much time they will take to fix all problems.

FM revision soudns nice, and DM?

the "Completing all other incomplete graphics and performance improvements"

il also include view distance problems?

- house popping at to cloose of a distance? http://www.il2bugtracker.com/issues/198 http://www.il2bugtracker.com/issues/273
- huge mismatch betwe lowres tectures and hires at high altitude http://www.il2bugtracker.com/issues/141

And the ATI worry

Maybe. I can't say. All info will be in the final Readme.
I got info from Ilya today and I published it. I don't know about details of work the programmers, sorry. I'm working with only sequel now.

ok B6.

surprises make the waiting more worth it i guess :)

cheers, hope to hear from you soon

Thank you for the info!.
Waiting a little bit more.... ;)

Thank you!

But don´t hesistate to give us some more test-material!!! I think the community is ready to test and you can benefit from that!

Thank you B6 and team

Dont even think about it
 

No they won't! Some might but the majority will howl towards the moon.
It's a sort of a prepaid Beta we have today and how well did that go down in the "community"?

Viking

Edit: And a big thank you to BlackSix for the update!

thank you BlackSix for keeping us informed....

But could you please ask Luthier, when the FMs will match historical data?
Could you please ask the FM programmer(s), why the hell, suddenly the E1 and E3 stall and aiming behaviour are such different to the E4?
On which data/document, was the FM change of the 109s based anyway??(a bottle of vodka?)
Could you please ask, when or whether the FM programmer(s) will fix the prop pitch bug of the E4, and the prop pitch speed of all E versions?
Can you also ask, why you as a flight sim company, have to rely your FMs information on one 3rd party guy(IvanK), and why you dont have the relevant documents by yourselves now, after more than a decade in business?
And can you ask, how they managed, to make the new FMs even further from the truth, after they have received the docs?
....it cant be fun to fly on the red side now...

You are right, you got a point there.
But with the damage already done, I think they can only benefit... (or at least it would be worth it...)

BalckSix,
if you can please post what does Luthier intend to do on the distant LOD issues? IMO current LODs are far better than before, much easier to see against the background.

I`m hoping this change can stay for good because in IL2 history of patching we had the same positive change and it got removed for some reason.

Thanks Blacksix,
please would be possible to predict if the release is matter of three weeks or six months?
Thanks again

Thanks for the update Blacksix

Thanks for the news .

B6, Im affraid nobody will buy sequel if CoD dont be fixed before.... or please to do Demo of Battle of Moscow before.

War of Thunder is comming (a little different subject but who knows what will be in the future?). If CoD dont be fixed quickly many people leave CoD or BoM tittle and will try War of Thunder....

Thx for the news.

Thanks. Glad to know you're working on all these many things, whatever they might be, plus DX9 support. Looking forward to enjoying the result at some stage in the future!

S!

Thanks for the info and have a nice weekend.

Thanks for continued updates. Keep up the good work :grin:

Thanks B6 for update and concerning all complaining posts, which are again take place here:

Read the info and let it be!
1.) fm: they work on fm issues and their aim is to work it out concerning tracked issues and the requests of the comunity. These are discussed and so, you should know, that will try to get more and more accurate fm's. The question, if they will change fm further away from reality is such a dumb question! Sry, but.... Omfg... :(

2.) Some posts refer to graphic details: Again read B6 statement and you see, that they try to bring back the missing features and will add some tracked geatures and solve bugs. What is the thing, that some of you do not understand. I don't know, why u are again asking such questions over and over?!? Omfg.... :(

3.)Lod: Normally a good question, but asked before 100 times. Belongs to graphic issues, because they partly depend on it. So, why again this question. Again Omfg...:(


They should work on the patch. They know the issues and are working on it. So let them finish the work they have to do. We all discussed it, the major issues are tracked in bugtracker and so no need to ask all questions again.

You will not receive an answer and get frustrated, because they do not care or reply on your post, but guys: What do u think? All bugs, features etc. are discussed, tracked and will be worked on, as long as they are of importance in the current state.

And please: Do not ask again about xxxxxx aa support!!! This will be no keyfeature until the game gets fixed!! :)

Thanks B6 to keep us informed.
We knew that the team is working hard to get rid of these bugs.
Have all a nice weekend.;)

thanks B6.

the patch, for when? for the next year?:evil:

Hi. Thanks for the update.

Can we get information about the sequel? I know there are some people who just complain, but many people curious about what comes next (and the progress of the sequel).

Waiting for a Grafik patch , we have to massiv Problems with frame drops
and sutters in low level fly!
And finaly i wait for the JU 88 Autopilot ...we wait since over 1 Jeahr!( and call and call ,and call.

but thx for Update

written by JG_Widukind

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Thank you for the update. Have a great weekend, yourself!

great news! Thank you and keep up the good work to make CloD better and better.

I dont understand!! How can anyone be assigned to work on ANY sequel until the original game is out of its alpha/beta stage?!? Surely they know that noone want to buy any sequel if they cant get the original game to work 14months after its release... Where i come from this is not how business is made so i guess its a mentality clash between Russia and the rest of the world...
And that is just sad since some of the best programmers come from Russia... :(

Thanks for the comm BS.

Something is worring me : till the beginning it appeared that the game ran smoother on Windows Seven. XP is no longer supported (or not so far). Why devs are wasting time DX9 support ? Does it mean that the sequel would run DX9 ? hum... i really don't want a "Tetris" game.

They've stated before. Work on the sequel is modelling and maps/missions. The engine is shared between both games (like Il2FB). Engine work will benefit both CoD and BoM and is being worked on by programmers. Modellers who make 3d models cant exactly try their hand and poking around in multiplayer code for example.

Hi the reason is simple. CLOD has writen in the BOX DX9 support. so every official patch for this product must support it, otherwise people who dont have DX10 compatible systems, have very strong grounds for suing 1c and ubisoft.

In my opinion the sequel shouldnt have DX9 support, that would stop that problem.

Are there really that many flight sim fans that have DX9 only GPU's?
Anybody trying to play COD on a DX9 only card needs help, i cant even imagine the way it would look after turning down the settings to get acceptable FPS.

i absolutly agree with you furbs. but you cant change rules in the middle of the game. Also the problem is not so much the GPU you use but rahter the OS you use.

Buy a DX10 or 11 GPU but cripple it with XP? come on...

You have no clue about programming, right? Why should the 3D modellers, or the mission programmers wait until the system core programming or the video engine is ready? He has a completely different work.

You must be American, an International lawsuit for ...wait for it...$49.95.:grin:

You'd be surprised at how many people still cling to xp claiming it is better. Why they want to stick in DX9 era is beyond me but there's plenty who do it seems.

I don't know for sure but I think a lot of people in Russia (their target audience) still run XP, which is why they still support it.

Not to mention this game was suppose to come out years ago, so when they started making it XP support would of been a must.

Keep pluggin away team I have many other games and sims to keep me busy, plus it's summer spend some time outside.

Yeah, XP is utter crap compared to Win7. Office or games, it is waaaaaaaaaaay more stable, easier, more accessible, as fast and has compatible software. Also using Vista from 2007 till today I had like 7 BSODs, while for XP I can`t even count how many.

it wouldnt be 49.99$, it would be more than that...

want it or not, and as much sense it woudl made to drop DX9 (trust me, i'd really want this to happen!!!!) it will NOT happen. Its like the grumman thing, tis stupid and childish, but its not going to change....

Except that, in the sequel all they have to do is not print out DX9 support, and that will jsut be a ghost from the past.

Totally agree.

Except for the die-hard fanbois the only thing keeping CloD afloat is Heinkills' sterling work and the excellent Desastersoft Wick v Dundas add-on.

14 months on and we still have an unstable sim that is devoid of many working basic features whilst the devs devote the majority of their time to the sequel. I mentioned a while back that I felt the devs have little or no interest in making CloD the sim it deserves to be. For that to happen their hearts need to be in the project... and I've felt for a long time that certainly isn't the case.

Ever had that feeling you are being strung along? My personal message to the devs is that I won't touch BOM with a barge pole until CloD is somewhere near being out of the Beta stage it has only recently entered.

Dear Blacksix,

Thank you for the brief information.

I can only speak for myself:

* Obviously, fixing all reported issues encountered during testing.
Great, that is the priority

* DX9 support
Pardon my French, who cares üöä§# about DX9, we have spent hundrends of $$$ buying hardware for the past 12 months. You have hardly managed to give us a more or less working DX10 model so, concentrate on delivering a perfect working DX10 first!.

* Completing all other incomplete graphics and performance improvements
YES! please!

We're also working through an unexpectedly large volume of reported issues with the flight model.
As I said above, concentrate on delivering a perfect working DX10 first!. Give us a perfect working platform FIRST!.

Second, since you (=Luthier) decided to start the discussion on flight models, give us transparency: same as IL2compare,
http://grathos.de/temp/CoD/il2compare_bf109_spit.jpg
we need a CODcompare in order to understand what is going on with the flight models before you start messing around with them at your discretion.

The next version of the patch, which will take a bit more work, will contain all of the above. We'll keep you updated.
Summarizing, my point is, fix the first things first and stop adding things to your list, things that will delay the release of the badly needed patch.

Respectfuly with my best wishes for a nice weekend,

~S~

We don't ready to give you new build. Please wait.

We understand this.

This info will be later, maybe in autumn, maybe at the turn of the year.

I'm mission designer, I finished my work with current patch in January.

We must support DX9 for CloD.

1) We must support DX9 for CloD.
2) Compare will be in the sequel.

Here’s what’s frustrating…

Sine the game was released over a year ago there have been some improvements. The game is more stable for many and they replaced the placeholder IL2 lawnmower engine sounds with new ones. The 109 is brilliant…the Spit and Hurricane not so much and sound like a delivery truck with a bad muffler.

Then we wait six months for the Alpha patch and like I predicted, it helped the game run better for some but many found no big improvement and it brought as many problems as solutions. We were told the FMs were being reworked and they are still a mess. We were told about the new graphics engine that would double fps but on my rig I didn’t see a difference…still getting slowdowns in combat, still getting ground scenery popping up, vibrating shadows, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc.

Here are a few more predictions…we will get a beta around the end of the summer and it will have a few more fixes and a number of new problems. Then we will get the official patch around December. It will be a little better than the beta but still lacking many features that were teased two years ago…like pilot bailout animation. Don’t even THINK about the super, top secret game feature that will be the envy of the industry. I think that was the product of some extra potent dope someone was smoking.

The reality is that our baby was born with some severe disabilities and is unloved. There are a few hard working developers that drew the short straw and are doing all they can to make CLOD a go but they lack the time and skills to do it right and get the job done in a timely way. For every problem they fix they create five more. That’s why it’s taking months to do things that should take days or weeks. This game is going to sputter along for years to come. And when they do introduce the sequel, no one will buy it and will be forced to sell the franchise to someone like 777. As far as 1C is concerned, I’m afraid the writing is on the wall. Our best hope is for them to sell or for another company to introduce a WWS CFS. That may sound crazy but it was Einstein who said “Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. That’s what we’ve been doing waiting for IC to create a new CFS for the last 10 years.

Please!
 

So why do you stay frustrated like this? Just leave and never look back. There are a million of things and games to fill your day with happy laughter's. Just do it, if not for you so for the benefit of the rest of us.

Viking

Thanks for the updates and the answers to some questions here, please try and at least drop us a post each Friday, even if you dont have much new to report, an acknowledgement goes a long way :)

Not leaving
Not a hater
Not wanting to see failure, wanting success!
Not a fanboy
Just frustrated and exercising my right to comment here...just like you.

Well then how about some screen shots from the sequel then?
(Probably not an original thought...sigh...)

I know you "must",
it is the delaying the patch because you want to include DX9 support that I do not like.

Thanks for the information regarding CODcompare.
Now, I am looking forward to the sequel :) I hope that it will come soon! (as I said some months ago, even if I am not "entirely happy" with CoD at this state, I will keep on buying your products!).

~S~

Thanks, Blacksix. By the way, I uninstalled the sim a couple of weeks ago. I'll just wait to read positive things of a future final release (not alpha, not beta) to reinstall it. And I guess by then I'll have to buy a new rig to fly it, because the last I bought a month before Clodo's release (in March 2011), although it's a wonderful machine, has nothing to do to fly your sim smoothly. And, what the heck, it's twice or three times more powerful than the requirements advertised in Clodo's box :mrgreen:

I believe and predict that this will happen. It's just a matter of time Unfortunately.

1c Madox Sorry, but I think the branches of the company of you is games like MEN OF WAR (and I think I have very good)! Simulators require 500%? more knowledge of programming and has a well-More than just 25 people (how many of those are actually programmers? anyone know?)

Finally I say that I love the series IL-2 and CLOD but I think the company has a lot to learn not to mention also that has no marketing strategy, it would have a battle of britain much more complete and can be divided into up 2 or 3 DLCs before they cast BATTLE OF MOSCOW.

I apologize if someone gets upset with my words but it is only an outburst is only my OPINION of what will happen as the mate (smink1701) said.

I love the IL-2 and want a better simulator


S!

Any news are good news.
 

Thank you B6 for the information.
Please don´t let the summer in before you take another step forward.
Timing is crucial.

Salutes.

That is an excellent point! Why are you still here?

Pfft. Aparently it hasn't gone into some heads yet that Maddox Games is merely a small part of 1C, the mother corporation, and that 1C could buy out 777 Studios out of the secretary's thank-you box - without making a noticable dent into it. If CloD fails the development studio will either be shut down completely or reassigned to other more financially interesting projects by the suits who make the decisions.

Thanks, but in all honesty is got to a

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz point

im patiently waiting for directx9 support i cant wait to see if a good 109 driver can out turn a bad spit driver :)

+1

Too bad not so many such optimists here. :grin:

Game should have never been released.

Oleg left and now it's a real mess, I don't blame the programmers who are trying to fix a mess they were unfairly left to deal with.

I still have hope it will eventually be sorted out and when it is, I predict all those who are super pissed now will be back to buy sequals.

No bigie!

When it is done it is done and not a second sooner! ;)

Thanks for the feedback and keep up the good work!

+1

Flight sims were, are, and most likly will continue to be a rich mans hobby

Well not Bill Gates rich..

But if your out of work and living in your moms basement..

Please don't expect a new game to run on your 386..

Well I guess it is ok to expect it, just don't feel justifed in complaing about it if your don't get 60fps ;)

Disagree 110%

Hey, I predict the same :D

Got the game yesterday, finally, it was cheap as bear. :) I have good machine so it runs pretty ok. But the overal level of finish is just appalling. So this took 10 years to develop and a year of patching?

The menu sucks big time, assigning controls is worse than in the old IL-2, no way to assign axis to zoom...

The graphics... Sorry, but game looks is poor. AA doesn't work, but that is a minor issue. The biggest one is the colors. How come there are guys making those FXAA injectors that fix this and it takes something like two weeks (no pun intended) to develop them, and the dev team could not make this in several year. I don't know if they have actually been to England, but some random images clearly show, it does not look like My Little Pony, which cannot be said about the colors in game.

The cities look poor as well with clone buildings resembling the old IL-2, giving a very generic feel to the whole feeling of the island. Not to mention the famous Cliffs themselves. The final product looks like most of the development time was spent... not developing at all. :(

I realize that I sound very mean right now, but I am not at all angry or disappointed. I knew what the game was and still bought it. The feeling of flight is nice, I like the cockpits and the planes and there is great potential in this to be the next greatest WWII sim ever.

I hope the devs will look at this from a distance and keep doing a good job of fixing the sim. I believe that despite all the roughness it has a lot of potential and it would be a shame if it went to waste.

agree 110%


I'm looking foreword to the sequel but not so fast ... I'll wait and read the reviews first.

Don't mix with Duke Nukem...

lol,

and with an attitude like this you expect to get an answer?

You should work on your communication skills...

I'm here because while I don't think 1C is up to the task I purchased the game and would love to see it succeed. It's a love/hate thing. Maybe I'm crazy.:grin::grin::grin::grin::grin::grin::grin::g rin::grin::grin::grin::grin::grin:

This is a large crisis!
 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnSDD...eature=related

Cheers from Germany!

It looks a lot more like just plain hate. They are still working on fixing the game. How about if you dial down the constant complaining until they are done.

Seriously? How much more time? Another 14 months?

Its an update thread, that people were asking for. Its not a thread to take pot shots at each other, or the developers.

As long as it takes them to fix it. Seriously.

Sometimes I wish UBI and 1C returned the money to every one, disabled the game on steam and started a new sale with the following warning:
"THIS GAME HAS ISSUES, BUY ONLY IF YOU HAVE THE WILL TO HELP AND THE PATIENCE TO WAIT WHILE WE MAKE A GAME WE WILL ALL LOVE"

But I doubt even this would stop the constant whining and complaints on this forum as some people just love to hear (read) themselves talk (write).

Please, Please, Please, stop. You all read the reviews before buying it and if not, you should have had to.

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I agree with Colander, I have more than enough of this continuous, useless, childish crying and whining and protesting over the issues of this game. We know there are issues. The devs know. The mods know. My grandmother knows. Stop. Singing. The. Same. Old. Song. Just stop, PLEASE!!!!!

hmmm no fix this week... oh well, at least i'm entertained for the next 7 hours...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkfVd...eature=related

THIS!!!! +100000

And thanks for the update :)

Thanks for the update B6! :D

Thanks for the update B6,appreciate what guys are endeavouring to achieve for us all:)

DX9 + sequel = backwards: Based on the CLOD business model (which is the opposite of the long term successful IL-2 - a now defunct company) they are working backwards focusing on DX9 as well as the sequel - which we will not buy as CLOD has shown to be a failure, without redemption nearly 2 years later with more bugs and incomplete. It was less buggy before they started downgrading, patching, injecting Alpha code as seeming proof that they cannot fix it as promised.


As many have inferred it will only fail as the market is not DX9 based + since CLOD was sold in a pre Alpha stage + nearly two years later the sole programmer who is employed is focused on a Sequel to generate a few new sales $ for a bankrupt project. What else CAN they do with the new 1C Maddox business model? The actions seen by the independent consumer is a veil of misrepresentations in order to avoid current/inevitable bankruptcy. Why would the consumer spend more money and receive no concrete product in the exchange?


We are all very disappointed but our flight clubs will not buy another sequel unless CLOD has been redeemed by The Company in a VERY BIG WAY from the initial release. We have already honoured our end paying the Sales Price but the company has not honoured their end.

Hope for the best but we won't toss More money (sequel of otherwise) into the bottomless pit. A sad lost cause. :(

I'll say it as it is, I just hope we are not waiting another 6 months for the next patch because that would be bonkers. The last announcement stated it was going to take 3 days each to fix the Cloud/Trees/Grass, so have these things been fixed? If they have lets have another beta patch to test them. I cannot see any problems with that since it will help you to identify problems like the last beta patch.

If i ever win the lottery i'll pay for the refunds personally, just to improve the signal to noise ratio here :-P

I'm not too thrilled about waiting myself, but i think it's worthless worrying about things outside my direct control. The way i see it, i just paid some money to keep the development going and get a finished game at some point.

It's all a matter of perception really. Small companies of well known developers in specific gaming genres have taken to starting kickstarter projects to fund their games. People literally rush to support not a game or franchise, but a mere intention to develop one, just because they love the genre and the developers happened to work on a few really good titles in the past.

Tim Schafer (Day of the Tentacle, Full Throttle, Grim Fandango) and Ron Gilbert (Maniac Mansion, Monkey Island) are two people who were working for Lucasarts games, making adventures back in the day. They wanted to get half a million dollars or so to fund a new adventure game project, but they didn't want to go to a big publisher company, get a loan and then effectively be held hostage over what the game will include and what kind of copy protection they would have to use.

So they started a fund raiser on kickstarter (google it up if you are unfamiliar with it), asked the fans to contribute and implemented a reward system. So, someone who donated $15 will get the digital download version of the game WHEN it is complete. Someone who donated $30 gets the boxed edition, $50 gets you a collectors edition, signed autograph or something, $100 gets you all the previous rewards plus maybe a t-shirt and the soundtrack on CD, etc, etc...The rewards i mention are not exact matches for the prices quoted, but it's close. You can even get your name in the credits of the game if you want.

So, they did this and collected, wait for it... more than $2.7 million.

Because their fans know that nobody else will make an old school adventure game today.
Nobody asked when, what or how, nobody assumed the rest of their developer team is worthless because it will take time that their money will be sitting idle with no finished game in their hands, nobody started any conspiracy theories about them taking the money to fund a stereotypical, to the point of racism, unhealthy American activity. "OMG they will take our $2.7 mil and buy supersized McDonalds burgers with ALL of it i tell you!" :-P

All these fans did was put a bit of down payment on a dream.

Then some guys who used to work in Interplay and had the first post-apocalyptic RPG (way before the first Fallout game) did the same. Now some people are doing the same to resurrect Carmageddon.

Meanwhile in flight sim land, another of the "days of glory past" gaming genres, the only reason our sims are not up to spec is that the developers took our money to buy vodka, not that a lot of features were aimed for by the devs (but also asked for by the community) and have to be implemented under tight hardware and financial constraints :rolleyes:

I think the proverbial " 'nuff said " is how i should close this post, but it really needs to be spelled out a bit further to sink in.

The average flight sim fan has his head so far buried inside his heap of performance charts that has lost the ability to dream, has forgotten the time when he was building plastic model airplanes with his father, or dreaming about having a way to get in a pilot's shoes once a day, holding a P38 model on one hand and a Fw190 model on the other and playing mock dogfights in the living room while making funny sounds with his voice to simulate engine and gunfire sounds and thinking to himself..."how i wish i could hook some electronic game to my TV and be able to step into that cockpit in some way".

That is the real pity here and not the state of this or any other sim. It's the lack of magic that is going to kill this genre, if it happens, along with the fact that dreaming is a punishable offense in this community.

Just because it has to be realistic, it doesn't mean we can't dream of better realism or features though ;)

there's no update here, same old lies, we are working on blah blah blah... BORING!

And some people wonder why some game makers choose not to provide updates

Thanks, somebody, somewhere.

I'm not sure who i should be thanking, or why I should thank them, but since this thread consists of no news, but lots of thanks, I feel I should join in the general spirit of thankyou-ness. So thanks, to everyone.

(and thankyou Ben)

No, don't mention it.

Thanks....

+1

if in 6+ months is the only info you get, so it becomes a lie...

The major difference here Black Six is they were honest and up front about the situation. That's not the case here. This was sold as a functional working game with out a peep from the DEVS about it's shortcomings, and releasing a statement that it's a work in progress and your support would be appreciated. If they had released a statement like that, it would be a different story all together. This was a "pull the wool over the eyes" cash grab, and people are upset about it.

[QUOTE=Falstaff;429291]Thanks, somebody, somewhere.
QUOTE]

You really shouldn't have! I did nothing, really. But I appreciate your gratitude and will attempt to do better in future to really earn your thanks! :)

Now back to the Update, It has only been a week since the hot fix and people are already moaning that they're being left out and Sim is finished and the same old rubbish that has plaugued this sim Oleg mention "Storm of War"

Get a grip on reality peeps!

For the sake of discussion I'll pull a couple of figures out of the ether. Lets say it takes a person five minutes to open a crash dump file and have a quick squizie at it to see what category it belongs to. How many crash dumps have been sumbitted? If everyone who's said the sent one in wasnt lying there would be at least a thousand. Just that would take up ten and a half man/days (working with an eight hour day)! And thats without any sort of indepth analysis of the actual reason for the crash

People swore blue that all they wanted was a short update even if there was nothing to talk about! Well that's what we got yeaterday.

Thanks BlackSix and the development team. Keep up the good work and hope every thing is going good.

I'm just grateful that the devs who are working on improving the product rather than walking away with the cash are working on the product at all.

I've seen so many half baked products released because the publisher wants their return in investment now and not tomorrow, and the devs are dragged on to the next product with no say in the matter.

Thank you for the update, even if there is no news. I thank you for your efforts, even if there isn't another patch yet, and I thank you for supporting us even though I'm sure that here is pressure to move on to the next title.

Wish I could say thanks but my patience is done. Nothing new here, just the same old we are fixing it...and will get back to you in a while. This game is shelved until next year. All these years of development, and this. I don't know what system they were testing this thing on, but I don't think the game was even half finished when released. Truly a massive cluster.......and a waste of my money.
You all that are diehard and keep thinking the genie will come out of the bottle if they rub it long and hard enough..well...good luck with that!

I would venture a guess that the profit margin was slim at best for COD. If they walk away now, it would probably translate into a sizeable loss. I don't think they can walk away yet, they need to release BOM to get some money back, so they have to fix COD first to get some level of trust back from the customers so they will purchase BOM.

Updates are great, but first and foremost, they should have provided a decently working game. That's my issue, I don't give a darn about the updates, I paid for something that would work MORE OR LESS right out of the gate, and got a worn out mule.
Patches? The thing is flawed so deep they might as well just scrap it and let someone else start over. This is like trying to teach a rock to fly.

I take this moment to thank the people who still use DX9, who are forcing the devs to spend their valuable and limited time on supporting outdate software...

o yea im so glad they are spending their time on dx9 as opposed to dx11 or maybe making new content for BOB or BOM

note: this is not against the devs who's hands are tied in this matter, this is to give a wake up call to the fools using dx9, who are now making the devs waste their time....im so glad that they are supporting software that, in a few years time will be almost completely phased out....not to mention if you have a computer that can run this game well their is no reason as to why you shouldnt have win7....

well thanks alot i hope you appreciate the devs wasting their time for you...because if i was them i would say tough luck losers.....i hope you are glad that they are wasting their time, which means i have to deal with no small caliber damage decals (small caliber is the majority of guns in the game !!!!!) on planes that much longer....thanks alot....




otherwise good work devs, its nice to know you support your customers even if that means you must waste your time supporting software that will be phased out, when this new il2 series is in its peak...


honestly it sucks that they added dx9 support, now they are going to have to deal with that out dated crap for the duration of the series...o well...i had a dx9 computer, but if this game didnt support it i wouldnt be upset, i would take it as a cue to upgrade, which i did anyways...

So will this be the soundtrack for the new battle of moscow ? LOL At least it's better than any justin beiber "music"

I'm using DX11 on my rig and she's working well . The odd crash though with game booster so I stopped using that .All that aside , what a collosal amount of whining on these threads. This sim will only improve with time . You guys should go play world of warcraft till next year , then give this another go .It's like going on a trip somewhere with kids in the back seat asking are we there yet every 3 seconds ..

....typical users... They allways blame someone else.... And put the game back on the shelves... "I want my money back!!!!" they screaming...fix this and that and fix my computer and fix my kids and my life and my wife...whoops, sorry You can't fix women just like that You need lot of years of tests and patience to communicate with her but You will never fix her, You don't want to force any changes on her because she will not talk to You then. But if You don't like her, why are You still here just go away in silence... typical user... That's the way I see Cliffs of Dover at the moment and typical users on this forums.

P.S thanks for update B6

DX9 is important for the very large flight sim market in eastern Europe.

why?

Lots of customers, but few high end computers.