@Blacksix
 

i was wondering...having a game browser list in il2 never worked.we all relied on 3rd party places like UBI and HL.

the game has had performance issues from the start.Is it possible that this game client that is built in to the game engine be causing the performance hits??The Client server has to talk to the game for each person that joines regardless of what server they prefer.This makes sence if you think about it. With all the far distance landscaping the engine needs to generate with all effects and such it seems to much for the game itself to have a server client engine running at the same time. What would happen if that server list was gone and we relied on our old ways of 3rd party lobbies?This could free up resources in the game itself.Can someone of importance look into this please?

this is not no little sandbox or tiny call of duty maps.having the server client list removed would even help with bandwidth.who needs it if it does not have the features we need?

can a dev look into this please... thank you.

You REALLY want people to use HyperLobby, don't you? :P

I very much doubt the performance issues have anything to do with the built-in server browser.

it would be great to have CLoD get the home it was ment to have and deserved.But it could be any program that worked.the in game client server is not good enough for this community.
as far as the performance issues with client and game. I believe you are wrong. no offence intended

While I love hyperlobby I doubt most new comers to il2 will even think about using it, this is because the system we have in COD is much better than whatever we had in the original il2 so hyperlobby isnt as needed as it once was and generally ppl don't like downloading extra software (steam was a hard pill to swallow for a lot of the old guys), that said I do miss the social side of things but even that is being done by ATAGS open teamspeak approach...

Good luck Woodstock I will see you on hyperlobby and thanks for all your hard work, the fact your on here promoting HL is a good sign for HL and COD :D

For HL to succeed the old guard will have to show the new generation the light ;)

Agree. Why use extra program if you don't need them. That's just adding extra mess to the regestry.

Do any other steam games have a chat function for example?

Serious question as I don't really play anything else other than the occasional ARMA game.

If they do then it should be possible to be added and that would be a start. Without transferring the 'other COOP argument' into this thread I would say that the chat function would at least make it possible to meet other people tell them you are hosting a coop style mission and let them know what it will consist of.

Nowadays we can join a server via a weblink like this one steam://connect/216.52.148.29:27016 (connects to ATAG bypassing menus)

I think it will take an hour for a web programmer to make a webpage with server list and a simple free chat software. Then another week to allow syncing of serverlist with Steam in real time. And maybe another month to let it start coops from this page?

Steam groups have chat. Join this group and open chat window via the right hand side menu. http://steamcommunity.com/groups/cliffsofdoveril2

Also be able to recruit,troubleshoot,compare specs and game settings in real time instead of posting somewhere and checking a link every 5 minutes.the il2 series has the best tech support in any game and it is all because the community.google this> "where can i play il2 online" and let it speak for itself.
all these years and il2 still kicks ass?? cannot be an accident.
you guys did this

wouldnt you want the same for Dover?

in this post im asking Black6 if the client server list wich is always running and changing be a resource hog and be part of the big problem

Do it... you know you want to. :-)

for god sakes somebody do it

if Dover had something simular i would be there right now.talking planes and game settings.asking questions like a noob.probably with alot more people online than there is right now in game client list

I can not program.

BTW if anyone decides to host a semi-coop (e.g. in DF mode) in HL now, will it launch in the same way as original Il-2? Players will take slots in HL and then join server when host starts mission? Anyone tested it?

give it a try, you might be surprised.HL has been out of Beta mode for Dover for months. ;)

I am not much into coops just want to know in case someone asks at sukhoi.ru.

i posted in wrong section..sorry, yes Ataros it does launch from lobby No Problem and even faster because it goes right to server just like il2 by passed everything in the past

;)

Does it still fail to count players properly?

+1

Ermm you do know how IL2 mission work dont you? You do know that we all have tha maps on our own computers and its simply a .txt file or two that is sent accross to the client. You make it sound like the server renders everyones graphics...

Do you realise there is proberbly some monies involved with Ubisoft and Steam and that the devs and 1c proberbly can't touch HL with a barge pole?

Unfortunatley the best way right now to see all the servers is through Steam. ATAG hosts a free to use team speak 3. Having a chat feature is redundant. Why type when I can actually talk to someone?

Has HL had a GUI facelift latley? Last time I used it it was like using something from windows 3.1, it really made me mad and all I wanted to do was change the file directory and I could'nt remember how to do it. This is why I uninstalled it in the first place.

ermm...is your name Black6?

I understand how it works and if you think its just sitting there in the background doing nothing you are mistaken.And we are not talking about some little sandbox game now are we?Not many other games have the draw distance that this game has.And that is just one thing.When was the last time you were actually in HL?
like i said before people..I might be HL STAFF but im not saying we HAVE to use it.
If you can do something better then do it.How do you recruit??I dont know about you but we dont let any "Joe Shmoe" in without seeing them in A lobby 1st.This community has ALWAYS had a place to go.more than just having a forums. Thats all im saying.Lighten up man.

all im asking is that the client server be looked at.


PS...If there were monies involved...SOMEBODY is getting RIPPED OFF!!NO way would this so called STEAM support worth paying for.They could care less about Dover

I agree, HL was a must for evrything,coops,war,community,meet new people,chat,problem solving etc....nothing to compare with Steam chat etc etc...


Sorry Mr. 5./JG27.Farber ...did you ever played Il2 with HL? no i think also reading your post...if yes how you can't not willing to have back HL or something similar for COD?
Im not polemic, just curios.
I still remember when I used to log in HL and see all the squadron mates connected, all the friends nice to fly with..all the enemies nice to fly againts etc etc...
or I can't forget to stay locked watching the coops section of HL waiting for Aviar ( a fantastic coops creator in IL2 community) logging in and open a coops..just rushing to join in before all slots where taken.
Or even with al the IL2 wars etc etc....sorry but now this is missing for all the community,it was ( and is still for IL2) the community PUB;)
Is my personally opinion
"de gustibus non disputandum est "
S!

It is possible to start a game group in steam for IL2 (there may already be one) and publicise it. Then people could join group chat and it would work like a lobby to an extent- talk to people in realtime, join games your sqquadmates are in, organise coops etc.

That would unify the community a bit more I should think.

sorry for that outburst Farber,it is not like me to do that.My reasons for seeing this sim in all its glory are selfish.
edited cause im not going to wear it on my sleave


this il2 community means that much to me.

No, you really don't. If you did, you wouldn't be trying to insinuate that the server browser is the root of these performance problems.

so what you are saying that the client server browser does absolutely nothing and is just sitting there idle and not counting pilots as they come online,joining servers?leaving servers?My point is that in il2 the ingame server list was never used the way this one is and suggesting that it be "looked" at is all.I am not trying to insult any ones intelligence here.Try not to be so negative all the time.

The steam servers handle that data, not the clients computers. At most it would be transferring kilobytes of data periodically.

okay, thank you Jimmy for your way of explaining it and being nice about it.

~S~

Please quote where I said the server browser does absolutely nothing.

It's pretty obvious to most of us that you have an agenda here. You want them to find a problem with the server browser so that there's a case to be made for returning to HL. Steam and the steam server browser works fine for literally hundreds of other games. It's not a problem with steam, it's a problem with the game. Going to a barely-functional 3rd party lobby is going to create more problems than it solves. With the exception of global chat, steam and the ingame server browser do everything better than HL or the ubi.com lobby ever did. I don't want the community fractured even more than it already is, thank you very much.

Sorry.

Hey, Woodstock, never loose hope as some guys here :) Get on ATAG TeamSpeak3 server if you can. They are very friendly guys to chat about CloD and aircraft in general. TS address is on their forums http://theairtacticalassaultgroup.com/forum/forum.php

wow. you sir are an ass.I clearly stated in many post that it does NOT have to be hyperlobby. If you got the ability to make a program i challenge you to do so.In fact please do because as ive stated many times it is THIS community that made il2 what it is. NOT the program.

if i get banned for calling you an ass, then so be it.

thank you Ataros. I plan to be on comms sometime this week.

~S~

@ CaptainDoggles
sorry.

twice today i have vented and later wish i had a better choice of words.Not a good day for me i suppose.
how about we agree to disagree and since it looks like you fly blue and i prefer red.lets make a little friendly game of it and look for each other in the sky.

check yer 6 man
taka,taka,taka
hehehehe

:) s~