Calm down
 

Hi,

If the developers are able to deliver here some fotage (trailer) of the upcoming patch, will calm down the community a litle.

People will be talking about what they did spot, diferences, improvements...

Just me 2 cents.

Regards,

P.S.

Developers, keep on the good work.

There isn't any difference in looks.

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+1 too

They have said it will visually look exactly the same, but with a lot better performance... But sure, there has been half a year since they started on the patch so some tweaking of colors and other stuff could of course have been done in the mean time.

So the devs aren't going to re-introduce fresnel based reflections? Propeller shadowing? The features that got removed in order to make the game run faster, they're staying gone even once the game is optimised.

That's a real pity, reflections were one thing that *made* the sim when it first came out, even on minimum graphics I loved the reflections, they made it seem *real*. My current idea of heaven is Il2 running at 120fps straight with all the original graphical options. :grin:

There is another game trailer what you can bought and play, when waiting il2 patch :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFYRK...ature=youtu.be

Kankkis

Well, stuff like that may of course get included again... But the only official information is that it will look the same - but with better FPS, less micro stutters, and most importantly as the performance is good enough today on my rig - we should not get CTD:s in multiplayer! :)

WHAT - it's out! Going to DCS shop NOW!

EDIT: And there it was bought! A hefty 4.97 Gb download though ;)

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Are you shure?
Isn´t the graphical engine been reworked?
That's why some fotage would be great.
I am shure people will have a lot to talk about it.

Yeah it's beta but at least they say it :cool:

Yes we are sure. The devs stated this quite some time ago. Thats why some of us - including me - are constantly repeating this to avoid the big scream afterwards like "6 months of work and everything looks the same?!?! What have the devs done the whole time WTF?!" ;-)
MAYBE there are some changes here and there, but nothing drastic I suppose.
They are working on the inner code of the engine, luthier called it like "under the hood" working.
So pls don't expect any changes or even a whole new look. We are just assuming that some graphical changes were made due to the long working period of over 6 months on the recoding of the engine. But nothing is promised!

The sky is falling! The sky is falling!

Not sure how posting some footage would be a bad thing, we'd be able to see the degree of performance improvement for comparable machines if the spec for the machine used to record the video was posted.

The graphics engine is being reworked, true. It is the engine, ie the programming hidden beneath all the gloss, that is being reworked not the actual textures etc. The developers could post any footage from the many teasers and trailers from years back (With any stutters edited out) and we would be none the wiser.

Think of it like replacing the engine in a car..... the car will still look exactly the same but the performance will be greatly increased.

The car engine/car appearance analogy is a good one. I'm hoping the improved performance will enable heavier cloud formations to be used, especially in online play, without the current massive hit in frame rates. It would certainly add to the realism and immersion, plus radically change the dynamics of gameplay for the better, IMHO.

That would be great as clouds are the big performance killer for me at the moment..... but having them present really adds to immersion. what I am really clinging to is the mad hope I'll be able to switch those shadows on. :) I have noticed that, even on my humble PC, I am getting an average FPS of around 56 on ATAG and yet on ACG, which uses a lot of clouds, I am lucky if I scrape by on 21 fps.

At the risk of sounding like a total "Fanboy", I am deeply in love with this simulator, warts and all. When the patch finally arrives I may even start a rudimentary religion in its honour. :D

did anyone notice the ME-109 on the ground as he taxied out? just static decoration or maybe a hint at whats to come ? DCS is looking more and more like it's going to be an amazing platform.

yes :)

I bought it today, what i can say, even the grounghandling is SUPERB.

Nice catch. Missed that completely. On replay, noticed at 1:35 that there's TWO of 'em! Fight's on! :grin:

P51D? us blue's might need a FW190. :)

Absolutely! With adjustable seat height this time! :-P

No, I think it is a common misunderstanding by many people. The way (method) the visuals are 'rendered' is being re-worked; all colours, contrast, bloom, reflections, shadows etc etc will stay the same - unless those values are specifically changed, in this case, it is not the intention of doing so.
It will look exactly the same! Only it will be much more efficient and for us this means more FPS! :)

So we should have some vids showing those promised double framerates compared the existing version.

The proof is in the pudding...

I believe if you just make a movie from the original and edit it so theres no stutters then you will have a good idea of how it looks.

No, the proof is in the patch. People want evidence, they don't want to believe anything they are showing or telling us.

If people don't want to believe anything they are showing or saying, what good does it do them to post a video?

I could be wrong, but believe that had read on past B6's updates, that some graphical aspects, like, colors, effects, had change on the re-write engine.

Sorry, for repeating my self, but a "movie" showing some work will be good for everyone.

If was me to decide, I had release the beta patch, even if bugged, and give people the freedom to try it or not. It´s a beta after all, not the final version.

Imagine that FPS boost is good and online CTD's cured, people would be happy.

Of course this is supposed, that on 13 April, when they made the last tests, every thing was funcional.

Well since we know that since April 13th (dunno why you picked that date) and the end of last week, everything wasn't functional, I don't see how a video is going to help..... Especially since (as others have stated) the changes are under the hood and as such any visual differeces are going to be minor.

The best thing we can do is just wait for the devs to do their thing and keep our fingers crossed that they can squash the bugs quickly..... Then we can all see for ourselves how the new engine runs on our own PC's.

It was from here. To me sound like patch final stages, final tests, before release.
Anyway, not a big deal for me. I am already enjoing the Sim a lot, the only annoying thing is the multiplayer CTD's.

Regards.

But the final tests were done to see if there were problems, why would anyone do final tests on something which will be released regardless?

I sorta wanna see the floating chevrons and star fox style ammo puffs of smoke coming out of my 109 mini guns.

stupid thread is stupid

a video is absolutely pointless in the current situation

Do I know you from any place, so you can call me stupid?

Looks like you are a kid or had a very bad education.

Doesn't sound like any P-51 I've heard before and I've heard plenty of them.

No guns in here as well I suppose. Is there *any* combat action? What exactly is the purpose of this? What does this one cost? What else do you need?

I think if you read it again you will note dan called the thread stupid, not you

Big difference

You're telling me!

Exactly Ace.

Mh. Looks like nice eye candy. If the FM is in Lockon style I am sure not interested in. Better playing Rof ...

You make me laugh.

In my dictionary the word "stupid" is offensive.

I put the thread up, to express my opinion.

So you mean that the person who bring this up is stupid, all people who reply on an stupid thread are stupid, or the thread by it self, stupid?

Ok, I understand, it come from no where, just from natural people's stupidity.

Come on, give me a break.

No more reply from me, don't gonna lose more time with you.

Edited: many years attending and replying on many forum, never had a sitution like this. Well it have to be always the first time.

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Totally agree,your spot on there Snapper,I'd love to see better cloud formations,it's one of the things that would look good and add to the realism/immersion.

For the time being an anticipation of the Battle of Moscow, the March of the Moscow defenders:

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IrcgGntTKfw


Enjoy!

That was my point. ;)

The producer stated they recorded the Flying Legends P-51 in Duxford and the in-game sound is nearly perfect. As I never heard a P-51 before, I can't say if it's true or not.

There are 6 machine guns and you can fit rockets and bombs. And fire/drop them on targets. But! there is no WW2 or 1950 Korea setting that you can fly in. This may change in the future (modding tools for DCS are available and a system for 3rd party developers to sell them, too), but atm this is a study sim of the P-51D and no WW2 sim.

Agreed. Bought the P-51 and it really is nice to have that plane in the "DCS World" as they call it now. But it needs a D9 to play with! OK, I could settle for a 109K but the D9 really feels like the perfect playmate :)

It costs $39 and then you get the "DCS World" with an Su-25K too... And you do have .50, rockets and bombs... There are combat missions against AI or multiplayer that I have not tried yet. I enclose some screens... In a patch owners of Black Shark 2 and A10C will get them integrated into the game as can be seen...

Looks great but sounds like what would happen if a Cessna & a Herc had a baby plane :D