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AbortedMan 04-22-2012 06:15 AM

Convergence unit of measurement?
 
I read somewhere that convergence is in meters while gunsights are in yards...is this true? Should I be making the unit conversion in my sights?

Verhängnis 04-22-2012 06:36 AM

That's true, however with gunsight you should just set it to suit the wingspan of your target aircraft at a certain distance, then that distance when the reticle encompasses the enemy that is the distance for your convergence... uh I think..

kristorf 04-22-2012 06:51 AM

As a rough estimate to convert from Yards to Metres add a third again and from Metres to yards subtract

Robo. 04-22-2012 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by AbortedMan (Post 413069)
I read somewhere that convergence is in meters while gunsights are in yards...is this true? Should I be making the unit conversion in my sights?

Yes - loading screen is in meters
Range in game is in yards
Wingspan in game is in feet

For 150 yards, enter 136 / 136 in the convergence settings (136m = 150yards), then in game set your gunsight to 150 yards (range). Wingspan 32ft for 109 and adjust to whatever you will encounter.

AbortedMan 04-22-2012 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Robo. (Post 413119)
Yes - loading screen is in meters
Range in game is in yards
Wingspan in game is in feet

For 150 yards, enter 136 / 136 in the convergence settings (136m = 150yards), then in game set your gunsight to 150 yards (range). Wingspan 32ft for 109 and adjust to whatever you will encounter.

Just the confirmation I needed. Thank you.

Osprey 04-22-2012 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by kristorf (Post 413079)
As a rough estimate to convert from Yards to Metres add a third again and from Metres to yards subtract


A third? A yard is over 90% of a metre, not 66%

albx 04-22-2012 02:40 PM

1 yd = 0.9144 m

klem 04-22-2012 03:40 PM

I believe all measurements in the sim are in metres: Plane convergence settings, icon distance, dotrange etc.

The only time its different is in RAF aircraft where gunsights are set in yards (could also affect RAF bombsights, not sure). Decide on your preferred shooting range, say 200yds. This converts to 183 metres which is what you set in the Plane Gunsight convergence. In the Hurri or Spitfire cockpit set the gunsight range to 200yds. Don't forget to set the wingspan too, default is 30 feet (Me 109 is 32 feet - I think all wingspans are in the manual).

EDIT: ooops I missed Robo's post. Same story.

SlipBall 04-22-2012 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by klem (Post 413225)
I believe all measurements in the sim are in metres: Plane convergence settings, icon distance, dotrange etc.

The only time its different is in RAF aircraft where gunsights are set in yards (could also affect RAF bombsights, not sure). Decide on your preferred shooting range, say 200yds. This converts to 183 metres which is what you set in the Plane Gunsight convergence. In the Hurri or Spitfire cockpit set the gunsight range to 200yds. Don't forget to set the wingspan too, default is 30 feet (Me 109 is 32 feet - I think all wingspans are in the manual).

EDIT: ooops I missed Robo's post. Same story.


Is it possible that the German planes is in feet?...I don't think you can save a value below 100, whatever 100 is:confused:...you see I would like to set to 70M

klem 04-22-2012 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by SlipBall (Post 413287)
Is it possible that the German planes is in feet?...I don't think you can save a value below 100, whatever 100 is:confused:...you see I would like to set to 70M

If you mean convergence, the RAF gunsight range will only go down to 150 yds (164m). You can set wingspan from 30 feet upwards.

If you are setting range to 70m then just get right in close, fill the circle (Bf109), squeeze the trigger and close your eyes :)

fifi 04-23-2012 12:29 AM

Sorry for this noob question :confused:, but where do you set your convergence and wing span ingame?
I figured out how to set the gun sight though...

Insuber 04-23-2012 05:44 AM

Convergence is in the plane setup menu, with gun belting.

Wingspan is a setting of the gunsight, you must do it while in the cockpit, by playing with the knobs below the reflector gunsight.

Cheers,
Ins

fifi 04-23-2012 07:47 AM

Ok! Thanks Insuber :grin:

Plt Off JRB Meaker 04-23-2012 08:25 AM

From early days I wrote down on a post it note the wingspan measurements of the enemy aircraft in COD and stuck it on my monitor.

It surprising how quickly you remember these measurements when looking at them everyday.But it was also reasuring having them there to act as an aid memoir.

As regards convergence,whilst being interview a few years ago Pete Brothers from 32 Sqn said that he would have his convergence set at 50 yards which is an amazingly short distance.

He said that he would make surprise attacks,get right up close and then blast away,having to do this to make up for the poor knock down power of the .303 rifle round that made up the Brit ammo in his Hurri.

The Brit RAF command did not like this idea,in 1939 the std convergence was 400 yards,which obviously carried over into 1940.I think they allowed the aces to do as they pleased and would turn a blind eye to this practice.

klem 04-23-2012 09:26 AM

Initially it was a roughly rectangular pattern (I think about 4' x 4') at 400 yds to give 'the average pilot' a chance of hitting the target. It was later reduced to point harmonisation at 250yds.

I can't locate any official documents just now but this may help:
http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=v...rgence&f=false


The ammo loadout is interesting but I know that changed quickly to include DeWilde incendiary when it became available. TBH my loadout does not include Ball, I use 4xAP, 2xTracer/Incendiary and 2xDeWilde and I imagine that may have been frowned on, possibly even due to cost.

Osprey 04-23-2012 09:41 AM

You can't set it lower than 100m in game anyway, so I set 136 and close the sight to 150yards.

Plt Off JRB Meaker 04-23-2012 09:48 AM

Yeah.......you're right,I should have pointed this out,50 yards to us is pretty acedemic in COD.

SlipBall 04-23-2012 10:12 AM

Game restriction to 100m is not historically correct...bugtracker anyone:grin:

Plt Off JRB Meaker 04-23-2012 10:16 AM

Agreed............surely it would'nt take much for the devs to correct this.


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