Do you want patch to be released this week even if not perfect?
 

Luthier mentioned a few weeks back that they had considered releasing the patch while it still had some glitches.

With only (comparatively) minor issues to still sort out do you think they should release it this week and allow us to have the benefits while work continues on the final issues?

Benefits: near doubling of fps
ctd issue fixed
maybe others?

Downside: particles glitches still not resolved

We´ve been waiting for so long, 1 week more or less doesn´t matter...

NO!

Take the time to do it correctly.

If the patch is seen by the fangs and claws types here as having a blade of grass out of place the wailing and gnashing of teeth will be unbearable.

Who said it was going to be 1 week or less? I would prefer it to be released now and they can continue fixing the bugs. I don't believe for one minute that all the bugs are going to be fixed in the next patch and some people want to be able to play the game for now. I can tell you that it will take more then 1 week to make the game 100% like the poll suggests. I think this patch will address a few issue, but it's mainly a fix for the FPS.

I haven't voted yet myself.

The big downside of releasing early is that the devs are likely to get it in the neck unless it is PERFECT.

The only possible "get out" might be if the community, after maturely weighing up the pros and cons (:rolleyes: yeah, I know...) were to decide that they were willing to accept some imperfections.

In that situation the devs could be 'let off the hook'.

For that to work I think there would need to be a big majority of people prepared to accept some remaining flaws.

I think they will just have to get used to the game having some remaining flaws, but I don't think it's about that. I think people just want to be able to play the game they paid for. My main issues with the game was the FPS and i'll be happy to see that fixed. I know the game will still have bugs, just like every other Game/Program and Ant Hill.

I would like the patch now. IF, they have fixed the CTD's. That is the NUMBER 1 show stopper. I can handle the slight lags with particles, Even the terrible FM's. I jsut want to be able to climb to altitude and get ina fight without CTD with only 4 planes in a fight. Besides they can alsways realease another patch when they iron out particles. As that is a patch worthy subject all its own.

Trouble is though.... everyone has different No1 showstopper ;)





Give the developers time to get it as best they can, without harrassment... then release a Beta patch, address any items found there and release the patch proper after that

Potnoodles hit it on the head, even when they releases the "finished" patch, there will be so much stuff wrong that they will catch just as much grief for releasing it now. Sorry thats just the way it is.

And im sorry but id like to stop CTD ing right now.

I just dont want to chance any corruption from the 'iffy' patch messing up the 'final' patch... It will still be 'finger's crossed' when it is released...
:-|

Silly Question …

This game is a mess because it was released before it should have been, don’t repeat the same mistake. Your juggling hot potatoes with this title, don’t release the patch until it is ready.

launcher.exe=?
If this one is fixed, then i prefer to have the next patch now, and i dont care if i have some "glitches", like grass in my cockpit!

It would be a terrible strategic move. Their reputations are riding on it. Not just the usual ones you may know their names. But everyone involved will not even be able to list all this time on their resumes. They will wait until its done even if that means you continue to wait well into summer, fall or next winter. They have one bullet and they are going to make good use of it. And that isn't pacifying forum trolls. It's still a business and people have jobs and rely on their leadership for good stewardship of their careers so their families can eat. Not to pacify us.

S!

Can wait some more, there are other games to kill time with meanwhile.

+1

I do agree that the CTD:s in multi player is the main problem now, the FPS is good enough on a high end rig at least. But terrible FM's? Having flown IRL since 1985 I can't name another sim that feels more real to me at least, even though there is for sure stuff that needs work like high altitude behavior... Do you have any candidates that feel better than CloD?

If they just have a week or two left they might as well wait (and no, I don't mean "two weeks be sure" ;)). If it's more like a month or two I agree that an alpha version would be nice so we can play online at least...

/mazex

Depends what the patch contains. If it is the graphics patch then yes let us have it now because there will be some of us that will find glitches that don't show with the beta testing. You only have to look back through the history of il2 to see the posts that arise with members finding things that don't work under certain conditions. We are all going to become beta testers anyway just like the last 12 months so lets get on with it.

What he said.

I'd rather wait a few extra weeks for a 100% patch than have a patch that borks things even more.

Yes Now

The biggest bug of the new graphics engine is the stencils, the transparented labels. Luthier (or BlackSix) said, – among the others – there is no Revi, and no tracer (yet). I don't call it "small glitches", and absolutely not pre release-status.

+1 to release the final beta only!

Hey, everybody complained the game was released too early and unfinished, why should we change our minds for the patches?

If we think about it realistically, the beta won't be perfect anyway. If it kills the online crashes it could be better than what we have now.

Like someone said before, I hope we don't have to wait this long again for the bug fixing patches. Also, like someone mentioned earlier, we've waited so long now so the point of caring/being excited has long since passed, 1 week, 1 month blablabla....

all said.

Nothing is ever perfect, releasing an unfinished patch is really not going to help their cause given past events, the performance patch is supposed to address the CTD issue but releasing early could bring other unforseen problems and the crowd here will really go for the throat if that happens.

I vote (and voted) they fix everything they can before releasing the patch.

If they release it when they think it is perfect, there will probably be a few minor flaws they missed. If they release it when they know there are still flaws left, there will be those major flaws plus the unexpected ones. It's just good sense to get it as right as they can.

Sure I can wait :)
Got invited for alpha and beta, World of Warplanes/Planes :D

Hellz to the No! It should be complete at least to the point where there are no CTD, FPS, Particle Issues, everyone who says now, well your just all idiots, i understand that you want what you paid for, but whats the point? your pretty much asking to release yet another unfinished product, than you'll come on here and bitch about something else thats wrong with it. let them do their job, make the patch correctly and just deal with it, you waited this long why should it matter anymore how long they take, go play something else in the meantime than when you come back to this once its finished it will be like a birthday gift.

Hi gents,

its better to wait for a Great Patch which everybody loved. As one patch how break down your "good" CoD.

We have wait soooo long, so we can wait a little bit more. Because Men´s under Stress and the Result is a unaceptable Result.

Guy´s you are make a great work for us. Take your time, and do it better;)


Thank you so much for your time and nervs:)


Greets from Germany

Towarisch



Ps: Sorry for my poor english

People are entitled to have another opinion without someone resorting to calling them idiots? You need to understand that this wasn't just an unfinished product people complained about when it was released, it was an unplayable product and still is for many people. People just want a game that they can at the very least play. I don't think they are really bothered about an unfinished product given the fact that most games have bugs.

Beta patch and proper patch a couple weeks later?

I have some extra time off this weekend, so I'd rather have some sort of patch. :lol:

I prefer the betapatch now (if launchercrashes are fixed)!
Nobody have given us a release date, maybe we must wait another year for the patch, who knows?! Better now then sometime!

I think the results of the poll speaks volumes..

We have waited this long, introducing something else to moan about isn't going to help anyone..

From a personal standpoint..fixing performance isn't and wasn't my big gripe with this game

release when it's done, even if it takes another half a year. I am tired of quick fixes.

Yes beta pls

Maybe everyone would be totally blown away by the doubling of frame rates and happy to get the ctd fix? There are some pretty big pluses already in the bag here.

Also, for the remaining glitches with particles - they are already there now. It's not as if the game will get worse with the patch.

Basically, we get BIG fixes and improvements, along with one thing that is no worse than we're already putting up with now.

For those who can barely run the game now or are annoyed by the ctd issue 6 more months (as some have suggested) is a long time to wait.

<Devil's advocate off>

I know what you mean here Bewolf, but that is actually quite funny...:)

I just hope the admins don't see this and report back that people are willing to wait forever for this game because they might just grant you your wish. I come back to the point that even when the patch does come out that the game will not be 100% fixed. I think it would be a more of interesting vote to ask people if they think the next patch will fix everything, and if they don't think it will then what is the point in the patch been delayed?

If CTD is fixed...I want it
 

Everyone has a different showstopper....maybe so....I would argue the CTD is pretty broad and is No 1 for most...Particle slowdowns? I don't see that

Heh, I suppose =)
But let's say it this way, I think one propper patch may solve huge range of issues, while a lot of smaller ones will give the whiners here more ammo for months of complaints just because their own specific individual demands are not met.

'Maybe' your right..

I'll not install any alpha-beta patches, I'll go only for 'gold' version. No time and no fancy to mess my pc with unofficial things.

Beta means Beta, even RC's are not perfect.
I voted YES because with all the community crash logs and reports there stands a chance the problems will be identified easier.
That is the idea of a beta, its not a sneek peek.

My plan too.

I'll simply do other things with my gaming time till an official release happens.

Uh, wake up, there never will be a 100 percent patch. Everthing is gonna be perfect? Im sorry, but that is not possible. Isn't this a beta patch?:confused:

Give me my money back or give me patches on a weekly basis with improvments
 

It would be good to see a better flow of beta patches that we can install try and revert back to Release candidate, if its not working out, Uhh personally i have lost a little hope, i don't know if you all remember release day but are friend particle BUG was right there every time u pulled the trigger the plane came to 1 fps and shit hit the fan, If there back to that then the problem will never be fixed and the expansion will be a stand alone, No more Bob and they will take our money and let this Peace Die, so sad really such a great game to be left to Die with out support like back in the good old days Ohh i miss those times. Now we need some lawyers to SUE these Crooks for Releasing and taking our money, and now using that money for there next ventures. really whoever is making these decisions Really messed up and should be fired and if its the creators of this game, Really Such a shame. Wonder how there feeling about the grief knowing That we know they ripped us off.

No really, Thanks for fixing the issues in a timely manner, thanks for The aggravation, thank you for everything i hope the Metiers Hit you guys first. and that some one Sues the shit out of your for false advertising, Selling an inferior product, and advertising of a game that is not finished. Really a shame. i am totally Disappointed in all of you.

Jimmy Totally Disappointed and cowering away from the big bad man that punched me for my money. :confused:

Give me my money back $$$$$ enough Lies. enough Lies.

Everybody knows they have a special machine that you put a coin in, enter the desired functions in the menu and press the green button and out pops a beta patch, it's not like they actually have to code it themselves.

I think the people voting for a 100% fix are the ones that are going to be moaning. I would go with the lower vote while the going is good and you still have people on your side. I am speechless that people think this will ever be 100% fixed... Stand by for some major disappointment if people are expecting this will be fully fixed in the next patch.

I think we should 'run a book' on what will be the next last minute glitch, :grin::grin:

I think we should `run a book' on how long before you are banned again.

No, ofcourse.

Then again, it is not other people`s responsibility to think for you. Too obvious that the question is just about the patch going gold, not about it being perfect. Even now there are few ppl that seem to know what kind of patches are we supposed to get. Graphic overwrite patch, CDT patch, particle patch, color patch, yuk.

Maybe most ppl want just the CDT fixed and itll be ok. Maybe some ppl won`t touch this game until the colors get changed. Maybe some will still find CloD next to useless because of lack of coop/online interface.

When I think of 100%, I imagine that which I can expect. And that means double the FPS and CDTs gone overall. Anything below that and I`ll be disappointed.

The thread was made because the OP wanted to know if people would except an early patch and wait for the other bugs to be fixed later - Whatever those bugs may be. This has got nothing to do with it going gold because it was always going to start out as a beta patch for us to test and most people know that already. I would like to know what the people voting 100% really think and except from this next patch. Did they vote 100% because they expect it to be fully fixed?

I voted yes because I made that assumption, that is, I could peek the beta and keep the current version if the remaining glitches are important. But I must admit that reading the original question, I could have voted no.

My biggest concern with this patch is that the developers thought this "new graphics engine" was a quick fix.
I think they traded a set of bugs for another and lost half a year and a bunch of advanced features in the process.

I feel it.. Hope it isnt the case though :o

I see into the future!

This is supoosed to be a beta.
Betas are bound to have errors.
he longer it takes in being released, the more critic I will be with it.
Please release it.

How about telling us exactly when it 'will' be released......oh and Fridays lotto numbers would be nice too ;)

Oh ive done all the release date predictions years ago.... lotto numbers im still working on :grin: