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kevchenco 03-22-2012 03:14 PM

GeForce 680GTX released
 
Seems like it has the edge over the 7970 and has a similar cost.

Let the price wars begin!

Raggz 03-22-2012 03:37 PM

Mine got shipped today so i'm getting it tomorrow. Gonna be fun checking out the new features, especially the turbo boost :)

Flanker35M 03-22-2012 03:37 PM

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Seems to be a nice card. Would be nice to see benchmarks from simulators and both cards on a PCIe 3.0 specced Ivy Bridge system :) Good to have choices, both cards are strong ones more than adequate for gaming today :)

Katana1000S 03-22-2012 03:43 PM

Ordered one today too but I'll likely not get mine until Monday.

Raggz 03-22-2012 03:44 PM

I will put out some numbers from IL2 COD and ArmA 2 w/Ace sometime tomorrow night.

Flanker35M 03-22-2012 03:46 PM

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Raggz, please do with settings used! Really waiting for the results! :D

Raggz 03-22-2012 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flanker35M (Post 401707)
S!

Raggz, please do with settings used! Really waiting for the results! :D

Will do. Just received sms from postal services that my package will be delivered tomorrow afternoon.
I will run tests on IL2 COD, Arma 2 and Red orchestra 2 and i will make a comparison with my current gtx580.

Jatta Raso 03-22-2012 04:39 PM

judging from the reviews/bench it's clearly below HD 7990 and a bit under GTX 590.. i'd say it kinda fills the gap between the GTX 580 and GTX 590

335th_GRAthos 03-22-2012 04:58 PM

Here is a review (sorry, I am reading the German one).

http://www.tomshardware.de/geforce-g...te-240979.html

Oh, Trvdi was kind enough to find an English presentation of the card and I admit, his comments about adaptive Vsync technology seem to be good news:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=YCuejLSnvjU
http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-680-review/

As I had posted last month, this is supposed to be the intermediate card (the real high performance core will appear in August). For this reason it has only 2Gb :(
Despite that, the performance is a big improvement compared to the GTX580

~S~

Raggz 03-22-2012 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jatta Raso (Post 401768)
judging from the reviews/bench it's clearly below HD 7990 and a bit under GTX 590.. i'd say it kinda fills the gap between the GTX 580 and GTX 590

There is more to this card than all the talk about performance.
Turbo booster which helps removing bottlenecks in the core when it's needed, adaptive v-sync, hardware FXAA and the new TSAA which will be available in upcoming games. It also has a better cooling system. These and the PCI 3.0 support are the main reasons i trade in my beloved gtx 580.

And for a single gpu card to be almost on par with the dual gpu cards available is definitely a good sign :)

Guru3d has released their gtx680 review. Looks good :D
http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-680-review/1

kendo65 03-22-2012 08:09 PM

Some nice features - I like the sound of the Frame Rate Target ...and Adaptive VSync

Jatta Raso 03-22-2012 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raggz (Post 401809)
There is more to this card than all the talk about performance.
Turbo booster which helps removing bottlenecks in the core when it's needed, adaptive v-sync, hardware FXAA and the new TSAA which will be available in upcoming games. It also has a better cooling system. These and the PCI 3.0 support are the main reasons i trade in my beloved gtx 580.

And for a single gpu card to be almost on par with the dual gpu cards available is definitely a good sign :)

Guru3d has released their gtx680 review. Looks good :D
http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-680-review/1

i got a bit confused, as benches show one thing and then it's advertised as being as good as 3x GTX 580.. there's more to it then benchies no doubt about it but there's a freaking disparity of views on this one.

i'm also curious about your bench on CLoD with the GTX 680, no one ever uses it to measure GPU performance..

Codex 03-22-2012 09:18 PM

Looks like I'll be going nVidia after many years of ATI / AMD.

Now I'll wait to see how the new patch plays out and then I'll be off to the store.

Flanker35M 03-23-2012 05:00 AM

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Only reason I would jump to 680GTX from 7970HD is that it would increase the MINIMUM FPS in games drastically, not only 5fps or so. A few FPS is not enough, it has to be a lot. I run VSync + 60Hz monitor at 1920x1080 so my target is 60FPS with no dipping or stuttering which I pretty much achieve now with my 7970HD. Add to this the upcoming patch and we will see how performance settles.

Will negotiate with local computer store to get one 680GTX and pit it against my 7970HD in my rig(see signature). Then I could see how it performs in games I play..no synthetic benches or boring FPS games :) Nevertheless seems to be a good card!

CWMV 03-23-2012 05:32 AM

Doesn't look like its too much better than the 580.
Think Ill just get another 580 to run in SLI as this will hopefully drop their prices a bit.
But it is so new and shiny....may have to splurge.

335th_GRAthos 03-23-2012 07:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flanker35M (Post 402001)
S!

Only reason I would jump to 680GTX from 7970HD is that it would increase the MINIMUM FPS in games drastically, not only 5fps or so. A few FPS is not enough, it has to be a lot. I run VSync + 60Hz monitor at 1920x1080 so my target is 60FPS with no dipping or stuttering which I pretty much achieve now with my 7970HD. Add to this the upcoming patch and we will see how performance settles.

Will negotiate with local computer store to get one 680GTX and pit it against my 7970HD in my rig(see signature). Then I could see how it performs in games I play..no synthetic benches or boring FPS games :) Nevertheless seems to be a good card!


So you would like to trade your 7970 for a 680GTX Flanker, that is interesting.
I hope you have success, I would be very keen to hear your judgement after using both cards!
I was waiting for the patch before going to the shop to get myself a 7970...


The real NV monster card will come in August (and a 680GTX 4Gb is also in plan).


~S~

Flanker35M 03-23-2012 08:40 AM

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Athos, I had a discussion with my parts dealer and we agreed to let the dust settle a bit before making the jump. And this testing on my rig would be useful for me. Could for sure see if I would gain anything by going nVidia. I like the 7970HD a lot and 680GTX seems to be a strong good card too. But as it seems a few FPS does not warrant any changes in my rig..yet :D I would rather jump to the PCIe 3.0 Ivy Bridge to get maximum performance out of the 7970HD..but again will that be so much of a difference. That is why I wait for Raggz posting his results so much!

Raggz 03-23-2012 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flanker35M (Post 402045)
S!

Athos, I had a discussion with my parts dealer and we agreed to let the dust settle a bit before making the jump. And this testing on my rig would be useful for me. Could for sure see if I would gain anything by going nVidia. I like the 7970HD a lot and 680GTX seems to be a strong good card too. But as it seems a few FPS does not warrant any changes in my rig..yet :D I would rather jump to the PCIe 3.0 Ivy Bridge to get maximum performance out of the 7970HD..but again will that be so much of a difference. That is why I wait for Raggz posting his results so much!

Coming in late tonight depending on delivery time or in worst case tomorrow morning. Already benched with my gtx 580 to compare with. So now... i just wait, wait, wait, wait... this day is going to be painfully long. I'm always like a kid on christmas when i got something new incoming :D

335th_GRAthos 03-23-2012 10:32 AM

Nice one Raggz,

Can you please give us some info, what kind of graphics resolution you play the game currently?


~S~

Raggz 03-23-2012 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 335th_GRAthos (Post 402075)
Nice one Raggz,

Can you please give us some info, what kind of graphics resolution you play the game currently?


~S~

my rig is in the sig and i play in 1920x1080 on a 27" LCD with every gfx setting on maximum. Also enabled 16x aniso in the nvidia control panel.

Raggz 03-23-2012 07:00 PM

Ok, so i had a few runs with the GTX680 and IL2 COD.

Settings:

GTX 580 running 1920x1080 all gfx settings on maximum. Vsync Off.

GTX580 Black death track:
Minimum fps: 1 (bomb hitting runway where the hurry takes off)
average fps: 36
maximum: 112

GTX680 same settings only with Adaptive v-sync ON.
minimum: 14 (bomb hitting runway where the hurry takes off)
average: 48
Maximum: 72 (this is adaptive v-sync in the works)

3Dmark11 scores (doesn't mean shit but here they are anyways) ;)
Using the extreme setting
GTX580: 2160
GTX680: 3219

A few words.
I am quite impressed on how the new v-sync methods are working but the new Turbo booster is the big one here. I tried a big mission over london with about 100 planes and i could clearly notice when the turbo kicked in and gave an instant fps boost from 10-20fps depending on altitude. At low altitude i was roughly steady on 20-25fps, and i'm talking rooftops altitude. With gtx580 it wasn't playable at this altitude as it gave me about 10-12fps.
Even though 20-25fps is abit under the limit i can at least get the hell out without losing control or crash due to fps lag.
Over london i had a minimum of 19, average 49, maximum 74. Adaptive v-sync on.

If Nvidia really has a bigger boy hiding out there for a summer release it will surtainly kick some serious ass because this card is fekkin brilliant.
And also. The new cooling system is awesome. I can hardly hear the card on full load. I actually had to take a peek in the case to see if the fan was running. Absolutely stunningly low sound :)
Gonna try out ArmA 2 and RO2 now. Posting more results later tonight :)

335th_GRAthos 03-23-2012 08:35 PM

Excellent news Raggz,

Thanks for posting so quickly! :)


Flanker,
Your ATI 7970 running 1920x1080 all gfx settings on maximum. Vsync Off,
what do you get at the Black Death????


~S~

Flanker35M 03-23-2012 08:49 PM

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Just ran Black Death at 1920x1080 with Very High preset in IL-2. SSAO, Epilepsy Filter and VSync was off. Results below.

Min: 6FPS
Max: 132FPS
Avg: 52FPS

I clocked my CPU to 4GHz just for testing. Next gonna crank the 7970HD to 680GTX clock speeds or as close as possible it has without the boost.

EDIT: Overclocked 7970HD, but saw no real increase or maybe my GPU/Mem ratio was wrong. Need to re-check it.

vranac 03-23-2012 09:16 PM

Thanks for posting results so quickly Raggz.
Enjoy in your new toy :)

But could you please try one run w/o adaptive Vsync, just for testing.
I understand that this is very good improvement for real use,
and I'm glad that it is working well.

And maybe you can put that 3930K beast at least on 4 GHz w/o turbo ;-)
I'm shure that you just need to change multi in BIOS.

Codex 03-23-2012 09:27 PM

This is good stuff.

I'm curious why Flanker gets a higher ave rate than Ragz with AMD, given that Ragz has a higher speced system and both are running the same res.

@Ragz ... do you have SSD?

Flanker35M 03-23-2012 09:31 PM

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Propably because I did OC my CPU to 4.0GHz from 3.3GHz. I do not think SSD helps that much. I prefer to run the track a couple of times so the textures load into memory before running the benchmark.

mcler002 03-23-2012 09:49 PM

ah the silence...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Raggz (Post 402363)
If Nvidia really has a bigger boy hiding out there for a summer release it will surtainly kick some serious ass because this card is fekkin brilliant.
And also. The new cooling system is awesome. I can hardly hear the card on full load. I actually had to take a peek in the case to see if the fan was running. Absolutely stunningly low sound :)
Gonna try out ArmA 2 and RO2 now. Posting more results later tonight :)

Plus one on the noise, my old gtx 280 would buzz away and make the room feel like an oven!!! My card got up to 80oc and only used half the fan speed! Really loving this card, shall certainly think of either an sli set up or trade up to an rog if and when in the future. Ross start saving!!! Lol

Raggz 03-24-2012 12:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vranac (Post 402415)
Thanks for posting results so quickly Raggz.
Enjoy in your new toy :)

But could you please try one run w/o adaptive Vsync, just for testing.
I understand that this is very good improvement for real use,
and I'm glad that it is working well.

And maybe you can put that 3930K beast at least on 4 GHz w/o turbo ;-)
I'm shure that you just need to change multi in BIOS.

OC'ed to 4426mhz and turned off v-sync. The rest is the same settings and i got these numbers in Black Death:

Minimum: 10
average: 53
Maximum: 142

Shows that both the cards are up to par with another. At least in this game :)
God i love this card :D


Here's a screenshot of another run in Black Death:

http://steamcommunity.com/id/raggz/s...956?tab=public

Flanker35M 03-24-2012 05:43 AM

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Raggz, exactly my thoughts :) And we can test more after the patch! BTW..how do you like Ivy Bridge and X79 chipset? I am really hard pondering getting that, but again will the gain be enough to warrant the higher cost? What do you think?

Raggz 03-24-2012 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flanker35M (Post 402480)
S!

Raggz, exactly my thoughts :) And we can test more after the patch! BTW..how do you like Ivy Bridge and X79 chipset? I am really hard pondering getting that, but again will the gain be enough to warrant the higher cost? What do you think?

I upgraded from I7 950 X58 chipset and i don't regret it one second. But it is a lot of money. Hard to say for me if it's worth it to you.

It's damn fast and i'm loving it. Everything just pops up.
Asus SSD disc cache is very nice to. I bought a 60Gb SSD for that and a 240gb SSD for favourite games.

Katana1000S 03-24-2012 09:03 AM

Thanks for the feedback, looking forward to receiving my GTX 680 on Monday :)

Flanker35M 03-24-2012 09:04 AM

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Yah, that is what I have been reading that owners of Z68 or similar will not benefit that much except maybe the memory going quad channel and PCIe 3.0 support. I think I will wait a bit on the GPU change..the patch will tell what to do.

Raggz 03-24-2012 09:42 AM

Here's the numbers for ArmA 2.

ArmA 2

1920x1080 all settings on very high except AA which is on high. Visibility set to 6600m.
benchmark 01 is used.

GTX580

Minimum: 14fps
Max: 34fps
average: 21fps

GTX680

Minimum: 20fps
Maximum: 63fps
Average: 35fps

A really good boost here :)

Codex 03-24-2012 10:21 AM

Thats an decent boost alright.

Katana1000S 03-24-2012 09:48 PM

Have you tried the card with Rise of Flight if you own it? I'm keen to know how the GTX 680 fares in this sim.

I'm on Z68 Sandy Bridge 2600K @ 4.8GHz here, my sig is a joke of course :) But I've read even the GTX 680 2GB cant saturate PCI-e 2.0 bandwidth so I'm guessing I'll have no problems with my GTX 680 (that replaces a GTX 570 SC 1.3GB BTW) when it arrives on Monday.

Looking to the future, I'm not too sure if I should wait for Ivy Bridge or just go for a current Intel X79 socket 2011 platform that does have PCI-e 3.0 with an expensive but apparently very good six core i7- 3960X and jump to 16GB from my current 8GB ... I'm surprised to read that Ivy Bridge wont have a six core CPU after all and they might not be such good overclockers as expected? But I wouldn't be surprised if there was finally a six core Ivy Bridge CPU sometime down the line and mega expansive too.

But for sure once my GTX 680 arrives on Monday the next hardware purchases will be two more 28" LCD's ... I've been toying with triple screen for a long time and at one point even had two GTX 570's in SLI ready to do it, but decided against it and sold one 570.

I've read the 680 can do triple screens from the one card even with 2GB just fine.

mcler002 03-24-2012 10:21 PM

Was hoping to do the same...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Raggz (Post 402499)
I upgraded from I7 950 X58 chipset and i don't regret it one second. But it is a lot of money. Hard to say for me if it's worth it to you.

It's damn fast and i'm loving it. Everything just pops up.
Asus SSD disc cache is very nice to. I bought a 60Gb SSD for that and a 240gb SSD for favourite games.

Darn i was thinking/ hoping to upgrade to the new 2011 sockets (similar set up to yours)... couldnt shift my current gear without losing too much money... o well

Katana1000S 03-24-2012 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcler002 (Post 402649)
Darn i was thinking/ hoping to upgrade to the new 2011 sockets (similar set up to yours)... couldnt shift my current gear without losing too much money... o well

The more I read about it and think about it, I'm starting to think X79 socket 2011 Sandy Bridge E really is Flight sim nirvana with a good overclocked six core CPU and waiting for Ivy Bridge might not be the best bet? if its true that Ivy Bridge wont have a six core CPU and not as overclock friendly as Sandy Bridge, then I'll stop waiting for it and go for X79 as soon as I get my two extra LCD's together for my GTX 680 ... I'm not sure how many cores IL2 CoD can make use of? but my main other Flight Sim is FSX and it will make use of six cores as will Prepar3D once they release v 2.0 that I hope to use in the future considering that MS Flight is just a game.

PS: The longer you hold on to your current hardware the less it will be worth in the future, but you are probably having no problems in sims just now, only the impatient like me want to constantly upgrade I guess?

Troll2k 03-27-2012 01:08 AM

It looks like a 4 gig model is on the horizon.I can not read Chinese but you can plainly see GTX 680 4 gig.

http://www.expreview.com/18897.html

Codex 03-27-2012 03:51 AM

Has anyone overclocked the 7970 at all?

I'm curious because of the specs b/n the two cards. It would "appear" that the only thing holding the 7970 back is it's core and memory clock speeds. If it was overclocked to be closer to the GTX680 levels, I think the 7970 would beat the GTX680 due to it bigger bus size.

Ataros 03-27-2012 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Troll2k (Post 403231)
It looks like a 4 gig model is on the horizon.I can not read Chinese but you can plainly see GTX 680 4 gig.

http://www.expreview.com/18897.html

Chinese is easy :)
http://en.expreview.com/2012/03/26/g...red/22013.html

And 4GB from EVGA http://eu.evga.com/articles/00669/#GTX680FTW

Ataros 03-27-2012 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Codex (Post 403250)
Has anyone overclocked the 7970 at all?

I'm curious because of the specs b/n the two cards. It would "appear" that the only thing holding the 7970 back is it's core and memory clock speeds. If it was overclocked to be closer to the GTX680 levels, I think the 7970 would beat the GTX680 due to it bigger bus size.

Here are some graphs for OC'd 7970 http://www.3dnews.ru/video/626473/index2.htm (scroll down for game tests).
I think you can find same in English.

Flanker35M 03-27-2012 04:07 PM

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Codex..I am currently running my 7970HD at 1000/1450MHz. Totally stable and keeps cool still. I really have not noted the "noisy fan" all the reviews talk about. Checked temps after IL-2 session and they were a tad above 60'C..

vranac 03-27-2012 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Codex (Post 403250)
Has anyone overclocked the 7970 at all?

I'm curious because of the specs b/n the two cards. It would "appear" that the only thing holding the 7970 back is it's core and memory clock speeds. If it was overclocked to be closer to the GTX680 levels, I think the 7970 would beat the GTX680 due to it bigger bus size.

Here is the test with both cards OC'ed to max:

http://vr-zone.com/articles/asus-gtx...e/15322-5.html

Maximum clock will vary from card to card, but i think that in general gtx680 has a bit better OC potential.
Also GK104 was produced as performance chip, not high end.
That is obvious from ~300 mm^2 chip surface and 256 bit memory bus.
From the leaks before release it may be concluded that in first nvidia
planned to name it 670 Ti

http://www.techpowerup.com/162901/Di...X-670-Ti-.html

Probably when they got first samples, realized that they can clock it higher then expected and beat 7970 at least at 1980 and 2560 resolutions,
so they finaly realised card as gtx680.

Codex 03-27-2012 08:06 PM

Quote:

The lackluster compute performance and inferior memory bandwidth will hurt the GTX 680 in multi-screen, maxed out image quality, high end gaming.
Very interesting. Now given that I use multi-screen but don't overclock should I go for the 680GTX or 7970? (Would be waiting for the bigger memory version of the 680)

BigC208 03-27-2012 09:05 PM

I have ordered the GTX680. It should be in later this week. I was wondering if anyone here has tried out the FXAA anti aliasing in Il2CoD with the latest drivers.

Raggz 03-27-2012 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigC208 (Post 403471)
I have ordered the GTX680. It should be in later this week. I was wondering if anyone here has tried out the FXAA anti aliasing in Il2CoD with the latest drivers.

Doesn't work. And i don't think this game supports FXAA yet. Maybe with the new gfx engine. One can hope :)

TheEditor 03-28-2012 08:15 PM

Be lucky to have SLI and Crossfire.:rolleyes:

Raggz 03-28-2012 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheEditor (Post 403740)
Be lucky to have SLI and Crossfire.:rolleyes:

Uh... What?

TheEditor 03-29-2012 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raggz (Post 403742)
Uh... What?

Someone mentioned something about FXAA. I'm talking about the patch...

BigC208 03-31-2012 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheEditor (Post 403919)
Someone mentioned something about FXAA. I'm talking about the patch...

I mentioned it earlier. I now have my gtx680 up and running. It works like a charm. FXAA enabled in the nvidia 3d control panel and no AA enabled in game. Looks very good and no fps loss. 55-60fps across the board. Still slowdowns into low twenties when close to explosions and debris. Have not yet overclocked it. Can't wait fo the patch. Should be smooth as silk when it arrives.

CWMV 03-31-2012 09:33 PM

Any word yet on 4 gig version release date/price?

Raggz 04-01-2012 01:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigC208 (Post 404588)
I mentioned it earlier. I now have my gtx680 up and running. It works like a charm. FXAA enabled in the nvidia 3d control panel and no AA enabled in game. Looks very good and no fps loss. 55-60fps across the board. Still slowdowns into low twenties when close to explosions and debris. Have not yet overclocked it. Can't wait fo the patch. Should be smooth as silk when it arrives.

It's like the ordinary FSAA in game. It seems to work on some things and others not. FXAA works the same way.
Could you please show me some screenshots with FXAA on and off because it sure doesn't work for me. No difference at all comparing FXAA with FSAA 2x, 4x or 8x.

BigC208 04-01-2012 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raggz (Post 404649)
It's like the ordinary FSAA in game. It seems to work on some things and others not. FXAA works the same way.
Could you please show me some screenshots with FXAA on and off because it sure doesn't work for me. No difference at all comparing FXAA with FSAA 2x, 4x or 8x.

I'm away from home for the next few weeks on vacation so will not be able to take screenshots.


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