My fianl letter to 1c
 

HI!

well this who i am and this is all i have left to say. im not going to post anymore in this forums, become they dont serve their purpose anymore ( we cant communicate with the developers, nor they communicate with us. so... )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...v=iBNe7DjXjpU#!

pardon my english.

and bye all!


edit:

...already broke my promisse dindt i?

To all those who insulted me: you missed the point of the video.

and to all of those who are telling me to grow up, i wont. This is who i am, and honestly. i ahve no problem about it.

and im not about to break up in tears, tough i admit, that would have been nice.

and to those who tell me to "get a life", well, i have one. as you can see, i have a guitar in the back, i like to play the guitar. i liked to play il2 too. those were my 2 favorite hobbies. im sorry im so passionate by my hobbies. my third hobbie is university. my dream is to become a pilot ( still working on that)

after all this is not a message to you, but to luthier. i spammed it here in the hopes he actually would see it. it may not be very mature to "spam the internetz with my feeligns" but its far more mature giving my face in a forum than just spamming post over post with complaints and member attacking. i have done it and im sorry for it. hoped everyone here "fanboys and whiners" would actually stop doing that, and only said what they would if theyre face was in it, not an avatar.

Bye!!

if people would communicate in a civilized and constructive way to the developers, then a 2 way productive dialogue would have been possible (eg listing specific problems and fixes needed)

since this forum was overwhelmed by 12 year old with an IQ lower then my dog, dont be surprised a heavy hand was needed to keep the riffraff under control. the constant whining, bitching and a selfish rude attitude by spotty faced teens from the "me me me" generation has had a very counter productive effect here.

Problem is the riffraff havent been kept under control, and its already started to affect the new found communication we were getting from Blacksix. 90% of the posts seem like garbage and gibberish unrelated to the game really. Sorry to the OP, I wont even bother playing the video, because I am sure its about as original as all the other posts in this forum.

Sry, but this is just one part of the problem. Many fanboys come here and spam threads with posts like "Luthier, you're the greatest" etc. while the game isn't even running properly. How do you think this is going to help? Get rid of your pink glasses, for CloDs sake.

So constantly asking the same questions that have been answered time and time again helps? Constantly bitching about things helps? You've been told they are completely re-writing the graphics engine, hired an AI guy, working on FM's, working on the sequel, that they are planning on working on this sim for years to come like the other IL2.

So coming here crying like a 10 year old is helping things? They are working on the major issues with the game. What more do you people want? Do you need your hand held every second for you to know this? Grow up.

Bye!

I have been very frustrated because of the following:

1. I paid full price and received half a game. In fact, before CLoDs release we were teased with many features (like pilot animation) that never made it into the game.

2. The developers have either not communicated at all or grossly misrepresented the progress of the promised fixes and game enhancements. All credibility is gone and it’s their fault, not ours.

3. We who love combat flight sims waited for years for CloD to be released and hoped it was going to be the Holy Grail of the genre. Instead we got a half finished, buggy mess with no solution or logical path for its completion. And instead of dedicating EVERY available resource to getting it fixed and delivery the game we were promised and paid for, we're getting updates on the sequel that I for one will never buy.

C'mon peeps. They are re-writing almost the whole game and this alone doesn't make a bell ring in your head?

Even though the release probably was a desperate move doesn't mean it was the right move. I have to agree with the OP to a certain level.

The game wasn't even close to finished at release and still it's being defended. It doesn't matter if it's been mentioned a hundred times. It's still the fekkin truth.

I gotta say. Flightsim communitys are the pickiest in the world but god are they forgiving when it comes to defending the genre they love.

Salute pupo162

Well said...

Spot on !!!!

Your #1 statement is the reason why? Traditionally, folks get paid on Friday and not Monday.

Manche Leute nehmen sich selbst einfach zu wichtig. Pardon my german.

Bye.

Well said but i will probably buy the sequel because i'm stupid and still have an ounce of hope. If that hope is crushed with the sequel, then i'm done with the game permanently.

Fair play OP youve got a point but no point in posting it here, your get the same replys as any other bashing this game or defending it for that matter..

It's them who messed it up, not us. So I don't have to pray for his kindness to give us a patch. They've misled us, long before the release. And I have the strong feeling they're still hiding the truth.

What ever you can say abt being childish etc... at least he did express his opinion in mature way and in a language we can all understand.

Even if individually we can't agree with all what he says, still it is a constructive comment only by this way.

So thumbs up PuPo.

I hope however you will change your mind soon.

Oh... I thought the years of developemental updates showing virtually all the features we see today with a big "WIP" stamped on them showed me the sim wasn't finished. Words like "place holder" and "not optimized" really rang my bell back then. I take it you never looked at the years of updates before buying? It's kinda like the same people that are crying over the tanks/AAA/vehicles, when Oleg was shown manning and firing a AAA gun 5 years ago, vehicles over 3 years ago.

Perhaps you should have paid attention to the years of updates? Or maybe you should have waited to purchase until some reviews were out? The writing was on the wall for a heck of a long time. The reason people like me defend it is because we know it's going to be supported just like the old sim was. That means the major problems getting fixed/finished etc. Just like the updates have said the dev team is working on.

All your points are redundant and non constructive at this time, we all paid the same amount, we all have the same game. At some point guys bitching about the same things ends up being worse than any problems the game has.

Jump on the ATAG servers, I am having a blast there, minus getting shot down all the time :)

Nothing was shown early that depicted the mess this game was in at release. The is a HUGE difference in performance issues,bugs or poor AI compared to features that doesn't work at all or even missing. They re-wrote parts of the GUI, they are re-writing the sound engine, radio commands, graphics engine and what not. Now show me one video or even a pre-view depicting that mess.
As i see it, all the WIP was indeed the final product. If it was so they should have stamped it final, not WIP. Period!

Awww bless, he looks about ready to cry.

Nothing? What do you think WIP means? I'll spell it out for you - WORK IN PROGRESS. Well just so you know, that means that they are still working on it / it's not finished which coincidentally happens to be your main point in the post I replied to, where you said the bell should ring the game's not finished. Well, no sh!t sherlock. That's what they were saying all along. Wow @ some people.

The only thing I even remotely think was said was finished as in "this is final" was Luthier's response to the way the tracers look. Other than that every single feature I remember seeing - even the pre-release trailer had a huge WIP labeled on it. I don't know what else to say other than wow.

well said pupo, i want to do the same but now i shere your words

You made a video complaining about a videogame of which you paid 70 Euros for "not that you care about the 70 Euros" and you're disappointed because it isn't perfect?

If you don't enjoy it then don't play it; but don't make silly video's and post them for the world to see. I have a feeling that you'll be back once the patch is released with a new list of things to whine about.

Meh, much ado about nothing, really.

I'll ask the same question that I often ask in MMO-forums when people toss out an "OMGZ IM LEAVING!"-thread: Why not just go silently into the night? Few people care what your reasons for leaving are, and most of us have heard them a million times before.

I'll leave you with the following statement, that has rung true far, far often than not:

/arnold-voice

You'll be back :cool:

/arnold-voice_off

I expected him to start crying.

Bye, don't let the door hit you on the way out...

Maybe you should watch the news once in a while and put things in perspective!

Get a life.

Thank you and goodbye!

Quoted For Truth (+1)

Don`t let me catch you flying BoM one day then.

I dont need a crystal ball...
 

Original il2 was continualy improved from the start and so is CoD. IL2 destroyed the competition and maybe thats the issue for many, not having a competing ww2 cfs to say "man il2 is way better than..." empowers some to compare it to itself early in development which for any new cfs is just not fair or healthy for the genre.

Fact: Ten years from now the sim may not be "finished" (thats a good thing cause I think Silent Hunter 5 is "finished")...

Now for those that complain on the forums everyday about the same stuff I wonder why, how fun can that be? I'll tell you one thing, no matter how buggy CoD maybe at this moment, flying CoD is lot more fun than flying the forum:!:

+1

Quote:
Originally Posted by ATAG_Bliss
So constantly asking the same questions that have been answered time and time again helps? Constantly bitching about things helps? You've been told they are completely re-writing the graphics engine, hired an AI guy, working on FM's, working on the sequel, that they are planning on working on this sim for years to come like the other IL2.

So coming here crying like a 10 year old is helping things? They are working on the major issues with the game. What more do you people want? Do you need your hand held every second for you to know this? Grow up.

+1

Its unfortunate people haven't gotten over the fact the sim was released unfinished, and that its going to take time with a few setbacks to finish it. Yes people paid full price for an unfinished game. Yes the developer should have told us just how unfinished it was, but some people just aren't intelligent enough to see the big picture. Maybe thats a bit harsh, but some posts certainly make you wonder. Maybe they are intelligent, but are just too young, with not enough life experience, in the land of instant gratification. Very complex sims like this are going to take time and require patience that some in the newer generations are just not wired for. If it weren't for the early release there wouldn't have been a release. It may yet be canceled, or it may turn out to be the next benchmark, time and patience will tell.

Can we make fun of you when you come back?


JD
AKA_MattE

OH THE MANATEE!!

There`s one good side to this. I get to finally see his idiot face and tell to myself "yeah, I thought you looked like that" :D

I thought it was easy to think up, but I guess there is dire need for people like you to point things out for others.

If the sim won`t get patched up to spec, it is going to die no matter what fanboys do. So far though it is much further from dying than some unfortunately would like it to be.

I'm sure with all the fixs this pilot animation will be working great!

'tis true, indeed :P

Brave shot pupo162, at least you expressed your views in a calm manner, but don't expect any sympathy from this bearpit. While I don't agree with you (we just have to wait) I can understand your frustration.

Take a break, come back after the next patch.

Carguy and alike:

Pls get a walk in the park and refrain your personal insults.

Very mature....

Can everybody just calm down here and take a minute to think? Pupo is clearly a fan of the series just like anyone else here. Why otherwise would he put up a video where he pours his heart out about a game series that he loves? Yes it's only 70€ but that's not what it's about, it's about being passionate about something (IL-2 series in this case) and caring about it, nobody gives a poop about 10, 40 or even 70€! It's sad to see the community come to this, fans p*ssing on fans. It's a whole lot about expectations too, some people expected more from a new series (including me) whilst some would've been happy purchasing a brick with a 1c sticker on it and then defend it to death. Maybe pupo is just a kid but at least he showed considerable more maturity than most of you who replied in this thread, feces slinging 4 year olds you are. You really have to p*ss on everyone who doesn't share your exact opinion don't you? What are you "people" thinking anyway?! "Ahaa! that person doesn't enjoy this game as much as me! that is not acceptable and he must be told his opinion is wrong!" Bigots.

+1

Actually I think the proper response for this thread is...

Can I have your stuff?

Ok, you can lock it now :)

No, I think he needs to grow up and wait for the next update.

Or, if growing up is not an option, leave quietly so that I am not tempted to make fun of someone who is almost in tears over a game.

Sorry, you are wrong. You choose to defend a drama queen that`s your choice. It was his choice too, to show his maturity. Yeah, announcing to the whole world how he feels. Very thouthful and mature. ;)

You'll be back, you will be back... :razz:

Although David here is a little blunt :) The forum is starting to resemble an MMO forum... yes, that is an insult just in case you never spent any time on an MMO forum ;)

Hi.
Sorry, but a good Sim need´s TIME. Time and a many quiet nerv. CoD is a good Ground Sim for a many other Updates or other Cathegories of this War Scenery.

AND: A good Work need´s Time:grin:

Last: They works on it.


Towarisch



PS: Look out....... IT`S SPRINGTIEME:)

Does anyone happen to have a receipt or product package that has clearly stamped on it, xx$ for Work In Progress (WIP). Not many products and I mean products, are sold to the general public as a WIP, and just for the record anyone who purchase this game and is not satisfied with it has a right to complain as much and as often as they like, just like you're complaining about them complaining. The more the problems are keep in the front the more likely they are to be addressed. So keep complaining even if it's about the same issues and maybe just maybe they'll get tired of hearing it and fix the problem. Lets you forget, this is 2012 and not everyone wants/willing to wait another 5-7 years to get a product that's usable to them, the key words here is "usable to them". TC

Thank you for pointing out the obvious logic.

Bash them until they get tired and fix it ...

+1

Yes, much like a 5 year old will ask "are we there yet" until his parents are finally forced by his whining to actually drive "there".

Who knew that the "are we there yet" strategy was so effective?

+1

I see exactly where this OP is coming from. I DO play on the ATAG server, but have had my fill with the game after SEVEN launcher crashes in 2 hours, doing all the so called "fixes" to try and avoid another launcher crash. The FANBOY is strong with this forum. And as stated above, the box didnt say WIP. Hence it should work. Yes there are always bugs. But game wrecking crashes that go on for a year ofter release? Come on. You gotta be yanking my chain to get mad at a guy that is unpleased with the game at this point.

Im with the OP, while Ill stay on the forums (mostly cause I like a good fight) I dont blame him one bit for leaving this steaming pile. Or these forums filled with blind adoration for a broken mess.

Am I looking forward to the patch? You betchya, because just like you, i love WWII combat flight. But you can only drag my wallet out so for so long until I tell you to get bent.

+1

Do you have any SIM products you are going to part with?? PM me.

im disgusted by some comments in this thread, by people who pretend to be "mature"

As if anyone cares... I remain optimistic about COD, since I have been assured by direct communication from the developer that they are still working on it. If the message from them comes to 'funding withdrawn, sorry folks that's it' I will be disappointed, and I will think twice about buying their next product. I already kick myself for buying another title from UBIsoft after the SH5 nonsense.

I think the OP was OK, he seems like a nice kid, managed to keep the swearing down to a couple of words and he is obviously frustrated, but there was a little too much 'I want' yadda yadda for me to take him seriously, but after all he's just kid, they do tend to do that. He has his opinion and he shared it, and a video does avoid some of the misunderstanding that can result from reading messages. It was certainly less extreme than some posters have been here. No need for hating on him, he has a lot to learn and the time to learn it. I would be more sympathetic to someone like my dad who has probably a year at best left in him, and might never get to see the work completed.

A forum can only be as good as its members and there has been some truly foul behaviour round here of late. Whatever your opinion is, personal insults and plain ad hominem attacks show only one thing, the bad attitude of the poster. Call me a fanboy or a whiner all you like, but try to remember exactly how much of a shnizzle I give, which is exactly none. If it really bothers you that much, then you could quite likely benefit from professional help, behavioural therapy, anger management, whatever it takes. Life is too short to worry about a videogame, chalk it up to experience and vote with your wallet in future. For the life of me I can't understand why people are continuously baiting each other here, If I ran these forums I would seriously consider just getting rid of this one, and letting people get their updates from non-interactive sites or through Steam. The forum is a privilege, as is the channel of communication with the developer, neither of these things are a right no matter what you were 'promised' or what you paid. Try to be grateful for it, as I am. ;)

Regards, Sam.

Show me one piece of software that has never been patched because it was perfect at launch, it is a very sad state of affaris that we live in times where it has become the norm for software to be released before it has been fully tested or is at all ready for release. Yes, CoD was in a far worse state than 99% of releases but please, do not attempt to make out that it is alone in it's stable, there are plenty of games that come close, Skyrim on the PS3 comes to mind instantly.

If you feel the software was not suitable for purpose then it should have returned it to the point of purchase long ago.

Buyers have every right to complain about it's faults and indeed they should complain, but the continual repitition is going nowhere apart from inflaming the community especially when we know it is being worked on.

Your loss

PS see sig

so a mature person is some one over which age??? cause most post are calling him a kid, and saying him that his not mature, so there's a certain age when you can call yourself mature??? he just expressed his thoughts and feelings about the game which aren't so far away from what i feel, and i can run the game perfectly, but as pupo i feel cheated by the devs, it also make me remember the stunning video of CFS 3 back in the days to see that the game wasn't that, the promo video of CloD did something like that showing you something that wasn't what you will get as soon as you get the game installed.

So please all the guys insulting and p*ssing on him, be a bit mature and show some respect when any body else thinks different as you think

potz

Salute

+1

I heard you mate, even if Luthier dont. I hope I see you in the skies, take care mate.

Droopy

So now the ones constantly babbling on and on and on about the same s**t over and over and over again are the mature ones and the people that's sick and tired of hearing the same s**t over and over again the immature ones (the state of affairs at this point is irrelevant and yes you heard me saying that)


What is this, the twilight zone?


And if anyone regurgitates the same old bl**dy "arguments" as to why they are disappointed, so help me good ill scream.


P.S. To the OP, what's so hard to understand? They are working very hard to make CloD into what we ALL expect. Why do you feel a need to send a message to Luthier, do you actually think he will respond? Trust me, he wont. He and the team are to busy working. You are not expecting an answer, you already have the same information all the rest of us do. Maby you are dissapointed but the reason some "mock" you is because enough is enough. Its tiresome because this "sharing of opinions" has been going on for months now and it WILL NOT make things happen any faster, period. Just dont think you are alone in bringing allot of people to the brink of an emotional breakdown, your not. Your post is just the tip of months and months long barrage of the same crap repeated ad nauseum. Except the facts and live with it or take, as you say, a break, a long enough brake to make you realize that there are more important stuff to waste energy on in life. All the people complaining did have a chance to return the DVD and get a refund (dont know how it is where everyoneelse lives but here its a right by law, so no excuses if you dont return it) but instead they choose not to and instead infested every forum remotely linked to flight sims acting like victims and "normal", for lack of a better word, people are fed up with it, period.

Report bugs etc by all means but leave the "victim" attitude at the door, short and to the point is all that's needed, or wanted at this point.


My request to all who is fed up is this: Dont post in any thread that you KNOW will derail because of for mentioned reasons, if you don't those threads will be very very short and monotonousness.

+1

He got b*lls and my respect. No matter whether he is right or not. Respect his opinion and himself !

It is how most of us feel.

The handful of fanboys keep having to ramp up their efforts to make up for the increasing number of dissatisfied customers. Of course most of the latter are no longer around.

For issues please contact 1-800-*&%#-$!*&
 

Too Cool, come on man...realy? You mean to tell me that you have purchased even 1 game...just one! That hasnt needed a patch... or 10?

Please read original il2 patch list for the past ten years....thats alot of fixes or would you call that support? Me thinks the latter.

You see this isnt Madden 09 or somthing thats "support" dies after one year.

Now if someone has a complaint, I get that but call ubisoft or somthing or the complaints department, everyday.... I mean why here on a forum meant for people who are interested in ww2 combat flight sims for the pc? Besides if you think thats going to help the shrinking cfs genre your wrong.

Finaly: Look, ww2 cfs's are never finished day one or even year one and most people are enthusiest of the genre and know that from experience(i.e. all the other ww2 cfs ever made) Thats why you get those people going out of there way to counter balance the daily effort by some who dont even like the sim.



pps: I went to lunch and had this post paused, funny "Danno" almost had the same response,

Baron and your not? Quote " Its tiresome because this "sharing of opinions" has been going on for months now and it WILL NOT make things happen any faster, period" :confused: So only your opinion matters ?

the harder everone wines the less there will be communicated!!!!!!!!!!!!

Simple heh!

It is not only about communication it`s about deliverence also. The game have to be fixed!!!:rolleyes:

Hi Pupo162,

Does this mean you will stay on the forums? I hope so because I thought your vid was OK, fair enough you have your opinion (I disagree, but so what) and you shared it in a reasonable way. I liked that you used a video, you are not afraid to put your face to your words.

What guitar style do you play? I love guitars better than videogames! I play acoustic steel old rock&roll for now, Eddie Cochran, Elvis and stuff. Hey, here is an idea, make a song with your opinions and make it funny then post another video! :grin: The developers appreciate music, remember the banjo kid?

Regards, Sam.

For the love of all thats holy!!

Im out.

Thumbs up for you Pupo! You have balls! More balls then the most of the so mature and hyperintelligent posters here! You stand to your point of view and that's OK and most of all it's your damn right as a customer! Respect!!
Forget all these opportunists!!

I'm sincerely troubled by the gesture of a young man who arrives to post a video message to shout to the world his frustration for a videogame that fails to meet his expectations.
I immagine everyone in this community is an aviation enthusiast, for some of us flight sims are (luckily for those) an extension of their working live (I personally know some pilot, aviation specialist, aviation historician who are modelers or flight simmer in their spare time); for others I suppose these hobbies are a surrogate of a working live that they wanted to live. I put myself in the last category, I'm a modeller and flight simmer since I was 8 old, I would have preferred to be in the first category.
What I would say is that, for what is my experience, in every community related to the single hobby (model planes static or dynamic, model railways, naval modelling or aviation artworks) I have witnessed how high the frustration among hobbyists can rise, mostly among adults. Crashed marriages, sons parked in front of Pc's to gain some hours to dedicate to beloved hobby, people in to debt to buy tons of plastic kits, adult coming to blow for contending a third place at a competition...I saw a lot of slaps fly around...
This video is too much for a videogame...is too much like those in which some madcap announce well other gestures and I stop here.
Pupo has to be respected, like us, primarly cause we are customers and 70€ for a product are not the same if spent by a young man or spent by senior professional, or related to a 2500-3000€ average salary in Germany or 400€ average salary in Serbia.
@Pupo, hey mate dont leave the community! Join some server waiting better times!
Cheers

This ^^ should be put on a huge billboard.

Here's a thing...I don't care any more.

My patience has been used up. I loved IL2 but I don't have an infinite amount of money or time to waste of this pile of rubbish.

Their poor attempts at communication show nothing but contempt. It takes a few minutes to address the main issues people have compared the time it takes to put together a few screen shots...although lets faces it..the latter hardly takes that long either.

I've completely lost faith and interest. I'm annoyed that I wasted so much money (not the 50 bucks but the thousands on the PC I built for this sim plus the stick, throttle and TIR). I've accepted it is wasted money but that is the end for me. If I don't get a good representation of the BOB then I will be buggered if I am spending another penny on some eastern front stuff that interests me little...I had 7 years of the eastern front. I don't want any more.

And please bear in mind how many people upgraded their system as they believed in the fairy tales from the east. Who cares about € 50,00 for the game if the minimum requirement on the box is an ironic joke ? I spend additional € 300,00 for an EVGA GTX570.....

Anyway, I bought IL2 COD on March 31st 2011. I will uninstall and trash the game exactly one year later. God thanks I can't sell it or give it away even if I would find an idiot who would be willing to get it for free ;)

I would of rather seen one of those funny "Downfall" spoofs made instead of this video to get your point across. Why hasn't someone made another one of these yet? :)

I bought an Asus G73S which cost £1600. The initial release I knew would be poorly optimised so I wasn't too bothered plus I could cost it to my business but still I did spend that much on a laptop so I could play CLOD. When the beta was released in July/August that re-wrote the sound etc I was impressed enough to then build a new PC. This cost well over £3000 including the GTX 580, i5, SSD and then I bought a HOTAS Warthog and TIR5 and pedals. For a few weeks I was reasonably happy until they released the official patch which did nothing but introduce the memory leak.

This is why I am annoyed and to hear comments like "we might not post any more updates because of negative comments" is enough for me to get annoyed.

Most people don't care about BOM...we want to hear about the fixes we will see which will give us a simulation of the Battle of Britain and all that was promised before the release.

Blame that on 1C aswell lol
Another cheated customer logic example.

Keep em coming :D

?! What you back already? I admit, I didn`t expect you return so quickly. You must be proud of yourself.

Maybe I can give you a hand and make sure you keep your promise - maybe an IP ban will do? :D

I think he was crying, for one he doesn't list his system specs, he's messing around in the conf.ini which Ilya told us not to do, he thinks having a bunch a guys who are not familiar with this very complicated code can just start messing around with it, he's not being very realistic. Ubisoft pushed the game out the door, send them the hate mail. I wish I could get those 6 minutes back:(

Now Ubisoft are selling the game for £14.99, less than a year after it came out, and that's the collectors edition. I know, I bought it.

That was fast.



JD
AKA_MattE

Nice Pupo. Something different, a rant-video about our favourite hobby.
What can I say?
By being quite an optimist, I should actually say: Thank you 1C!
For you've finally broken the chains that kept me so glued to my PC station for so many years, and having let me free again!
I don't play IL2 '46 anymore since CLOD came out, as it looked so old all of a sudden.
I very very rarely played CLOD for obvious reasons, and now I honestly don't play it more than 2/3 hours a week.
RoF is simply great, but WW1 is not really something for me.
All the other simulations and games annoy me hugely and fastly...
And so, I must say that indeed life out there is beautiful, and I am discovering other interesting things and hobbies that I never thought I would be interested in.;)
I am starting actually to live a fuller and denser social life, and all this thanks to you!
In a way, you've done me a tremendous amount of favour. :cool:

And.. I am actually not joking too much to be honest.
Cheers

Sounds like you are getting laid.


JD
AKA_MattE

Lol..

Gota love Gamers :)

Do you play on or off-line?

Are you going to make a video about it?

Are you going to continue to be a d*ck about it?

The game is broke. The updates are lacking.

a "goodbye" thread that hits 9 pages in less hours. gotta love this place.

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After this it gets a little bit more complicated!

OOOps!

That should have been

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How embarrassing! ;)

:grin:

main() needs to have a type and also a return value!

Maybe you should write a poem about it.

One thing that many of the blind defenders of devs may don't know is that the way that original Il-2 code and i'm 99% sure this actual CloD code has been worked/written during the development, if any of you had the knowledgement on some basic coding and took a look into original Il-2 java files you will quick notice that the code is a mess, clearly you can see that many people during the years worked over it no one respect others work, creating a new function for the same action during the develop of a patch or sequel, may you will say who are you to say that? how you are sure of that? but many here knows our work on Il-2 modding and i can say while working on many of our mods we found a really mess in the code having tree diferents functions for the same action, while you start working lots of hours with the code you can see how unorganized the codding in Il-2 was during the years as the new coder didn't respect what other did in the past, IMHO this is why CloD code has to be rewritten, and why we have such a buggy product now, so this is why many people are mad about the product state, and even if they want to express what they think about it other start to flame them for doing that like if 1C devs are kind of gods and can't be inquired why the game isn't working after 8 years of development.

whit this words the only i'm looking is just that both "defenders" of 1C and lads with negative feedbacks and frustration respect each other most from the first half that every time that somebody isn't happy with it and post it about it seems like they deserve to be burned for heresy.

So please respect other opinion and if you don't share it shares your in a kind way, not attacking and flaming

Potz

Well said OP. I totally understand.
They can say "its being fixed/rewritten!" all they want, but that means sweet frak all to us right now.

I vividly remember a few people telling me that CoD is the future!
Too bad its not even remotely close to being the present.
The sycophants will do what they always have, deny and defend.

If you voice your opinion in a disrespectful way, you can`t possibly expect other people to tolerate such behavior. It is a simple difference most of you whiners are unable to perceive.

but if you reply to that disrespectful way in a polite way, you can expect an apology :rolleyes:

no Carguy, they can perceive it... its what they do at home (to their parents) to get their way.

Having said that, let me just say (politely)... you all fell for a whinge thread - yesss, that's right right folks - another whinge thread.

+1

one more thing: this guy sided his face with his thoughts knowing he would be flamed anyway, that takes some courage and i respect that; courage that these few usual suspects don't seem to have... or it's so easy to play smart behind the keyboard

Déjà vu...

Agreed +1 for balls, plus i agreed with pretty much everything he said.