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Richie 03-17-2012 07:48 PM

Why I hate war
 
She'll explain.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Px3zI...eature=related

speculum jockey 03-17-2012 08:44 PM

So is this being implemented into CLOD? I'm curious because you posted it in the IL-2 Cliffs of Dover section.

Jaws2002 03-17-2012 09:08 PM

We are savages and deserve everything coming our way.

Sternjaeger II 03-17-2012 09:14 PM

this forum is SO out of control :shock:

ATAG_Snapper 03-17-2012 11:02 PM

OK, I smell a rat! LOL

The narrator, a young British girl, is shipped out of the city (London?) as many other children were to avoid the Blitz. In her temporary adopted country home she mentions seeing reports of devastation in her neighbourhood on the telly. They even show an early model television in the video clip as she narrates this.

AHA!!!!!!!

According to Wikipedia, in the 1939 - 45 timeline, only major city centers in England had television service, certainly NOT on some distant country estate! I saw this on the internet, so it MUST be true! ;)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timelin...n_in_countries

Luffe 03-18-2012 12:28 AM

It doesn't have to be during the Blitz in england, it could be anywhere.

The girl sounds australian..? Gaesmaesk. Haeppy. etc.

I couldn't find a shrugging smiley.

IvanK 03-18-2012 01:26 AM

Kiwi I reckon :)

AndyJWest 03-18-2012 03:05 AM

The voice is clearly a modern child. So what? The basic facts are correct. Do some research. Or ask anyone who went through it. My mother did.

But yes, the reference to TV is wrong. The BBC stopped broadcasting TV entirely during WWII.

Snuff_Pidgeon 03-18-2012 03:13 AM

Definately a Kiwi.. Not Australian.

JG5_emil 03-18-2012 04:24 AM

Thank god..I though this would be a Kony video

salmo 03-18-2012 05:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luffe (Post 400184)
It doesn't have to be during the Blitz in england, it could be anywhere.

The girl sounds australian..? Gaesmaesk. Haeppy. etc.

I couldn't find a shrugging smiley.

I agree with IvanK , the girl narator sound like a Kiwi (New Zealander).

Luffe 03-18-2012 06:04 AM

Ok, Kiwi then. Thanks
It was just hard for me to understand some of it, because of the accent.

Volksieg 03-18-2012 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by speculum jockey (Post 400140)
So is this being implemented into CLOD? I'm curious because you posted it in the IL-2 Cliffs of Dover section.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II (Post 400144)
this forum is SO out of control :shock:

To be fair... this is posted in the Pilot's Lounge. ie the section of the forum where people are encouraged to post off-topic threads.

Just saying..... :D

drewpee 03-18-2012 11:06 AM

Sounds like the great Kiwi/Aussie Pavlova war. ;)

5./JG27.Farber 03-18-2012 11:41 AM

Smells like the aftermath of a emotional saturday night drinking binge to me...

Tavingon 03-18-2012 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JG5_emil (Post 400199)
Thank god..I though this would be a Kony video

LMAO same here mate:cool:

ATAG_Snapper 03-18-2012 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Volksieg (Post 400213)
To be fair... this is posted in the Pilot's Lounge. ie the section of the forum where people are encouraged to post off-topic threads.

Just saying..... :D

It was MOVED to the Pilot's Lounge AFTER the comments were made. Just sayin' :rolleyes:

Sternjaeger II 03-18-2012 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Volksieg (Post 400213)
To be fair... this is posted in the Pilot's Lounge. ie the section of the forum where people are encouraged to post off-topic threads.

Just saying..... :D

there's been a number of off topic posts that were posted on the main forum and have been moved to the Pilot's Lounge, hence my comment ;)

the impression one gets though is that the continuous disappointment caused by the lack of info and patches is sending this place into oblivion.

I think they really have no excuse anymore, and they know it. Anyway, let's sit and wait, and if you really get bored, there's a fantastic Do-17Z that has been released for IL-2 which is superb!

ATAG_Snapper 03-18-2012 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 5./JG27.Farber (Post 400252)
Smells like the aftermath of a emotional saturday night drinking binge to me...

Kumbaya, my Lord, kumbaya.......<Snapper wipes a tear from his eye>

Volksieg 03-18-2012 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II (Post 400273)
there's been a number of off topic posts that were posted on the main forum and have been moved to the Pilot's Lounge, hence my comment ;)

LOL That's me told then. :grin:

ATAG_Snapper 03-18-2012 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Volksieg (Post 400294)
LOL That's me told then. :grin:

Ah, it ain't no big thang.. :grin:

WTE_Galway 03-18-2012 09:19 PM

What on earth is the vehicle following the cows at 2:55 ????



As far as the video itself, most likely someone has taken a written transcript of some child's diary and made it into a clip, probably as a New Zealand early high school class project.

IvanK 03-19-2012 01:42 AM

A Morgan Sporster Quadbike :)

BadAim 03-19-2012 11:11 AM

Wow, I'd have to agree that things are pretty dismal around here. You know that there are things that are more important that flight sims, right? Right guys?

Richie 03-19-2012 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 5./JG27.Farber (Post 400252)
Smells like the aftermath of a emotional saturday night drinking binge to me...

Only buy booze once a year so I can stand to be around a ton of people in a close environment. Should of put this up I guess. I don't know who can make jokes about this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVZe4...9DB265EA3288D9

Richie 03-25-2012 09:01 PM

I love this game but once and a while I feel a little guilty thinking how I would feel if my country were involved in a war that was taking place on my doorstep when completed took 2 - 3 million lives.

WTE_Galway 03-25-2012 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richie (Post 402892)
I love this game but once and a while I feel a little guilty thinking how I would feel if my country were involved in a war that was taking place on my doorstep when completed took 2 - 3 million lives.

A few more than that for WWII, a quick wiki search came up with:

Civilians killed - 40 to 52 million
(including 13 to 20 million from war-related disease and famine)

Total military dead - 22 to 25 million
(including deaths in captivity of about 5 million prisoners of war)

raaaid 03-26-2012 01:04 PM

this video makes me think about the nature of war:

if he had gone with an ak47 he wouldn last a second

but the way he did it i have to contain my tears

then of course came the news of tianamen bloody killings but this was what we all saw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_xP0WtSTww&feature=fvst

swiss 03-26-2012 01:51 PM

had he done that with me in the tank you'd need a scraper. :cool:

raaaid 03-26-2012 02:05 PM

http://www.silverbearcafe.com/private/images/hand.jpg

Ataros 03-26-2012 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richie (Post 400120)
She'll explain.

Kids do not deserve it. Sometimes I think politicians do.

Tanya Savicheva

Pre-war photo (right)
http://images.mobwiki.ru/upload/wiki...utilovsaya.jpg

Contents of her diary (9 notebook pages):

Zhenya died on Dec. 28th at 12:00 P.M. 1941
Grandma died on Jan. 25th 3:00 P.M. 1942
Leka died on March 5th at 5:00 A.M. 1942
Uncle Vasya died on Apr. 13th at 2:00 after midnight 1942
Uncle Lesha on May 10th at 4:00 P.M. 1942
Mother on May 13th at 7:30 A.M. 1942
Savichevs died.
Everyone died.
Only Tanya is left.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...heva_Diary.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanya_Savicheva

Tanya died on July 1, 1944

She was not the only one with such fate.

raaaid 03-26-2012 02:35 PM

yeah i suppose its all up to all us

myself i tried to do the worl a better place by turning away yesterday a job offer on a biodiesel company

burn corn for automotion when people is starving goes against my ethics

rather have no job and hang all day with almost no money on forums

Kongo-Otto 03-26-2012 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swiss (Post 403015)
had he done that with me in the tank you'd need a scraper. :cool:

If seen such things happen back in 1992 in Sarajevo so i find such a statement neither cool nor funny. Just saying.

Richie 03-26-2012 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WTE_Galway (Post 402916)
A few more than that for WWII, a quick wiki search came up with:

Civilians killed - 40 to 52 million
(including 13 to 20 million from war-related disease and famine)

Total military dead - 22 to 25 million
(including deaths in captivity of about 5 million prisoners of war)

No Galway you misunderstood there a bit. Sorry. I was thinking per capita of the population of Canada if it had a 10% loss as did Russia.

swiss 03-27-2012 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kongo-Otto (Post 403027)
If seen such things happen back in 1992 in Sarajevo so i find such a statement neither cool nor funny. Just saying.

Sorry if I hurt your feelings , but there are only two options.

a: not entering the tank in the first place and join the opposition
b: be loyal to the regime and do your job as commanded.

Which means I was in the tank I would run him over, maybe do an "wenden an Ort" too.
So no, there was no fun in my statement, not at all.
Btw: I know a few guys who served down there, some deserted, some didn't. the stories they brought with them - well, I'd have prefered not to hear some at all.
Then again, so's war - and humans.(and no, we are not born "good")

GraveyardJimmy 03-27-2012 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swiss (Post 403425)
So no, there was no fun in my statement, not at all.

You say this, but a bit strange to include the "cool" smiley (:cool:) in your post. Someone dying after being run over by a tank is not cool and neither is the person doing it.

raaaid 03-27-2012 07:09 PM

im not getting any conclusions

we SAW a general of a column of tanks totally impotent to a single brave student using non violence

we were TOLD studens were squized by the tanks by the thousands in tiananmem

this will be worth an amonestation

what if the invisible hand that regualates markets regulates all the rest as well, the her uncognoscible

ANARCHY rules

maybe the people you saw squized by tanks, soory about taht, really, were using violence

Luffe 03-27-2012 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swiss (Post 403425)
Sorry if I hurt your feelings , but there are only two options.

a: not entering the tank in the first place and join the opposition
b: be loyal to the regime and do your job as commanded.

Which means I was in the tank I would run him over, maybe do an "wenden an Ort" too.
So no, there was no fun in my statement, not at all.

Was the tank driver ordered to "run him over, maybe do an "wenden an Ort" ?

So you would in all seriousness run a nonviolent protester over with a tank just because you could, not because you were ordered, because you are a...deranged psychopath..?

raaaid 03-27-2012 08:22 PM

oh i bet he wouldnt i bet hes just a 25 year old kid wanting to sound tuff

raaaid 03-27-2012 08:33 PM

well maybe this is easier for you to digest according your conception of the world:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wifrTMrZiYk

well that is a FAKE

tankman is REAL

imho the world is a wonderfull place where you have nothing to fear, not even death since we are actually inmortal, undestructible and unharmable

but the mafia seeds fake terror to rule through terror

what do we need police for if the invisible hand already protect us?

edit:

i know how nuts i sound and how insane the thought that the world is perfect but the news lie it is

but isnt it a logical thought after having watched tankman and being told the opposite to what we saw with tankman happened tens of thousands of times

am i really crazy for having a slight faith in a good god and not in an cruel one?

raaaid 03-27-2012 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ataros (Post 403023)
Kids do not deserve it. Sometimes I think politicians do.

Tanya Savicheva

Pre-war photo (right)
http://images.mobwiki.ru/upload/wiki...utilovsaya.jpg

Contents of her diary (9 notebook pages):

Zhenya died on Dec. 28th at 12:00 P.M. 1941
Grandma died on Jan. 25th 3:00 P.M. 1942
Leka died on March 5th at 5:00 A.M. 1942
Uncle Vasya died on Apr. 13th at 2:00 after midnight 1942
Uncle Lesha on May 10th at 4:00 P.M. 1942
Mother on May 13th at 7:30 A.M. 1942
Savichevs died.
Everyone died.
Only Tanya is left.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...heva_Diary.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanya_Savicheva

Tanya died on July 1, 1944

She was not the only one with such fate.

thats so utterly sad, thats why i think twice before pressing the trigger even if its just a game :(

in fact at this point i cant shoot so i dont play any more :(

WTE_Galway 03-27-2012 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raaaid (Post 403484)
thats so utterly sad, thats why i think twice before pressing the trigger even if its just a game :(

in fact at this point i cant shoot so i dont play any more :(

There is always Air racing ....

swiss 03-28-2012 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raaaid (Post 403025)
yeah i suppose its all up to all us

myself i tried to do the worl a better place by turning away yesterday a job offer on a biodiesel company

burn corn for automotion when people is starving goes against my ethics

rather have no job and hang all day with almost no money on forums

Smart move, the working people who finance your living sure appreciate your decision.
However, I do agree on the general idea -but, not buying that crap should be enough and bring a soon end to this "alternate energy source".

PS:
Quote:

oh i bet he wouldnt i bet hes just a 25 year old kid wanting to sound tuff
Add 10yrs and your golden.
I actually prefer the terms Misanthrop, or, if you really want to go that far maybe sociopath.


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