Which fighter do you like most? Hurri, Spit, 109?
 

Hi there,
what is your favorite fighter in dogfihting and/or bomberattacking? Of course, every model get his own skills and weak points (speed, stability/maneouverability, arming etc.) If there would be one which is top in all aspects, we would only use that bird, wouldn't we? Or are there other aspects, which are also important for your choice? Let us know!

My personal favorite is the 109, powerfull & strongly armed, good cockpit design, especially some intruments like compass (wtf in english models), but then, once jumped into a Rotol-Hurricane, i fall in love with it. I like it's manoeuvrability, that allows you just to turn out an enemy 109 so simple (beware of his wingman!). I love also the adjustable recticle and it' s punch of the 8 close together standing Brownings which a Spit has not.
She is the diva, for sure, but I am missing something...

So, now it is up to you, tell us your opinion!

P.S. Don't forget to talk about Bf110 and G50!

109.

good speed, acceleration, turning, and over all, beautiful.

im not talking abou COD exclusivity.

Well first of all the BF-109, any variant. For the same reasons,
I like it's good instrument layout and excellent canopy view,
the best one being the squared canopy fitted to the E4 in CoD.
And of course the great combo of speed and firepower.

I also like flying the Hurricane,
but I don't really like the cockpit layout and has worse all-round view because of all the bars of the canopy,
in particular the bar which blocks direct 3'o'clock and 9'o'clock spotting.
I do not have Track-IR so for me it's a big deal :( .
Nevertheless, I really like flying it because it's so different then flying the BF109 into combat, and now I know it's weaknesses and strengths.

Interesting......
there is someone out there who apriecates the good ol'hurrie and the famous 109 and hasn't loose any word to the Spit. What is your opinion about her?
It is so difficult to bring her down with it's capacity to make very advanced barrelrolls, but flying her and to get a kill is so difficult in combination with the engine stuttering because they were only with a carburettor. (Which is the major disadvantage thing of all Merlin equipped british AC)

The bf 109 e4

There's a video out there somewhere of a pilot doing a downward, inverted loop in the spitfire. By this I mean starting level and pushing the nose forward, pushing negative G's the entire way, and then coming up around again from the bottom.

In the spitfire.

The carburettor "issues" really don't affect it very much at all.

Is that with a miss shellings orifice fitted or not? BoB pilots seem to think it was a big deal.


I started out as a Hurricane pilot :) but I was brought over to the darkside by a good pilot who showed me some of the ropes. From then on its been 109 all the way. I dont even like the FW190 that much. I like the firepower and robustness of the 110 and the odd dabble in a STUKA.

As for spits, what about them? I dont think its worthing talking to much about flight models till we get the tweeked ones, then the arguements really will fly ;)

Hi CptDoggles,
It is affecting me, while I am trying to aim at a 109 which is diving and rolling under my nose. When engine stutters
by following him I loose my speed when I can't take care about to avoid negative Gforces.

My favorite is the 109, mostly because it has that 100% MAN look that is characteristic to so many German mechanical things (Those mercedes's from the 80s, all things BMW, MP-40, luger, all panzers, etc.)

But performance-wise, I think the most notable advantage it gives in this game is its armament. Those 20mm with minengeschoss kill so fast, while in spitfire, sometimes I spend all of my ammo to down one bomber.

I have no idea, but the engine sputters the whole time, so I doubt it. The problem demonstrated by that video was that the atrocious flight model in this game doesn't kill the horsepower when the engine floods.

Agree. Currently the Spit 1a underperforms by a significant amount and the Spit 2a overperforms by an equally significant amount so until they fix the flight models it's really not worth discussing them.

The Hurri on the other hand is a good opponent for the 109E, and in good hands is a very real threat.

Yes, Farber, that's a point.
If you talk about 100 octane fuel thing, the E4 is also affected. Not to talk about the actual ingame topspeed of the G50, which is about 50kmh (?) to low (However, I love the open canopy, bella musica)

Well British Techdesign is not worse neither. The british RADAR design was superior. It helped not only to win the BOB, but the whole dammend war!
Ask "Q" about british gimmicks;)
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Therefore the Hurricane is my second favorite, better firepower

Ok then... :confused:

i love my spitties, then comes hurries *sigh*

Know what you mean. The 109 is an odd bird, jack of all trades, master of none and it takes a while to get used to ther. Then comes the "click" and you start your killing spree. I can understand how she was an Experten plane.


Thus voted 109

SPIT Ia version not on your list why?

Actually I find the 109 very forgiving. CEM in 109 is a joke compared to those in Spit and Hurries. OTOH I dislike the 110. For some reasons I cannot exceed 400kph even in level flight at sea level.
OT but is that only me or does anyone else find that CloD aircrafts are much easier to fly than in 1946?

That's probably just you :)

come on! someone choose the G50.


not me

I'm a lover, not a fighter. I like the Tiger Moth. ;)

It's a serious toss up between the Hurri and the 109. Aiming is easier in the Hurricane because the sight isn't off set. I fly with Track IR and am still not used to that in the 109 and the LEAN to SIGHT function isn't too smooth - especially when you shoot past an enemy in a boom and zoom, and you still need to track him. The reversion back to regular view is clumsy and time consuming. Unless there's another function I'm not aware of the LEAN to SIGHT is useless for me.

Barring that I like everything else about the 109. I have gotten better at turn and burn tactics with the Hurricane. I always BnZ with the Hurri in IL2. I seemed to lose my energy faster than needed if I TnB in one, but in CoD I've forced myself to try different tactics - especially because of the carb cut out on neg Gs.

I haven't spent much time in the Spit.


109 is my pick.

For combat, I'd prefer the 109, for general flying, love the G-50. Hopefully after the new FM for it comes, I will love it even more.

With the correct FMs? The Spitfire for straight dogfighting. It was better at that than the 109 except for the combat bunt. Of course the 109s didn't dogfight very much and played to their strengths of high numbers, high energy tactics and more powerful guns. But if they tried to dogfight it was a different story.

As the FMs are at the moment? The Rotol Hurri and 109s are a trade off for me, partly of 'loyalty'. Hurri for maneouverability, 109 for climb, guns and simple engine management. I fly RAF so for me its the Hurricane but the 109 is probably the better choice as they are currently modelled or even when they are properly modelled (the Merlin negative G is still way too sensitive for reasonable maneouvres, leaving out the combat bunt). The Spitfire II would probably be most peoples favourite if they put 'loyalty' aside simply because its the only Spitfire modelled near correctly while the 109s aren't (if these forums are correct). The Spitfire Is power and speed are almost laughable although handling seems to be quite good.

Why are bombers not in the list? Would you be so cind, to add those to the list? Some of us we like a good dogfight, but doing this all the time, can be qiut borring. I like a lot to do sorties in the JU88. others prefer sorties in HE111, Blenhaim, Ju87, Savoia-Marchetti S-79.

But as a fighter pilot 109. It handle great, have a good preformans speed and turns well. Good a decent firepower.

Cheers

Love the Hurricane. Always been used to the way it turns and can not settle for less. I sometimes find myself jealous of the 109 for it's speed, however!

Having said that, you can overlook that if you can have the patience to climb above the bomber formation and then smash down through it.

Not sure if I got you right, but I put only ONE choice for every fightermodel on the list,
#1 for having a poll for our opinion what shows which general design we prefer
#2 there is an obvisously performance-gap between the 1a and MK II version, which seems to be only VIRTUAL. So voting for the better virtual model is not my goal.
#3 They changed the 2speed pitch of DH 5-20 Hurricane to constant speed pitch during the battle. So why should I "allow" to vote for model/option which was "voted" for Out in RL

Hi RD-DK,
Bombers are not on the list, because the goal of the topic ist not to know which AC we in general prefer in that Sim, it is just for to know which fightermodel we prefer for special fighter Missions/ tacticals/ fighter arming layouts etc. Talking about the "Lofte"-bombingsight, for ex. would be oT.
But we can have that discussion aswell.
Come on, give us a new thread!
cheers

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thx Robert,for german-offcenterd-sight-point.

#1 to handle it better by TIR, you can offcenter your head slightly to the left und push the center-key then, this brings the sight to the center of your POW, hope this helps!

#2 The offcenter design was made to force german pilots to aime with their right (dominant) eye. The dominant eye is your "main" eye, while the other allows the stereoscopic viewing. I do archering a little bit, but "unfortunately" my dominating eye is the left as it is for many other people, too. Maybe dued to the Nazi-ideology that the "superior aryan" has allways the right eye as the dominating one. I don't know. Did they loose the battle dued this ;) ? After '45 they gave up the thing.

#3 Comparing VR against RL: As we are unable to use this gunsight in the "right" way, because of the lack of real stereoscopic view, we are reaching the limits of a Sim! As we also have to face these facts concerning the physical labour in a dogfight, pain if you get a hit, and so on. 99% accurate flightmodelling should be feasible however;)