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addman 03-06-2012 06:58 PM

What will be your plane of choice in BoM...
 
if it will be included and flyable. Personally I'd just love a CloD quality MiG-3 and/or the Henschel Hs123. How about you guys?

P.S Thought I'd just liven up the forum a bit, it's been so dead lately.

badaboom 03-06-2012 07:16 PM

P-40 or P-39

kestrel79 03-06-2012 07:39 PM

Looking forward to the IL2.

badfinger 03-06-2012 07:41 PM

FW-190A or D and ME-109G

binky9

pupo162 03-06-2012 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by binky9 (Post 397068)
FW-190A or D and ME-109G

binky9

...wish in case it is a BOM ( as in battle of moscow) simulator, wont be present...


im looking forward for the il2 and the 109F series. ground pounding is a new reality for me in COD, and the il2 was king. 109F was also king in the other department

mazex 03-06-2012 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by addman (Post 397054)
if it will be included and flyable. Personally I'd just love a CloD quality MiG-3 and/or the Henschel Hs123. How about you guys?

P.S Thought I'd just liven up the forum a bit, it's been so dead lately.

Yak-1... The only early Russian bird I would dare to fly to the front without a bottle of Vodka first ;) But there is something attracting with the Rata looking like an oversized toy plane :)

EDIT: But I have to agree that the Mig-3 looks evil with that long nose :)

BGs_Ricky 03-06-2012 08:27 PM

I-153 with some rockets, perfect to wreck havoc on german convoys.

smink1701 03-06-2012 09:44 PM

Early P-51...Cadillac of the sky, brother.

GOA_Potenz 03-06-2012 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Plt Off JRB Meaker (Post 397086)
No mate,don't worry it is'nt just you,there are many of us that feel the same way.

What you have said by frustration concurs exactly how I feel about the whole process,you are not alone.;)


+1

5./JG27.Farber 03-06-2012 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smink1701 (Post 397090)
Early P-51...Cadillac of the sky, brother.


I hate wikipedia as a diffinative source but just a quick look :

Quote:

Soviet Union
The Soviet Union received at least 10 early-model ex-RAF Mustang Is and tested but found them to "under-perform" compared to contemporary USSR fighters, relegating them to training units. Later Lend-Lease deliveries of the P-51B/C and D series along with other Mustangs abandoned in Russia after the famous "shuttle missions" were repaired and used by the Soviet Air Force, but not in front-line service.
Shuttle missions?


Bf109F :-P

PolishEagle1939 03-06-2012 10:36 PM

Yak-3

julien673 03-06-2012 10:39 PM

Mig 3

TomcatViP 03-06-2012 10:45 PM

Shuttle missions

To reach some deep target in the 3rd Reich, the B17 and B24 had to land in Russian held territories. Then after refill rest and repair they flew back in England attacking target on their way back home.

The P51 was the only fighter capable of escorting the bombers all the way and had to land on VVS base where they were ordered to handle the protection of the Bomber's base to the Soviets. Some of the mission flown from North Africa also landed in Russia.

One day a Reconnaissance Ju88/188 followed the bombers down to their Russian base and the night after the Luftwaffe flew on of its most daring night raid attacking the bombers base destroying something like 30/50 B17. It was the deadliest attack the 8th air force had to suffer.

Interestingly some of the soon to be major generals after the war of the Bomber command (the SAC) were on station at that time in Russia. It is said that the inabilities of the Soviet armed force to protect the bomber and their crew had a detrimental effect on their perception of the Russian military system that can be routed in their aggressive strategy toward the VVS in the 50's and early 60's.

There was also some missions where the bomber taking off in England flew Sth across Europe after their bombing raid down-to North Africa.

Back OT : I will flew with pleasure a well modeled I-16

6BL Bird-Dog 03-07-2012 12:34 AM

I-16 & iL2 Field Mod.

Heinz Laube 03-07-2012 01:46 AM

Ju88A-4 and Fw190

MoGas 03-07-2012 02:01 AM

BF-109F as soon FW`s arrive, FW`s all the way... :)

jamesdietz 03-07-2012 05:12 AM

I figure we'll have about the same number & type of aircraft we had in the original Il-2 Sturmovik & the same AI.We might get the Ju-88 A-4 flyable but that will probably be it for German A/C for a long time.I'll stick with my Emil, I think.Never been much of a fan for the Russian planes in Il-2,esp the first ones.
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d1...sdietz/box.jpg

Untamo 03-07-2012 05:39 AM

S!

Friedrich, until we get Gustav. I hope we get to year '42 quickly :) .. The finnish front would be nice to have.

JG52Krupi 03-07-2012 06:39 AM

Frederick until my butcherbird arrives and then it will decide upon the "bar" being present or not... ;)

Screamadelica 03-07-2012 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JG52Krupi (Post 397143)
Frederick until my butcherbird arrives and then it will decide upon the "bar" being present or not... ;)

That'll do me nicely as well.....;)

SNAFU 03-07-2012 07:25 AM

Well, I am not looking forward for the usual Ratas and Chaikas hanging around on 7-8km height slinging rockets around and I really don´t give much about the endless land mass of brown and green besides some tank pinkling with an Emil or Il2. Interesting planes like FW190, P40, P51 should actually not be part of a BoM scenerio, but a Fiesler Storch would be some fun.

I actually do not expect BoM to be released this year, and if it gets released, I would purchase it only in support and hope that some poor soul gets his hands on CloD, so we can simulate the BoB some day in the not so far away future.

41Sqn_Banks 03-07-2012 07:44 AM

Hurricane II (B and or C, hopefully with bombs) and MiG-3. Bf 109 F (-2 and -4, hopefully with bombs) for the enemy ... at least the Channel map can be expanded well into 1941 this way.

GraveyardJimmy 03-07-2012 08:35 AM

After reading the book about a female Sturmovik pilot that was linked on here I want to try the IL2 out with CEM.

The Polikarpov Po-2 would be great if it was in the game, especially with drivable tanks. In the book she had to keep landing to get directions when the fog came in or to complete orders (like deliver packages). Really short landing distance and the ability to land near the frontlines, get shelled and fly away again could make really exciting situations.

=XIII=Shea 03-07-2012 10:15 AM

mig-3 for sure

JG52Uther 03-07-2012 10:25 AM

Well I'm quite happy with me He111. An updated A4 Ju88 will be nice, but really, if they would just make the Do17 flyable I would never need another plane!

TomcatViP 03-07-2012 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JG52Uther (Post 397167)
Well I'm quite happy with me He111. An updated A4 Ju88 will be nice, but really, if they would just make the Do17 flyable I would never need another plane!

+1

The 17 would hve been a must to fly with CoD

Friendly_flyer 03-07-2012 01:41 PM

Oh, venerable old IL2, no contest!

Hurricane IIc when it come available.

Damixu 03-07-2012 01:44 PM

Bf 109 F-4

ATAG_Doc 03-07-2012 02:56 PM

I-16

zakkandrachoff 03-07-2012 03:07 PM

with this treat i know now that in this forum, are a very significant quantity of ignorant people. OMG!!!

fighters in BATTLE OF MOSCOW (October 1941 to first 1942):

Bf109 E-3; Bf109 E-7; Bf109 F-2; Bf110 C & E; IAR80 (version?)

I-15; I-15 BIS; Polikarpov I-16; Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-1; Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-3; Lavochkin-Gorbunov-Gudkov LaGG-3; Yakovlev Yak-1 and... Mk IIB Hurricanes (only in moscow and leningrad defence)

german bombers like Heinkel He 111, junkers Ju86, Ju 87 Stuka & Ju 88, dorniers Do 17, henschels, and aircraft like the Fieseler Fi 156 Storch and Arado Ar 95

Russian Bombers like Tupolev TB-7, Tupolev SB :SB-2/SB-3, and DB-3 , Arkhangelsky Ar-2
and, of course, the Ilyushin Il-2 and Petlyakov Pe-2

i beliebe that oleg need to put the russian trainin plane Yakovlev UT-1 flyable

Best fighters? Bf109F-2, Yak-1 and, in second, Mig-3 & BG109E-7

GraveyardJimmy 03-07-2012 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zakkandrachoff (Post 397200)
with this treat i know now that in this forum, are a very significant quantity of ignorant people. OMG!!!

Blacksix has said that it is not definitely Battle of Moscow, just that it is on the eastern front and will have autumn/ winter maps (though it probably will be early eastern front).

NaBkin 03-07-2012 03:39 PM

FW 190 all the way as soon as it arrives (hopefully as payable and perfectly done aircraft...) - I don't mind the "bar" at all because I think it's easy to look over it with 6DOF.

bw_wolverine 03-07-2012 04:03 PM

Definitely a P-40 if they put it in, but I doubt it'll make the cut.

kristorf 03-07-2012 04:08 PM

Hurricane IIb, either field mod or hurribomber :rolleyes:

badaboom 03-07-2012 05:09 PM

F4U.....FM2......F6F......Oh Wait!!! Wrong Theater! :)

[RS]Boomer 03-07-2012 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bw_wolverine (Post 397214)
Definitely a P-40 if they put it in, but I doubt it'll make the cut.

I really hope for a P-40... I don't think I would ever play another game :)

U505 03-07-2012 05:21 PM

Fw 190

robtek 03-07-2012 05:40 PM

I would like a P40 also








in the sights of my Bf109F4 :D :D :D

zakkandrachoff 03-07-2012 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GraveyardJimmy (Post 397203)
Blacksix has said that it is not definitely Battle of Moscow, just that it is on the eastern front and will have autumn/ winter maps (though it probably will be early eastern front).

no Moscow 1941-1942?? :eek: anyway, this thread ask for planes in BOM, soo, i am right!:-P



wish Crimea & caucassus!:???:

...and Leningrad, ...and Stalingrad! ...and all the East Front;)

109&Yak:mrgreen:

skarden 03-07-2012 08:09 PM

I'm definitely looking forward to a 109F, other then the FW-190 its one of the nicest German rides going. it'll be a hell of a lot of fun dogfighting in it with decent CEM.
Roll on the good times.

p.s. can't belive people are crappin on in this thread about the "BOB isn't even fixed yet blah blah blah" god enjoy yourselves a little for once.

Fredfetish 03-07-2012 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by [RS]Boomer (Post 397236)
I really hope for a P-40... I don't think I would ever play another game :)

Not a big fan of the RAF cockpit layouts. I also think the P-40 is much better looking than the Spit (:confused: how dare I ?!)

Were the instruments converted to the metric system or kept imperial for allied VVS planes?

Also during WW2, were there any english speaking nations using the metric system in their planes? Finding hard to intuitively interpret imperial values, but on the other hand, whilst flying German planes, I have no idea what's going on over the radio if I don't read the messages. Annoying...

Tavingon 03-07-2012 08:21 PM

Dornier 17 needs to be flyable

[RS]Boomer 03-07-2012 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fredfetish (Post 397263)
...but on the other hand, whilst flying German planes, I have no idea what's going on over the radio if I don't read the messages. Annoying...

Haha I just listen for key words like "Blenheim!" or "Hurricanes!!" and then I know to start looking around :-P

wannabetheace 03-08-2012 04:23 AM

yak-1 or mig-3 like Pokryshkin

senseispcc 03-08-2012 07:27 AM

I16 or Mig 3.:grin:

V.4_Pogi 03-08-2012 08:41 AM

The Clod BoB starting,from where in we have received the Spanish Civil War Veteran (Bf109 E3),against the most modern hunter of the Battle of Britain(Spit IIa),we may be glad then if we will get the Bf 109 E7 ;)

Anyway my favourite and I really hope that he will be in BoM: the 109 F series and my best favourite plane ever the Bf 108 Taifun.

carguy_ 03-08-2012 09:06 AM

The Bf109 Friedrich F-2 equipped with incediary ammo for wooden red crap planes. If BoM is to be realistic, this type of round will be able to torch most 1941 red planes, along with the IL2 famous for being virtually indestructible against 15mm cannon.

Fjordmonkey 03-08-2012 11:36 AM

Bf109 F-2 of F-4 all the way.

Kupsised 03-08-2012 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fredfetish (Post 397263)
Not a big fan of the RAF cockpit layouts. I also think the P-40 is much better looking than the Spit (:confused: how dare I ?!)

RAF cockpits are totally random and don't make any sense. For example, the positioning of the engine temp. gauges on the Blenhiem, or just the fact that dials that should be right next to each other (such as oil temp, engine temp, boost and RPM) are all over the place depending on which aircraft you're in. There doesn't seem to be any kind of logic or standardisation as there are in other countries aircraft. That said, I still prefer red over blue :P

Back on topic though, I'm just waiting for the I16 and the I153 (as long as it has rockets!). They were, quite a lot of the time, my main choice in 1946 even. I'd love to have seen the look on the faces of some of the 190 pilots that got bounced (and often downed) from behind by me in my I16, so I'm eager to give it a go in CloD.

zakkandrachoff 03-08-2012 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carguy_ (Post 397360)
The Bf109 Friedrich F-2 equipped with incediary ammo for wooden red crap planes. If BoM is to be realistic, this type of round will be able to torch most 1941 red planes, along with the IL2 famous for being virtually indestructible against 15mm cannon.

the tail of the hurri is made of cloth, so... in COD must have it

robtek 03-08-2012 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kupsised (Post 397383)
RAF cockpits are totally random and don't make any sense. For example, the positioning of the engine temp. gauges on the Blenhiem, or just the fact that dials that should be right next to each other (such as oil temp, engine temp, boost and RPM) are all over the place depending on which aircraft you're in. There doesn't seem to be any kind of logic or standardisation as there are in other countries aircraft. That said, I still prefer red over blue :P

Back on topic though, I'm just waiting for the I16 and the I153 (as long as it has rockets!). They were, quite a lot of the time, my main choice in 1946 even. I'd love to have seen the look on the faces of some of the 190 pilots that got bounced (and often downed) from behind by me in my I16, so I'm eager to give it a go in CloD.

If the rockets are simulated a bit closer to reality as in 1946, nobody would care about them, neither friend nor foe.
And if the FM is closer to reality as in 1946, there wont be any bouncing with I16 or I153, except in very rare and lucky circumstances.

carguy_ 03-08-2012 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robtek (Post 397403)
If the rockets are simulated a bit closer to reality as in 1946, nobody would care about them, neither friend nor foe.
And if the FM is closer to reality as in 1946, there wont be any bouncing with I16 or I153, except in very rare and lucky circumstances.

In IL2 : 1946, the Ilyushin IL-2 actually escorted the I16/I153 rocket attacks.:-P

DroopSnoot 03-08-2012 03:45 PM

The P40, because its an entirely new plane with good armament and good speed. Also its one of those "cross conflict" aircraft that once modeled unlock new theatre possibilites.
I chose that over all others because russians hold zero interest for me.

Kupsised 03-08-2012 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robtek (Post 397403)
If the rockets are simulated a bit closer to reality as in 1946, nobody would care about them, neither friend nor foe.
And if the FM is closer to reality as in 1946, there wont be any bouncing with I16 or I153, except in very rare and lucky circumstances.

Well, even if I can't they're still the aircraft I'm most looking forward to. Pre- and early war aircraft are such a joy to fly and manage, especially with the added realism of CloD over the original Il2. Then it all gets a bit boring in the middle until we get the Typhoon, Tempest and 190.

Also, with those two, the Fiat already modeled and (I assume) since the 109 is already modeled someone could mod it in to a 109C we could have quite a nice basic Spanish Civil War add on/mod. That's something I've always wanted at least.

robtek 03-08-2012 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kupsised (Post 397431)
Well, even if I can't they're still the aircraft I'm most looking forward to. Pre- and early war aircraft are such a joy to fly and manage, especially with the added realism of CloD over the original Il2. Then it all gets a bit boring in the middle until we get the Typhoon, Tempest and 190.

Also, with those two, the Fiat already modeled and (I assume) since the 109 is already modeled someone could mod it in to a 109C we could have quite a nice basic Spanish Civil War add on/mod. That's something I've always wanted at least.

I'll drink to that!!!
He51, Bf109C and D, I16 and I153 plus CR32 and CR42 flyable, and SB2 and Ju52 as bomber and on and on.....

Imbadude 03-08-2012 06:14 PM

Hello, Guys!

Did the lagg 3 see action in BOM?

Sturm_Williger 03-08-2012 09:14 PM

If the Hs123 is flyable, I will HAVE to fly it :)

What a great little plane, actually stretches the definition of Cr@pplane to call it that ;)

senseispcc 03-09-2012 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Imbadude (Post 397444)
Hello, Guys!

Did the lagg 3 see action in BOM?

Yes, the Lagg3 Mig1 and Mig3 Yak1 and Yak7 I16 I153 I152 I15 Pe2 Pe3 Sb2 Tb3 Mbr2bis Db3 Mbr2 Db3t IL2 Sb2m Yak4 Su2 Ar2 Db3f U2 Ut1 all this I could fly with pleasure.

Do not forget there where many types of I16 with many engines and many different guns.:cool:

I nearly forgot the Bi1 rocket plane but it never entered active service, bad luck.

Tanabi 03-09-2012 03:58 PM

German side
HE-177, Dornier 217 , BF-110D E F or G series , Ju-88A C S and Ju-188

Russian side

Il-2, PE-2, Tu-2, Il-4, and Pe-8

Busterbvi 03-09-2012 04:18 PM

RAF version of P-51 also FW190, Tempest, Typhoon. For bombing missions a Lancaster would be awesome !
Busterbvi

badfinger 03-09-2012 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Busterbvi (Post 397721)
RAF version of P-51 also FW190, Tempest, Typhoon. For bombing missions a Lancaster would be awesome !
Busterbvi

If you have a Lancaster, you will also need ME-110 and JU-88 nightfighters.

binky9

major_setback 03-09-2012 06:02 PM

Su 26, of course.

McHilt 03-09-2012 06:06 PM

Well, if I ever get to play these series:
I somehow love Russian planes over any other planes, but anyway as for Early eastern front: Mig-3, I-16 and Yak-1 although I'm a big fan of the La-5 series which entered the scene only in 1942, a total beast (as modeled in 1946, that is). Oh, and my fav of all time, the american P-39 of course... :mrgreen: (and I do prefer it with a red star)

JG53Frankyboy 03-09-2012 07:16 PM

an Airacobra with SoW's FM and DM might be a very interesting plane to fight with !

IF, 1C would realy leave the scenario/battle based planeset, i would be dissapointed actually. Because with the so often mentioned huge work/time to make a plane flyable that would mean they would work like in old IL2 again , something for everytime, but nothing complete.
Time will tell actually !

still counting on a pure 1941/42 "Operation Taifun" scenario - MiG3 and Hs123 would be my facvorites to fly.

RickRuski 03-09-2012 07:30 PM

For me it's the Il2 series 3, have loved that plane right from day 1. I have used it for ground attack, defence and almost everything possible. It is one great plane and as others have said the Russian aircraft are excellent.

Richie 03-09-2012 09:25 PM

What ever 109 F that they have. Then I can get out of this manual prop pitch fight and get some zip under my butt

BigC208 03-09-2012 10:03 PM

Strapping on an Il2 and groundpounding the living daylights out of the very well detailed mechanized units. Hope they model trucks and other vehicles with soldiers fleeing like before in Il2.

He111 03-10-2012 09:21 AM

"cementer!!" :grin:

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Verhängnis 03-10-2012 09:33 AM

Focke Wulf 189 Uhu! ;)

Sven 03-10-2012 03:08 PM

I really like the BF109F, but I also have a weak spot fot he LaGG-3 and Yak-1

BG-09 03-10-2012 05:35 PM

MiG-1! Ju-87...hmmmm...look here at this fantastic Hs 123 3D Model!

http://www.military-meshes.com/forum...ead.php?t=2125

Sokol1 03-10-2012 09:39 PM

A-7

http://www.cardarmy.ru/titles/orlik/a-7.jpg

:)

Sokol1

JG5_emil 03-10-2012 09:39 PM

La5 FN dressed up as a Yak 1

ATAG_Bliss 03-10-2012 10:02 PM

TB3 duh!! ;)

I predict a full ATAG player crew of pilot, gunners, etc., except we'll have a couple fighter jocks in I16's mounted under the wings for when the evil doers come!

Basically I predict many sorties to go just like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2l3NYDFCvA

proton45 03-11-2012 12:55 AM

I'm a big fan of the ME109F, and the JU87 is always a lot of fun...but lets face it, one of the big reasons for drivable tanks has got to be the "IL2 Sturmovik". Its a lot more fun busting tanks when their is someone in their...AND its a lot more challenging when you are dodging well aimed FLAK.

PS...I think I'm really looking forward to the inclusion of the P-39 and the P-40. I love the ME109F variant, but we already have the Messerschmidt in the game. We need the P-40 and P-39.

ElAurens 03-11-2012 02:47 PM

Well I'm hoping for the P40, but because of the earlier time frame It will be the IL-2 for mud moving and the I-16 for fighter duty.

Imbadude 03-15-2012 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by senseispcc (Post 397565)
Yes, the Lagg3 Mig1 and Mig3 Yak1 and Yak7 I16 I153 I152 I15 Pe2 Pe3 Sb2 Tb3 Mbr2bis Db3 Mbr2 Db3t IL2 Sb2m Yak4 Su2 Ar2 Db3f U2 Ut1 all this I could fly with pleasure.

Do not forget there where many types of I16 with many engines and many different guns.:cool:

I nearly forgot the Bi1 rocket plane but it never entered active service, bad luck.

Thanks Senseispcc :grin:, the lagg3 would be my choice because i like the look of it. i would love to see al aircraft above but i think that will be upto the 3rd party guys, when they release the tools that is.


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