Windows 8 and CloD (Merged Threads)
 

It does NOT work.
I did install Windows 8 X64 beta on a pc that did acept and play COD at a not to low graphic level and when I did change my OS to windows 8 x64 Steam had a little problem to install itself and COD does never launch itself.
Maybe with a x32 version maybe I shall try next week if no one trie before me. Sorry for this bad news.



Does now work download the fix as below.



http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=36078




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Well, hardly bad news as the first beta for all previous Windows versions have also been very unstable... And this is the first beta. Wait until RC3 before you get worried ;)

Which version do you run by the way? They only call the Server 8 Beta, but the consumer version is still called "Preview" (which is m$ lingo for alpha ;)).

Anyway, thanks for the heads up that there is a new version out. I'm downloading this version now from MSDN to try out:

Windows 8 Consumer Preview with Apps (x64)

Windows8-ConsumerPreview-64bit-English is my version all the other games (non steam) and application do work. For the little time I used this version of windows 8 and my previous exprience of it from November 2011 I find it a fine OS not easy to master but nice. And it is only a preview. I did post this only to advertise so that other should not try and make the same mistake.

Run it in win7 compatibility mode and elevate its rights / run it as admin.

Wait...is the problem with Steam or with CoD itself ?

Or both ?:-|

The problem is in Windows 8 Preview... It's an alpha, and very far from finished so what works and does not work is really not that interesting? Lots of stuff don't work in it.

I can't understand why anyone would jump to Win 8. Windows xp worked rather well for me, Vista, as I understand, was an unmitigated disaster, ( I never used it) and Win 7 gets very high praises. Granted, Microsoft does always have to reinvent the wheel to earn revenue, but sometimes the "newest" is not necessarily the best.

If you do not try how do you know it works or not? stupid is it? :roll:

I have it instaled in a VM for testing and while I think it may rule the tablet world, it feels no so good for desktop machines and completely fails with more than one screen IMO. You need to move too much the mouse for simple tasks, it feels annoying. I hope they fix that big usabily problem before final release. Other than that you can like the new interface or not, I personally don´t like it very much and I think I will not use metro apps in desktop.

It's taken them a year to get the next patch ready . Imagine how long it will take for them to code a new OS.

+ 1

Metro will be nice for tablets, for PC users I see no use for it. They will for sure do a "classic" mode where you get the menu button back and Metro becomes an "app" you can choose to start at boot time like Media Centre. They will never get corporate users to ditch W7 otherwise...

/mazex

So now it's 1C's responsibility to fix windows?

It's strange this kind of logic, sort of what people say that "when you don't like someone, everything they do annoys you no matter what". :-P

There is no patch for COD and I only posted this news so no one has to try it also not so it is corrected by someone it is of no interest to no me to play COD on my little PC I have my first line PC for that. I wantred only to launch it and to see it work under or with this new not yet finished OS. At the end of this year Windows shall be in the shops. It is part of my job to ibnstall the OS of choise on PC's of clients thus I tried this one and also all applications I could.

Win 8 looks more like a tablet os or phone os. I think it will have 1 major change before it gets to RC so i wouldnt worry too much if you miss the start menu.
Upside is its fast as lightning, hopefully staying that way when the updates come.

I guess you haven't used their alpha builds... :rolleyes:

Stuff that worked in earlier builds was broken in this latest release. So don't blame the devs. You should also give Microsoft some slack since the OS isn't nailed down yet.

Unless you are a techie who needs to keep up on OS development (not gaming), I wouldn't recommend installing Windows 8 yet. Even if you are one, I can't recommend installing it on your main machine, unless you have drive trays to swap out.

Sounds like you are having a better experience than me. I haven't used it on a hard machine yet, though.

I sorely miss the Start button. I would expect someone to make a utility to replace the Start button if MS doesn't. It's great when you have a lot of apps installed, so you don't have to see every icon on the shortcut bar or desktop.

Has MS never heard of the phrase "if it isn't broke, don't fix it?" It just seems like a big mistake. You may not use it 95% of the time (I'm paraphrasing their justification), but that 5% REALLY stings.

I have found a solution to the removal of the START button is leaving the desk menu on so it can be used like the start button it has nearly the same functions.

Just tryed to run CoD in the new win8 Release Candidate, but it still doesn´t work. Telling you so you can avoid testing yourselves.

Windows 8 Aka Wait for Windows 9 :rolleyes:

I heard that Bill Gates does not like PC games.

i knew this was the place to come looking for windows 8 impressions

My first impression is that I felt like trapped in kindergarden :confused:

a really bad feeling.

Windows 8? god..I think the world is just now focusing on 7, after Vista and that letdown. Lets' hope the game gets sorted out for windows 7 before attempting something more ambitious as 8 :)

My time machine is not working with windows 8 either. I suspect it is something to do with the nano, deregulating gyro for the oscillating time stasis reticulating lever (The big pointy thing with the shiny knob) and that Microsoft has not developed a time machine APP with touch screen interface yet.

But mostly I blame 1c Maddox Dev team for putting all their time and effort into building a new graphics engine for COD and not having enough time to focus on getting my Flight Model correct for flying through those swirly time worm holes using my Windows 8 Tablet that has not been released yet.

Clearly I never get my Windows 8 based time machine to work or I would have already gone back in time and given all the coding to the Dev’s so that we would not have to wait.
Or.
Maybe I did get it to work and I sit at home all day enjoying the beautiful graphics and amazing details of COD on win 8 from the future and don’t pass it on, just to p1ss off those that whine about everything that doesn’t work on things that are still under development.

:-P

I want a metro COD, so I can shoot enemy planes taping over them while they pass perfectly lined across my reticle... emmmh... just joking.

hi
i have a Windows 8 rtm x64 and isn't compatible with all compatibility mode with il2 COD (steam)
have a nice day

WTH are you doing on Windows 8 :) this is the worst crap since millenium :)

stop playing with your toys and take a real os :)

You have a future! Awsome!

I'm running Windows 8 rtm x64 only because I have to.
It would be great minus Metro and add a start menu.....without having to hack it.
The thing I love is the manual trim support for SSD's.

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I tried this week end and I confirm it windows 8 X64 does not accept COD or Steam.

S!

Seems Windows 7 will be the future "WinXP". Lot of users, very good and stable(at least for me) and a wealth of supported software + mature drivers.

it's not windows 8 fault, it's the developers not supporting windows 8 while it isn't released. Most games work on windows 8, apart from this one, ironic isn't it?

This is odd, as I'm running Steam and a lot of steam-games in Win8 x64. Mind you, I'm running the RTM-versjon, not one of the RC/Preview-versions.

I haven't installed and tested CLoD yet, but will do that asap.

i fixed il 2 sturmovik 1946 with compatibility mode under windows 7 on DVD version (i run the A.exe not setup.exe)
but il 2 sturmovik COD (steam)it's not running with all compatibility mode that i try it with and more strange the oldest sim is working and the game with a DX10 is not working that mean that COD need a fix

i contact ubisoft and they haven't any solution

Windows 8 Support
 

In the works?

No. Besides, Windows 8 = *****. :)

Strange. I don't have any issues with it what so ever, apart, of course, that CLoD doesn't work with it.

Hell, I'd say that it's faster than Win7 on my box.

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I have tried it recently with a preview of Windows 8 x64 steam works but COD does not.

:-x The only issue with Windows 8 is CLoD.

I get the following logs after each launch attempt:


From installscript_log.txt

09/29/12 11:56:02 [AppID 63950] Exit Code (5100) : "c:\program files (x86)\steam\steamapps\common\il-2 sturmovik cliffs of dover\redist\VCRedist\vcredist_x86.exe" /Q GLE 203

From Microsoft Visual C++ 2010 x86 Redistributable Setup_20120929_115602164.htm
Installation Log:

OS Version Information:

OS Version = 6.2.9200, Platform 2
OS Description = Future OS - x64

OS Version Information


Environment details:

CommandLine = e:\cb4a2c5a3bca89c0c8d344df\Setup.exe /Q
TimeZone = Central Daylight Time
Initial LCID = 1033


Environment details

Loading localized engine data for language 1033 from e:\cb4a2c5a3bca89c0c8d344df\1033\LocalizedData.xml

Entering Function: LocalizedData::CreateLocalizedData


exiting function/method


succeeded


Entering Function: EngineData::CreateEngineData


Current SetupVersion = 1.0
SetupVersion specified in ParameterInfo.xml is '1.0'
Adding Item type "File", local path vc_red.cab
Adding Item type "MSI", local path vc_red.msi
Adding Item type "MSI", local path vc_red.msi
Adding Item type "ServiceControl", local path (not applicable)
No ProcessBlock element
No ServiceBlock element
Disabled CommandLineSwitch added: createlayout
Using Simultaneous Download and Install mechanism
exiting function/method


succeeded


MaintenanceMode determination: evaluating EnterMaintenanceModeIf


evaluating EnterMaintenanceModeIf:

Exists: evaluating


MsiGetProductInfo with product code {196BB40D-1578-3D01-B289-BEFC77A11A1E} found no matches


Exists evaluated to false


MaintenanceMode determination evaluates to 'not in maintenance mode'


Operation Type:


Operation: Installing


Operation Type


Package details: Microsoft Visual C++ 2010 x86 Redistributable Setup


Package Name = Microsoft Visual C++ 2010 x86 Redistributable Setup
Package Version = 10.0.30319


Package details


User Experience Data Collection Policy:


User Experience Data Collection Policy: UserControlled


User Experience Data Collection Policy


Global Block Checks: Checking for global blockers



BlockIf: Microsoft Visual C++ 2010 Redistributable is not supported on this operating system.


Microsoft Visual C++ 2010 Redistributable is not supported on this operating system.
evaluating BlockIf:

And: evaluating



Equals: evaluating


Current Operation value is Installing


Equals evaluated to true


GreaterThan: evaluating


TargetOS is 6.2.0
all numeric characters - canonicalizing


GreaterThan evaluated to false


And evaluated to false


BlockIf evaluated to false


BlockIf: A newer version of Microsoft Visual C++ 2010 Redistributable has been detected on the machine.


A newer version of Microsoft Visual C++ 2010 Redistributable has been detected on the machine.
evaluating BlockIf:

And: evaluating



Equals: evaluating


Current Operation value is Installing


Equals evaluated to true


LessThan: evaluating


RegKeyValue: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\VisualStudio \10.0\VC\VCRedist\x86\Bld contains '40219'
all numeric characters - canonicalizing


LessThan evaluated to true


And evaluated to true


BlockIf evaluated to true


Logging all the global blocks


Installation Blockers:
1.A newer version of Microsoft Visual C++ 2010 Redistributable has been detected on the machine.


Global Block Checks: StopBlockers evaluated to true.

Final Result: Installation failed with error code: (0x000013EC), "A StopBlock was hit or a System Requirement was not met." (Elapsed time: 0 00:00:00).

Poked around my Win8-install for a bit, and tried uninstalling the C++ 2010-distributable packages that I had installed. Still no go. Then another thing struck me: Could this be an issue with .Net? Win8 has .Net 4.5 baked into it, and wouldn't install the .Net 4.0 client profiles. I know that Microsoft say that 4.5 is backwards-compatible, but I trust that about as far as I can throw Steve Ballmer.

Looks like we tried the same things. Same results.

One question I wonder about is whether or not you can remove the pre-installed .Net-versions that are baked into Win8, install .Net 4.0 Client Profiles, install and successfully run CLoD and THEN install .net 4.5. Will test this, although I'm somewhat sure that the system will break horrendously :P Wouldn't surprise me that .Net 4.5 is so heavily integrated into the system that it'll never come out.

I may be wrong, but my understanding is .Net 4.5 is integrated.

Yep, but you can deactivate it through the Add/remove Windows Features-subsystem of the add/remove programs. Tried removing it from my lappie to test if it went boom, but the system still stayed up. It even reinstalled .net 2.0/3.5 to run the Windows 7 USB Tool.

Will see if I can get time to test things out on my gamebox tomorrow. Haven't had time for much the last few days due to work.

Any timeline on Win 8 fix?
 

The issue being with game setup being unable to install vcredist_x86.exe during setup due to ...

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b9...l2CODerror.jpg

You're asking if they have a timeline to fix problems on an operating system that hasn't been released yet?

why not?? the devs should have had the game working for win 8 from release back last spring ...why shouldnt we expect the impossible from the devs....

Seems that there are far too many sarcastic trolls around here. Oh well.

you are a troll

Reported

the fact is, don't expect win 8 functionality until the sequel. You can't make this game compatible with the current version of an unreleased OS because an update to the OS could break the game.

I'd be surprised if that is the case. This is the only game or software I've had any compatibility issue with. BTW, I'm running the Technet RTM version. Not a BETA or eval.
More or less I'm just making some noise to have it looked at. Other titles use the same redistributables without issue. May be as simple as detecting the OS version to determine which to run during setup.

Luthier said that W8 support is not going to be looked at in the near future, but perhaps for the sequel. Currently they have their hands full implementing DirectX9 compatability.

:cool:

I hate to break it to you, but your noise will not amount to anything. The game barely runs on win 7, and they've already stated this patch will be the last. What on earth makes you think they have the time or resources to look into win 8 support?

Not to mention that win 8 is going to be an atrocious platform for gaming. I'm not sure why you'd even bother. Quite simply it's just not going to get looked at. Maybe for the sequel, but for CLOD? Not a chance.

My thread asking for a possible timeline for a fix on this was closed due the the anti Win 8 forces. I had one try to convince me how HORRIBLE Win 8 was for gaming. My personal experience has been the opposite. Lower resource usage and stellar game playing. :cool: This is what is occurring:
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b9...l2CODerror.jpg

The game installer is trying to install a redistributable that isn't compatible with Windows 8. I could be entirely wrong, but it seems to me that this could be as simple a fix as the installer detecting the OS and not installing this redistributable which I don't believe is required for the game to run.

I agree it is a simple installer issue and most likely a basic fix.

Well, this is a pretty thorough test that finds no performance gain at all (Win 8 a tiny bit slower in most tests):

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/M...ormance/1.html

So "stellar" seems a bit like wishful thinking? You're sure you don't work at m$? Which game did you try that was "stellar"? Share some benchmarks as it sounds interesting.

EDIT: And yes, I have an MSDN Premium subscription and have been running Windows 8 since the first consumer preview - and I can't say I like it much (but a tablet with it would be interesting)...

It's within the margin of error for every single title they tested. My performance has been stellar. Meaning stable and rock solid gaming. Hardly 'horrible'. The actual quote I was addressing was "Not to mention that win 8 is going to be an atrocious platform for gaming."

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpos...3&postcount=10
Not my experience. Perhaps a bit more paying attention to what I actually posted and not what you 'wished' I posted. Now how about back on topic to a fix? Seems to be a lot of upset posters here.

Well, even though many of us in "the business" have had access to the RTM for two months or so the official release date is still almost two weeks away so I guess it's hard to "demand" it from Steam that is the one that starts the c++ redist installation before installing the game? And the redist installation that "fails" is from Microsoft themselves and if they had "failed nicely" with a "continue" button enabled that could let you proceed with a normal exit code there would be no problem? Hardly feels like an issue to take up with the developers? Not that I'm sure of it but the invocation of the redist is not done by them (i guess ;)). As I recall it the installation of C++ redist and DirectX is done for many games as part of the Steam installation "scripts" so it's really Steam that should fix it... Or rather the installer should have been made like the DirectX installer that is built with future versions of the OS in mind and simply exits with an "OK" exit code if a later version is already installed.

Not a big issue, and when Windows 8 is released I'm sure it will be fixed.

EDIT: Found a thread on the Steam forum that might help you as it seems like a "generic" Steam problem like i guessed above:

http://forums.steampowered.com/forum....php?t=2736288

The Steam app id for Clod is 63950 by the way...

/mazex

And another possible solution as I don't have my Windows 8 machine here at home (but installing on a laptop as we speak ;)).

In the Steam folder for CloD (..\steamapps\common\il-2 sturmovik cliffs of dover) there is a file called "63950_install.vdf" that contains the information below. How about trying to remove the part that is about installing the C++ redist? That might work? That is - remove the whole section with "VCRedist".

Gave the install script and reg edit a shot. No joy.

OK, it still fired up the c++ redist installation? It could of course be part of the CloD installation...

Lets keep trial and error - how about adding a line in the VCRedist part with:

"IgnoreExitCode" "1"

Just guessing that could ignore the fact that it "fails"...

If that fails I could write a silly c++ program that returns a 0 as exit code that you could put in %INSTALLDIR%\\redist\\VCRedist\\vcredist_x86.exe :) Or by the way, why not just do a copy of the DirextX installer and call it "vcredist_x86.exe" in that folder... That way it will "think" it installs the C++ redist and it works :)

EDIT:

Wrote an amazing version of vcredist_x86.exe that will always work :) Download below, unpack the rar and put the file in %INSTALLDIR%\\redist\\VCRedist\\vcredist_x86.exe (and save the orignal before etc...). It's a dummy console c++ program that does nothing but return 0 (the exit code for "OK).

https://sites.google.com/site/mazexx...edirects=0&d=1

This is the code it runs (a default empty c++ project):

Windows 8
 

So is Clod compatible or not with w8 ?
I am thinking of buying a license of Windows 8

Why do you want to move to Win 8??????

Maybe he's not as blinded by the negative nannies as many others are? Win8 is NOT in any way as hideous and rubbish as people would want it to be.

To the OP: CLoD is currently incompatible with Win8, although there's a few of us that are researching if a solution to it can be found.

You can get Windows 8 Pro Upgrade (Download) for €29.99 or $39.99
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows/worldwide
So why not, make a dual boot installation and wait for the problems to be fixed.
:rolleyes:

Been using it at work for the past month. It was installed on a dev box that was running Win7 and it is faster.

If there was ever a time to retire a WinXP install it is now, for less than the price of AAA game you can get Win8 Pro, you'd be mad not to.

The UI is a little tricky to use at first but once you get the hang of it, its very intuitive.

A retailer here in Australia offering Win 8 Pro with media centre for $59

I won't spend more money in this deprecated software

Which one? CLoD or Win8? :P

I want all the power and features of my PC stripped away and replaced with the useless gimmicks of a tablet.

Why take the start button away? and why replace it with metros.... anything with metro in the name is obliviously a bad thing.

If i wanted a super OS I would go out and buy lion.... or snow lion... or super mountain lion... whatever their up-to now.

Hi,
trying CLoD @win8 Pro x64. It does not work for me at the moment. Seems like Clod would like to install VCRedist, when I try to start it out of Steam Client. But then nothing happens, cause there is a newer Version of VCRedist installed @win8.

Any suggestions bout that?

Tested ROF also -> working.

@Devs: Is there a possibility that you fix this also ? ^^

Greetings Daniel

Hi,
tried your "program", but still no luck. Clod wont start...

WTF? Who are you to question the reason people move to a different OS?

Any self respecting developer, not to mention a “software company” :rolleyes: would make it a priority to support future Operating Systems.

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I have tried the different versions of windows 8 preview and none did work with COD.
Steam does work but COD does not one should try with the full and final version of windows 8 maybe it can work but I do not think so?!

Hi,
just bought the Final today for EUR 29.99 and what I can say is: It does not work".

Another Steam Game (XCOM) works fine..

Sitting here typing this in Windows 8 Pro. Upgraded from an old XP license I had laying around today. I mean, 29,90€? that's nothing for a completely new OS. Also, Internet Explorer 10 is just ridiculously fast, only thing I didn't like about the installation was the fact that it didn't ask if I wanted to install 32-bit or 64-bit version of the OS. So I'm stuck with 32-bit until I get the "backup DVD" I ordered extra. So far I'm a happy camper but I shudder at the thought of migrating all my games and subsequent games settings from my Windows 7 partition to the new Win 8 Pro partition, sigh.

The price is hot, for sure. Have you already tried Clod?

Until Win8's gaming performance (my games) is better than Win7's I ain't budgin'.

You don't lose any of the power that you had in previous versions of Windows. The Start Menu has been replaced by the "Modern" interface. They don't call it Metro anymore.

If people think clicking the Start button and scrolling and browsing through the menu is power use they are sadly mistaken. For the last two Windows generations, Microsoft has been trying to get users to use the search feature. Hit the Windows key and type what you want to launch. Need to use the Run feature? Windows key+R.

Windows 8 is a decent OS. It boots faster than 7, and is generally much snappier.

The problem with Cliffs of Dover I have found seems to be an incompatibility between the modules in COD written in .NET 4 and Windows 8's integrated .NET 4.5 implementation. Either 1C needs to release a patch for those modules or Microsoft needs to implement some backwards compatible code in 4.5 that would fix the problem.

...and I am afraid, nothing of the two options will be realized...

Btw. In Win8 you are faster when searching some App or program. Just type the beginning letter(s) and you ll get the Link to click on. (when being in New UI).

8 isnt bad, but there is no need to switch from seven. I am in the IT Business, so I have to use it to be informed about "new things" etc etc.

I am an IT professional in the game industry and Windows 8 has a strong push in Microsoft's future of gaming. Even on the console side.

I too don't hold much hope that either 1C or Microsoft would be willing to expend the effort needed to address the issue.

I have Technet subscription, been triple booting Win 7,Win 8 and Ubuntu for some time.

What? You do realise CoD won't run on an Apple OS right?

Win8 is actually faster and uses less resources than Win7 and you can configure Win8 to use the traditional UI via control panel. But you already knew that didn't you?

More importantly, will CLOD run on Microsoft Surface Pro ?? with W8 .. maybe a cut down version ?? .. maybe 1946 ???

As a loyal storm trooper, i plan to buy Surface Pro to add mobility to my power house desktops. would be nice to BOM the SURFACE !! :grin:

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Not really...Some CPU bound Apps/Games may run a tiny bit faster.

So if clod does not work @win8 it might be my end of usin clod. Dont know if I will realize a dual boot for it. Time will show. Would be nice to hear the devs opinion bout it.

Problem Win 8
 

I installed win 8 of win 7 ... All games on steams me after installing win 8 going to run, but not run CoD. Does anyone know why? Do I have the game of steames remove and then re-install all over again? Thanks for the reply , Buffin

Well, Clod will most probably be integrated to the sequel which will certainly be Win 8 compatible.

I hope so. Thanks for the reply.

Sorry but I'm doubting they are going to invest money or effort into W.8 compatibility especially given the global response and backlash from gamers and studios alike and not to mention the fact they are bothering to fix reverse compatibility with DirectX 9. At least let them fix the damn engine first...

Granted no flight sims were tested but they never are.So I guess the results should be taken with a grain of salt.

Except for any incompatibilities it looks like a push to me.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...ance,3331.html

The problem seems to be a .Net 4.5 incompatibility, for example i've downloaded and installed the Visual Studio 2012 Express for Desktops which also uses 4.5, after installing i lost the Cockpits in Cliffs of Dover :rolleyes:.
Normaly it's on Microsoft to fix that problem in their .Net 4.5 implementation.

The thing is that .NET 4.0 and .NET 4.5 do not go side by side, and installation of .NET 4.5 affects .NET 4.0 runtime. It is supposed to allow running both 4.0 and 4.5 targets, and provide fixes for some issues of 4.0. Everything looks fine, except that those fixes are only given with 4.5, which requires Vista or later OS. This potentially introduces different behavior for 4.0 target running on XP (or Vista/Win7 without 4.5 installed) and 4.0 target running on Vista/Win7 with 4.5 installed or on Win8. It is a compatibility mess.

In anyway, I have .NET 4.5 on my system for some time, and CoD works fine for me, so I don't think that .NET 4.5 guilt is proven. I also tried CoD on Win8 today. All prerequisites were met, but CoD simply continued to exit without any messages. Process monitor did not show any abnormal events as if CoD exited on its own will. Maybe it is just something like blunt if (x<y) {die();}. :)

...same expirience here... also looked at it with procmon. Would be really nice if the devs would spend some comment on that.

the devs have a responsibility to apply a patch for win 8 compatibility, its not a microsoft problem. out of all the games i played on win 8 (almost all of them) the only one not to work is CloD.

i hope win8 support is in the next patch, cheers guys:cool:

...but will there be a "next patch" ? I think I ve read bout the last official patch was also the last one for CloD.

@Blacksix: Is there a chance that we (CloD) get a patch to get Win8 compatibility fixed?

window8
 

ive lost sli cliffs of dover, but windows 8 is a must for 25 squid, ill strip my external hard drive reload vista 64 and load all that plays up on w 8.

I am so glad you guys installed Windows 8 for me to test. I will hold off on spending the money and wasting time with it. Much appreciated.