Is CoD worth getting?
 

Hi everyone. I waited for years for this release just like everyone else, but I was fortunate enough to have up to this point as an observer, as my PC was just too old and I had other priorities. Now that my PC has finally given up, and i'm forced to build a new system, after looking at these boards for the last year and watching from afar, i'm really wondering if you all think it's worth getting this sim? There's so many negatives, and from what I can see, the only positive is that it looks fantastic in most aspects. But i don't want screenshot software.

What's the verdict? How are campaign and online experiences?

That is becoming an unanswerable question, for those it works for (me included) you would get a big yes, others would say a big no and threaten to punch you in the face for daring to support it.

Bottom line is, right now it may or may not work for you but there is a BIG patch coming to address the issues, are you prepared to miss out on what is a great game based on some naysayers with issues?

Why even discuss this when it can be had for such a small amount of money? you're only going to get a mass of conflicting opinions, either wait for one of the many sales in which it is highly likely to appear in or buy the collectors edition for under £20 from Ubishop: http://shop.ubi.com/store/ubiemea/en...s_Edition.html

I can't tell you about offline, but the online game can be funny and rewarding sometimes. In Channel map servers however you risk often to fly for a long time to see some action. That's the effect of the big size of the 1:1 map resulting in a low density of players.
ATAG server uses AI bombers to increase the activity, which either act as practice targets, or become the rendez-vous point for attacking and defending fighters. Another current time-killer in ATAG is the strafing raid on enemy airports.

If you like bombing there is an exhaustive thread in another section of this forum.



However, given the current ridiculous price of CloD, why do you bother asking the question?

For the initial price of €30 I would say no. For the price of €10 however, it gives the user more than any other game like-priced currently.

The game plays fine most of the time. Its main flaw however is that the online play is next to none existant. There is no coop-mode yet. You can only fly so long offline until you get bored and shelve the game.

It feels like the FSX. You got all those pretty planes ready to fight, but you can`t really use them for anything else than sightseeing flying.

I'd say go for it. I have a low spec machine and although I do get CTDs regularly (patch in the works) I've had a great time flying it and still do almost every day. It's going to get a good deal better very soon too.

CLOD can be equally fantastic and awful with in a very short time, small engagements over the coast can be very exciting and visually stunning, almost photo realistic at times, but then whole thing can be let down by awful AI, FPS slowdown and CTDs.
Online is very limited at this time with only a few servers and limited gameplay. COOPs are badly needed to get more action and sqds involved.

Were waiting for a patch that will hopefully improve the more important aspects of CLOD, FPS, FM, AI and the rest.

Like some have said if your interested in flight sims and have a beefy system then for 10 quid you cant go wrong.

Go for it dan!:)

I hadn't considered the price drop. I suppose if i'm spending a few hundred on a machine another £20 wont hurt, especially with the potential improvements in the works.

I do indeed enjoy bomber flights. Is there a bomber server? Do AI bombers fly in formation with you yet, or simply follow their course?

Very strange hearing there are no co-op servers!

Thanks for putting it in a nutshell!

You can get it for so cheap right now that it almost doesn't matter if it's good or bad, just buy it!:)

- bomber server? There are good servers out there, allowing to use bombers at your will
- AI bombers follow their scripted course, they ignore other planes
- again, look for the dedicated bomber thread in some of the sections above

Cheers,
Ins

no.

unless you are into " suport the series thing"

Could be. In a few weaks. We will see.

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Wait for the next update, don't waste your money now and wait for feedback after the new engine release.

When? Soon. March 2012 is coming very fast.

Although its really cheap now. 5 times cheaper then year ago, when I bought it.

Hi danjama,

Here's some raw footage I took from my Hurricane of "Timboy" (flying a Blenheim) bombing a designated target in Occupied France on ATAG Server #1:

http://theairtacticalassaultgroup.co...round-Pounding

Feel free to explore the ATAG Forum and be sure to to say "hi" while you're there.

While I won't disagree with anyone's views on Cliffs of Dover based on their own and others' perspectives, my own experience with CoD has been vastly different in a very positive way. Like everyone here, I place a high premium on my discretionary time and certainly wouldn't waste it on something that bored me, frustrated me, or even failed to give me great enjoyment.

In the Summer/Autumn of 1940 SE England, if you strapped on a Spitfire or Hurricane and took off on a solo mission over the Channel with no radio two things would likely happen:

1) you would see few or no aircraft
2) you would be shot down by one of (1) above that you never saw

So it is on both ATAG Servers -- it's a HUGE map with low traffic density, even at the busy times of 50+ players online. The trick is to download Teamspeak 3 (a free, easy-to-use comms utility) and come onto the ATAG Channel and introduce yourself. We're a friendly bunch at ATAG and you will find yourself warmly welcomed there. Twice yesterday I met up with a new player, placed ourselves on a private Teamspeak channel, then ran each through a cockpit procedure to get engine started, take off, and then go on a guided tour of the various "hotspots". In one case, my new wingmate, "Dugan" shot down a 109 that fastened itself onto my tail and was target-fixated on me. How can you beat that? :)

The same applies to bombers. Both ATAG Servers are now objectives-based, with primary and secondary targets on both sides. We have ATAG_Dutch very keen on building a Blenheim squad, and ATAG_Keller the same with Axis Ju 88's, Stukas, He 111's, and ME 110's. Keller also flies a mean 109 when the mood strikes him, but don't tell him I said so! LOL

Sorry for the wall of words here; just a different take on Cliffs of Dover.

Dan long time no type buddy!

Your timing is off by a week! ;)

There is a big patch due out soon (next friday?) so I would wait for that and than ask this question!

For all its troubles I still think its worth it, it should only get better from here on out, and really compared to other things coming, if you are a sim fan, its the only place to be (aside from DCS P51 which wont be anything more than a plane sim, not that that is a bad thing, not a WWII sim).

Just expect some work on your end to get it running. Its not for the casual person for sure...

i too think its worth to buy it, even in its current state.
though there are many annoying problems, i would buy it again.

CoD is a must have for any ww2 combat sim pilot. "The fix" is on the way but bare in mind the sim is still is being worked on so it will only improve.

Yes...but its like dating a very beautiful woman...high maintanence is required

No, not as is.
Only thing it does well is airquake. And that only until the launcher crash.

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If your a combat flight sim fan, I'm surprised you haven't supported the sim already. The price is miniscule compared to the system your going to buy to run it. With the upgoming patch even average systems should be able to run the sim with few problems.

CLOD works perfectly on my computer. I have all the joysticks and fiddly bits and a massive monitor and it runs like a dream.

Despite that I haven't played it in months. There's just no content. The online community is terrible, there's only 1 game mode (basically Air Quake) and there's to high a percentage of online players who are outright hostile to you if you so much as hint at not knowing how to do everything.

As far as realism goes, they tried too hard to make it realistic to the point where in a lot of ways it's less realistic than IL-2 or even Wings of Prey. When writing CLOD they focused so much on visuals and button switching that they forgot to make any compromises based on the fact that everyone playing this game is doing so while sitting at a desk viewing the world through a computer monitor.

Spend your money on something else.

Yes it is worth getting it, but imho only to support the Devs to improve lots of things.
For your personal interest, you could be dissapointed getting it at this moment as many things don't work ( for me that is)
But The Tangmere Pilots are a very patient Wing, we waited years for this, so we can wait some more
20 of our Chaps have it and we flew together some 1400 hours (i counted it on Steam) to test things
So far we stopped testing and waiting for the next patch
Just buy it and support the team, but be patient for the results
good luck
No43_Tigertooo
Tangmere Pilots
www.tangmerepilots.co.uk

Hey ace, definitely been a while! You still flying 46? Mods?

Will take another week+ to get this system set up so looking forward to this mystical patch! :]

Im agreeing with those saying its so cheap that It's worth buying, even if it just sits there while i play '46, RoF, FS9 etc.

Yupper! ;)

Been playing alot of RoF too.. That WWI kind of got under my skin in the last month.. Funny, my 1st big PC sim was Red Barron by Dynamix back around 1991.. So kind of having some old time flashbacks!

Yup, if it does HALF the things they say it will do it will be great!

So true.. On that note have you seen the recent CoD news? As for the planned russian front sequal(s) and manable AAA and drivable ground vehicals (tanks, trucks, etc). That should draw in alot of targe... I mean 'new players' to the sim!! ;)

EvilJoven, sorry to read about your bad experiences online -- I can't blame you for being bitter, who wouldn't be? Doubtless you've read my earlier post in this thread to Danjama. Please take this as a hearty invitation to join us anytime on the ATAG Server. Teamspeak 3 is a major plus, and I guarantee you a much better experience this time out. Newcomers are warmly welcomed -- just watch out the bomber guys don't entice you away from flying the fighters! LOL

As you pointed out above, there's always the potential for an Airquake scenario, but by and large our two servers now have options for everyone, including bomber escort, fighter sweeps ahead of the bombers, bomber aircrew, etc etc. As AoA mentioned, there is a patch onthe radar screen that will hopefully address many of the concerns we all share about CoD

Things are evolving over at the ATAG Servers and we have a good online community, including 19 of us ATAG guys flying online pretty much 'round the clock (at different times, obviously LOL) monitoring the Chat windows for any probs or player abuse/swearing (very rare). With the coding optimized and finalized, many projects currently on ice will be introduced by the ATAG project crew to keep things fresh and revitalized.

This reminds me of the old car commercial, "Have you driven a Ford......lately?" Take ATAG out for a spin. We want to know what YOU think! :grin:

Snapper

I think ATAG deserve a medal for what they are trying to do with CLOD.
But unless we get COOPs will never get close to recreating BOB battles online, it simply will not happen.

The ATAG server can be great fun, ive had fun on there. Its the best CLOD experience online by a mile, but its not the BOB.

It's a no-brainer tbh. Buy it and be patient.

I'd say its more like dating a bipolar woman with a broken hip but if you can get it cheap, grab it I guess.

Yes there are features that still need work, but I still don't see the FMB options available discriminating between Coop or any other servers. Call your group whatever you want but there should still be options to fly the missions you want to fly, with passwords to stop people not interested in flying your mission.

Once the sim is working properly I can easily see someone setting up a completely historical online campaign where the AI fills all the spots, and aircraft takeoff from historical airbases at the historical time, programmed with the historical mission. The campaign could be used by Coops or otherwise. The Coops could have a password so only those who want to fly a specific mission can do so without interference from renegade human pilots. 24/7 servers could have people or groups of people join the campaign at any time and take AI spots, or takeoff from the appropriate airfields of their choice and attack targets of opportunity. There could easily be options for anything inbetween those two scenarios.

Thanks for the kind words, Furbs! :)

Most of us think of the Battle of Britain as huge epic battles involving dozens of Axis bombers in formation with equally large numbers of escorting 109's perched high above at varying altitudes, with one or two squadrons (sometimes more, sometimes less) of RAF fighters rising up to intercept them. Indeed, this is where COOP missions would shine if 1C properly institutes them in future patching. No question, no argument.

A month or two (or three?) ago Farber and his JG/27 crew hosted a "bomber night". He'd have to jump in here to say how many participated, but I was in a Spitfire Ia squadron that spawned at Manston and we sat warming up while waiting for a squadron of Hurri Rotols to move their lumbering behinds off the runway so we could take off. Our job was to patrol the neighbouring Thames Estuary -- we barely got to 18,000 feet when the sudden appearance of flak alerted us to what turned out to be 6 He111's heading for London about 5,000 feet below us. Easy meat except for the pesky 109's escorting 'em. So......."not even close to BoB", you say? Hah! :)

Hey, even today I spawned in a Rotol at Manston and headed south. "Ribbs" joined up on Teamspeak flying a Rotol out of Lympne, so we hooked up. I had a go at a formation of five AI Dornier 17's at 12,500 feet while Ribbs headed off a 109 looking to interfere with my fun. While they headed to the deck I noticed a single twin engine --a 110 -- overflying my Dorniers headed towards our Comms HQ at G10 (an Axis designated target). Ribbs was finishing off the 109, so I gave pursuit on the fast-flying 110. He climbed to 17,000 feet with me slowly gaining. A quick burst had him instantly kicking over into a hard spiralling dive to the right. On the verge of blacking out I was losing sight of him, so I relaxed the turn, only to find the 110 on MY six! A quick split-S saved my bacon, but it took a few seconds to reacquire visual contact on the now-fleeing Zerstorer. Caught up once again and fired up into his belly. He fell away and dove into the ground. For my part, low on fuel, I landed at Littlestone amongst the Blenheims.

So, "not even close to BoB"? C'mon! ;)

All that sounds great fun Snapper! im sure it is, from me as well, no argument.

But its not the BOB, again not yours or ATAGs fault but that's dogfight servers for you.
Now imagine if we had COOPs, we could get all 19 members of ATAG plus about 10 of our fellas plus public and have a proper BOB mission...now that would be something to see Snapper eh!

Furbs... your telling me a Coop squad couldn't start a server with a group of AI Ju87 covered by a group of AI 109's attacking a convoy of ships, that your squad needs to intercept? etc etc etc

You don't really need a Coop room to start the mission. Your group should be on teamspeak or given an approximate starting time. I here Hyperlobby has COD available now so there might be a team room there. Or you could have a trigger that starts the AI when the first aircraft in your group takes off.

I need to have a better dig around and read of all the stickies to get up to date! Hopefully i'll see you in the skies in '46 and RoF really soon, and maybe CoD! What version are you flying inj il2 46 now?

@ATAG, your server sounds like just the cuppa. Love those long, tense flights, whether as pilot of a bomber or fighter.

Speaking of which, is it yet possible to have a seperate human pilot and human bomberdier? In il2 the pilot was also the bombardier, whiuch was frustrating in coops.

Furbs, what you describe (the 19 + 10 .....and more...) in a COOP format is great. I'd be the first to sign up for a spot. But I disagree that anything short of a COOP format is merely "a dogfight server". That implies absolutely no organization; a virtual free-for-all. That does NOT describe what I regularly see on the two ATAG servers of late. As Chivas mentioned, I see groups on both sides organizing themselves, via Teamspeak, to form bomber flights with specific server-defined targets as objectives. At the same time, calls go out over Teamspeak for fighter pilots to either provide escort OR to patrol over defined targets (ie radar towers at G7 Dungeness and I12 Ramsgate plus Comms HQ at G10 Canterbury) to defend against possible enemy bomber & fighter formations. Not all 40 or 50 players on the server wish to participate - but that's OK since that introduces a dynamic randomness to the respective missions. In fact, that "unexpected encounter" factor adds to the tension, just as undisclosed triggers in a formal COOP mission should have.

I see COOP as one means to bring a group of players together to reenact a particular scenario, with a defined start time. A good thing, to be sure, but by no means does that one format exclusively emulate the Battle of Britain. Those who are holding off from buying or playing CoD "because there's no COOP" are failing to grasp the huge capabilities of such easily utilized organizational tools such as Teamspeak, email, and these forums to get like-minded groups of players into their aircraft in the same theatre of operations. Farber and the JG/27 did it on a large scale, small groups of us do it on the fly every day. And for us, this is as much a virtual Battle of Britain as a formalized COOP mission(s) is a virtual Battle of Britain for you.

Well said Snapper!
Sorry to hear about your unfortunate TS experience Eviljoven.. like Snapper said..give it another try, there is a bunch of great guys in there. Don't let 1 bad experience ruin it for you. I for one am having a hard time waiting for the patch to come, but without the ATAG server, the wait would a heck of a lot worse than it is. The last time I checked, I was born in 1970. Not 1939-1940. I have no idea what it would have been like to be in the Battle of Britain, but Im betting not every day was 100's of Bombers and 100's of fighters duking it out over the channel, or over England. I've also never had the chance to strap into a WII fighter.... So when I jump into the server, and engage a bomber formation, or get jumped by a 109 off the coast of Hawkinge.. I can only imagine what it must have been like back then.....but being on TS and hearing the excitement/ desperation in someone's voice as they are about to engage an enemy, or getting swarmed by a bunch of 109's.. is priceless! It's absolutely a one of a kind experience for sure.
It's Definately worth getting, and its only going to get better for sure!Welcome aboard!.. Hopefully.. haha
Blue Skys! S!

Is COD worth getting..... HELL YEAH!!!


Sorry have not read any prior posts in this thread. Just a simple YES is all that is required from me.

All that is true Snapper, and ive seen large missions happen on dogfight missions a few times over the years and it was great to see even if it was a little discouraged , but the one thing that gets in the way is time.

COOPs allow for missions to be set up and run in a very short time scale.
Setting up a 30 man mission on a DF would be a once a night thing and quite tricky to get right....i know ive tried it with 8 and its like herding cats!

COOPs allow you to run them 3-4 times a night and with re-starts if the plonker forgets his bombs! :) it also allows large formations to be placed 10 or 15 mins away from the target, on course, at the right height and with all the right bomb load, with the escort sqd in place above.

Im not running down what can happen on ATAG Snapper, like ive said they do a great job and im sure it will get better, but we really do need the COOPs to get sqds involved in a regular way, online wars and other things.

Ive been told all the great things CLOD can do with triggers and missions and stuff, im waiting still.

Anyway Snapper, i will pop on ATAG TS later this week and have a look myself. :)

Hi Danjama,

Campaign is bad
Online is very good (if you have a mega-server to log into; like the ATAG and REPKA servers are)

You did not tell us what you are looking for. If you are somebody who pays attention to detail or likes programming or likes highly complex flying, you will love this sim.

You also need a mega-PC to play CoD decently. The graphics card that will play this game with ease has not been in the market yet and may take a couple of years :(

So, I would put a definite yes as answer, provided you are prepared to accept the heavy hardware investment that is required (PC, GPU, joystics etc).

~S~

We will see after the "optimisation" patch....lets wait and see

My overclocked GTX470 (800Mhz) is doing pretty well with med to high settings (model and textures on high) and that is on 1920x1200. Big slowdowns I have only when looking at effects such is dust or fire. Or sometimes when more planes are low over cities.

Furbs, thanks for the detail on the COOP's potential -- "like herding cats" is so true with us bunch! LOL

Also, I think I've been quibbling over semantics earlier since, really, what you're asking by way of COOP's would be a huge asset to a complex sim like CoD; count me as a full supporter!

I'm hoping that if you do drop by the ATAG Server one fine evening that our bomber guys are there as they are the foundation (in large part) of the impromptu missions that occur. That said, frequently when it's just us "fighter boys" we've responded to the "radar sightings" to set up high altitude ambushes for incoming bomber raids on our side.

The way the ATAG servers are set now, the briefing tab lays out each side's primary & secondary targets, plus the fighters' assignments accordingly. There are periodic updates on each side's status (objectives achieved), plus when a target is destroyed all players see a big announcement to that effect. The side that first destroys all designated targets "wins" with a big announcement across the screen. After about 5 minutes (with one-minute-interval warnings), the server shuts down and resets.

As I mentioned earlier, not everyone on the server wants to play and that's fine. Many just want to do their own thing, including "Airquake-style" dogfighting or airfield suppression (vulching) which is OK. Many of us, by necessity, have learned how to effectively deal with organized field suppression tactics and actually welcome it as a warm up to the real missions. :)

Hope I run into you on the server, Furbs!

Snapper

Our server does this. Air Combat Group (ACG).

We presently run all historical raids from August 12th 1940 in chronological order with detailed briefings and regular radar information for both sides. The raids are reduced in size obviously but we've had no trouble with 40+ AI being attacked by our Wing as they come in.

There is briefing info which updates according to the mission in operation. The missions are spaced in order to allow groups to land and prepare for the next, on both sides, which is what we presently do together already. If you follow the information you will become embroiled proper, but alternatively you can do whatever you like as AI are in operation all over the place in pairs/flights as psuedo-historic sweeps. Our missions are large so patience may be required for loading times - I am a stickler for mission accuracy and have a good eye for missions following experience making the USL missions and our squadron campaigns.

I didn't want to publish here today tbh as we are a work in progress and we've much work ahead of us. We have plans for the server when times are right for us. We've also restricted to 32 players for the time being but with all the AI there's not a shortage of action.

I think ATAG is great, it's a very pleasant server with guaranteed action and TS3 is marvellous - great fun co-operating with the chaps on there who are always friendly and helpful. It offers a different angle to our server with an objective option for both sides whereas we lean more to the 're-enactment' side. Our boys have spent a lot of time in there and will continue to do so, however in this case I get the feeling that furbs may not have ventured out much ;) *joke*. Don't write off the servers!

Check post #5 here for more.
http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=25721

Osprey that sounds great and cant wait to give it a try. If you want a few others to help test it then give me a bell.

It's always up (I think!) so you can jump in anytime. You can be alone and find lots of action just by following the missions, but probably best take a wingman at least ;)

Check the server list, Air Combat Group (ACG) and you can get our TS3 off the link I posted. Also........we're recruiting red and blue ;)

It is worth getting,because 1 day it will be very very good,at the moment it just looks lovely.

Cheese

A few of us just might Osprey, though would rather jump in when the rest of you are there.

Totally understandable. Weekend euro evenings best, especially Sundays. Feedback welcome too :p

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Mazex

can someone show me a link to a place selling this game for less than $50? I keep hearing people on here say, "get it, its cheap now" but everywhere I look its $50! Even Skyrim is less than that now.....

Ur late. It was 12 bucks at getgamesgo and Amazon....it was 10 bucks somewhere else but cant remember where....

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Originally Posted by 335th_GRAthos
The graphics card that will play this game with ease has not been in the market yet and may take a couple of years


My system has run COD with no problems since day one. I'm sure those with lesser systems will be able to run it just fine after the next patch which should be out soon. I've never seen a combat flight sim I wanted to fly run well with minimum to average spec systems. I've always bought the best sim I could afford and then upgraded many times during the life of the series to fly with max frames, and options.

I agree things will get better for those with problems now...I'm using a much lesser system than your's, and I'am enjoying the game, go figure:)

which resolution? (its a big difference)? Whats means ur enjoying? 30 FPS? 60 FPS? Do you have slowdowns when effects are near? Which ingame video settings? Low? Med? High?

If you find it on a weekend action - yes.

Forgetting the the sim was released unfinished and unoptimized. It doesn't matter what settings he chooses to run the game, the engine was designed so users could select less resource hungry options. Hopefully the next patch will end peoples problems running the sim on lower spec systems, although they will still probably have to select lower settings. Combat flight sims have always required very highend systems to run at the highest settings.

All I was saying is that I am able to start the game and enjoy it. Many can't do that without a ctd, I had a couple of those myself but I just press on and enjoy it. I'm looking forward to the patch to help us all...using here Dell p780 crt:)

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Crack On! ;)

See attached for my settings.. Along with some screen captures that show my wide view

If you'll get an i7-2600k along a Radeon 7970 or GTX 580 3 GB and 8 GB Ram CloD will have great fps - with occasional drops when particles are rendered (for instance, dust from explosions).

Single player is pretty useless atm, because of major quirks with radio comms and AI in general. Online it can be fun, if that is your cup of tea.

I wonder how many people played IL2 at these levels when it first came out?


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Is that FSAA in them shots? looks great :grin:

BWwaaah ha ha ha ha hah! :D

Oh, BTW. I think the video from last weeks update was the old graphic engine. B6 mentioned they were having issues with the decal markings. The clip showed formations WITH markings on them. I know I'm off track a bit, but the development update thread is locked.

Look's good AoA!:)

[QUOTE=danjama;392345]Hi everyone the only positive is that it looks fantastic in most aspects. But i don't want screenshot software.

What's the verdict? QUOTE]

It is fantastic. Buy it. Try it. Yes. Yes. It is the best airgame until the next IL2 game in the serie.

Payday, crunch time. Game is ordered. Now to buy a graphics card to match with my 1090t. It's between:

6850/550ti

5850/gtx 460/gtx 470

Any opinions guys?

Also, I have ordered the collectors edition, do i need to wait for it to arrive, or can i/will i get a code to enter into steam for download before recieving?

Pretty easy I'd say, gtx 470 FTW!:)

why don't you buy a 6950 with 2GB ?

Forget about the 550ti, its not much of a gaming card but I'm sure someone that has one may disagree.
Don't no how powerful your PC is or what resolution you'll be playing at but get the fastest GPU you can afford.

Is it worth getting? YES! has it's issues but most works beautifully. Where else can you see a Defiant and Whimpy flying together?

Funny, Creative Assembly have just stated their older Empire Total War is still selling strong, even though when released it had many bugs. It was and still is a great game .. just like Cliffs of Dover. Mods for Empire have improved it immensly, maybe a hint for 1C ?

Why developers keep reducing prices of great game is beyond me, mods and word of mouth will keep people buying.

.

For online experience check out this channel showing gameplay on ATAG server http://www.youtube.com/user/Semashko27/videos It is better to see for yourself than listen to others ))

Offline experience is limited by not working radio-commands and AI mistakes in some situations (like crash on landing). If you do not care about friendly AI crashing sometimes and not following your orders there are many great user-created campaigns available (see link #1 in my sig).

All these are very old video cards (like mine). They will not allow you to run the game in resolution higher than 1680x1050 with not very pleasant FPS and visual quality.

I would buy one of these second-hand only as a temporary solution till I save for gtx580/670/680/HD6970.

If the patch brings significant FPS increase you can go for ATI HD6950 imho.

Make sure you get 1.5, 2 or even 3 GB version to use high quality textures.

That card won`t do well with anything else than a fast i5/i7.

I have a 6870, as much as i know, is pretty much the same as the 6850. In my experience its a good card and moves the COD in a very decent frame rate with medium/high config...

As they say, i dont think that buying anything better is worth unless you got a nice CPU (i5 2500k or more), otherwise you would have a very unbalanced PC. I´m not good with computers but as far as i know you should always get Medium end Cpu/Medium end Gpu, High end Cpu/High end Gpu, etc.

Well, I went with the 6850 from my local shop just for the warranty really. Didnt fancy a used card, as ive been using used for years. It's nice having something new :)

Got the Asus OC version. Should do well.

Now just waiting for the game to arrive...ugh

Thanks for all the advice though guys. I got a good deal on the 6850 so if it doesn't do as I want in medium resolutions then i'll sell it on and save for something with more DDR onboard.

Hopefully the performance patch will arrive before your game arrives. The patch should help people with average system play the sim with decent frame rates when selecting the appropriate graphics options. The only problem with this scenario is more people will be able play and see all the work thats still required to make the sim playable offline. I'm sure the developer is well aware of that fact and will make every effort to release an AI, COMMANDS, FM patch as quickly as possible.

were? its still $50 on steam?

Well, if it costs at max. 10% of your hardware (probably only 3% to 5%) and gives you 10 hours entertainment you are in the positive zone, imo, any additional hour of entertainment out of this is pure gain.

Plus, you are supporting the still uncertain future of wwii-cfs.

I misunderstood...i thought there was some 24 hour %50 off sale somewhere in which case that would make 3 copies i would own :) check you PM please :)

I would say resounding YES, It has its issues but it will be a shining GEM one day, and if you can get it at reduced price then HEck yes. But be prepared for launcher crashes at the worst time. doesnt happen everytime, but its enough to get your goat after a long flight.

the thing has a HUUUGE potential, and nowdays it does run not that bad with a muscle pc setup (at least some N580GTX or N680GTX gfx card and a big cpu)

Just want to add one more post, CloD is a diamond in the rough, a really really beautiful really really rough diamond.

"and there's to high a percentage of online players who are outright hostile to you if you so much as hint at not knowing how to do everything."


This is not an issue on the ATAG server. Everybody stopped what they were doing to help me, wayyy before I joined ATAG (which is what prompted me to do so)

we all have a bloody hoot on that server, and at this time most of us really dont give a whiz for a stinkin patch. You see me on comms give me a holler and I'll fill you in on all the smutt on all the other guys ???????

Knuckles

+1

even with its current issues it is worth to buy.It makes Il2 1946 look and feel like an arcade game.

i've been flying il2 46 online for years, as well as other games. Not worried about the online crowd, and will definitely join you guys on comms.

Go for it without a doubt. It's a great sim with a great future IMO. To me the feeling of flight and attention to detail is unparalleled. The CTD issue is a problem but there's still plenty of fun to be had until it's patched.

If you're happy to use it on lower resolutions then it'll run quite happily on much older cards like my GTS 250. My processor is an older i7 2.66Ghz.

Should be even better with the up coming patch.

Yes, old games are also for $50 on steam. You can buy it for 15$ where I live.

I bought the collectors edition for £14.99 on Ubi website.

I think you will be glad you did. I had a lot of fun with IL2 1946, and put off buying CloD until couple of weeks ago - just have started getting into it but so far no regrets at all...

Hi Everyone,

I'm a new member with a few questions.
I already posted this in another thread (See here) so, sorry for the double post.

In hindsight this is a much better thread for my initial questions.

I have seen similar responses to other questions posted, but I would like to invite you all to respond to mine also.

The above-mentioned thankyou still stands. ;)

Cheers,
Hippy.

All your questions regard performance. So my answer is the quote above.

With that stated, I can tell you, I don't have performance issues with CloD - but I don't fly online and I don't mind the occasional slowdown when particle effects are rendered.

Dont get it yet.

Wait see what the patch offers then decide.

Performance - hard to say, really ; people with strong i7 processors have encountered big problems with performance ; too much jitter and lockups ; most other users suffer from problems such as : crash to desktop after ~2 hrs of playing the game ; big FPS slowdowns when close to smoke/exposions, minor graphic issues such as square lakes mostly seen from higher altitudes, very big FPS drop when heavy clouds are enabled ; SLI/Crossfire is a big no-no.

Does it run well? - at minimum specs nearly doesn`t ; it is playable for most users ; when you tweak the video settings it is ok on any medium hardware, thought the main problems I listed above are real show stoppers.

Does it still suffer from awful FPS I have seen stated so often in these forums? - this is caused by many people misinforming others for some reason ;other people just can`t be bothered to look for a thread with usable tips - as a result people try to run the game with SSAO enabled, anti-epilepsy enabled and highest texture settings. Cuts 70% fps from my point of view.

or on a high end rig is this now negligible? - I`ll tell you the truth ; some of us expect it will be like with the old IL-2 - that no high end rig will max CloD out for another 2-3 years, even with the graphic engine rewrite (supposedly doubles FPS)

Does it prefer Nvidia cards, AMD or no preference? - I`ll tell you one thing - if you aint got a fast CPU, no vid card will help you ; the thing I noticed is that people can be happy with Gf560Ti, whereas the supposedly faster AMD HD6950 gives some people poor performance (like me, I`m unhappy with it);

Should I just wait until the update mentioned in this thread, and ask again? - you best wait for the big patch that is coming ; OTOH, CloD is so cheap now, that if you didn`t mind some problems, you would enjoy it in its current state; although from the looks of the typical minded people complaining, I recommend you save yourself the problems and buy when the patch comes out. I would put it like this - you would be able to enjoy CloD now, only if you are the glass-half-full type of person.

You're basically in the position I was in; jitters about whether it will run, worries about my system etc. But if you look back, I did buy it this weekend, and now i'm waiting for it to be delivered. My reasoning was that I played '46 for so long, and anticipated this for so long, that I owed it to myself to buy it, if only to try it. If I can run it for two hours a pop on medium settings, then I will be chuffed. I usually fly online for an hour and take a break anyway.

My verdict; give it a go. Collectors edition in Ubi store for 14.99.

Buy it!

Exactly. I can add higher than 1920x1080 resolution, high landscape shading, houses details and forest to this list. Antivirus or triple buffering not set up correctly for the game or other processes running in the background are a frequent cause of issues as well.

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For my old system it runs at 35-45 fps online or offline with up to 30 AI. See the last link ( 8 ) in my sig for details.

What does the collectors edition include that is not with the standard? Maybe I should just go have a look see!

A patch that looks like a map and a box to bury it it....;)