Monday Heads Up 23/01/12 - Update coming soon
 

Monday Update:

We are actively working on a patch, there is some progress in optimizing graphics. However, the resulting performance data and information about changes in the near patch we will publish when we are 100% sure of the result, please wait.
Also, this Friday we'll post some screenshots of the new aircraft from the sequel.
Thank you for your understanding and expectation!

Thanks B6, look forward to it! Hope you had a good holiday.

Thanks Black6 for the info.

"We are actively working on a patch, there is some progress in optimizing graphics. However, the resulting performance data and information about changes in the near patch we will publish when we are 100% sure of the result, please wait.
Also, this Friday we'll post some screenshots of the new aircraft from the sequel.
Thank you for your understanding and expectation!"



I can hardly contain myself, pictures from the sequel, my cup over flows with excitement.
Thanks so much Luthier and the team. Its just what we all wanted to hear im sure.
please keep up all the hard work and we all really appreciate all your doing for us. your just awesome.
Im sure CLOD will be fixed very soon and i have some more money just waiting to buy BOM as soon as it hits the shops.

again i thank you very much.

Thanks Black Six.
Please tell them to turn the water reflections and orange sun sets back on in the next patch. Everything looks so depressing and dull right now.:(

Thanks B6, any chance of an eta for the patch?

And next weeks lotto numbers...:grin:

BlackSix, many thanks for update.

I think many players here would like to see screenshots from the new graphics engine too if possible as their priority is having CloD fixed and only then any Eastern front expansions as far as I understand from the last "Q&A" thread.

But speaking of BoM could you show some cockpits already? CloD cockpits are pieces of art and MG can be proud of this achievement. They make even MSFS addons or DCS ones look rather modest to me. I hope the same modellers are working on BoM and have the same resources available to them.

Thanks for update BlackSix. Personally I'm thoroughly enjoying this sim even with a fairly low spec setup. I can see the underlying qualities shining through and feel very positive about the direction it's heading. Just want the devs to know it's not all gloom and doom on the customer side.

Also thank your sound guy for doing a superb job in the last patch.

I will be happy to buy the add on when it is ready. I would still like to
see the progress on the development of the game at hand, and what is
new to the graphics engine. The game is awesome!! I would like to see
some improvements in the FPS, as even with my high end system, doing
certain things takes a huge hit on the FPS. It is still though quite enjoyable!

+1

Thank you!

Graphic effects are not final and will be adjusted.

Now I have no information on release dates, sorry.

We only show what has already been done. If cockpits are not complete - we will not publish them.

Thank you!

Excellent news!

http://blog.gadgethelpline.com/wp-co...sExcellent.gif

Keep the more frequent news coming...

Hi B6,

Thank yiu for keeping us informed. These are great news. I am an virtual enthusiast since more than 30 years. I had many sims. Sure i didnt miss IL-2.

SO i will support MG and for sure i will buy the sequel. A game without the IL-2? NO, not for me. Its one of my favorite airplanes on the russian side.

Cant wait to have a fully working CLOD and BOM.

Keep up the good work.

Cheers

LC

WOooooHoooo, they are actively working on the patch, great news Black Six and thank you.

surprize surprize...Wo..Ho...

Thank you for the update .

so much sarcasm in one thread...

Thank you for the update Blacksix.

Cool. Looking forward to a proper update when you are 100% sure.

thanks B6 :grin:

If this date is true, then we will wait on a patch a long, long, long time...

Monday Update 23/11/12

:lol:

Wohoho

Thanks B6

great news. there will be a patch!

cant wait, ETA will probably be, like every single il2 patch, in my next exam season, so march i guess.

Thank You B6 for the info. Good news.

I second to Ataros... Could be interesting to see some screenshots about the new graphics engine... but any other screens or information will be wellcome ;-)

Regards

I wrote this sim off months ago, but updates like this give me some hope.
More details on where in the development cycle the new graphics engine is would have been great.

Wisdom ;)

Salute !

Same here, and as sure i will bite my a...nticipation for having done so :) :grin:

Is it planned to fix ground fps when your aircraft is running?

thanks for the word.

The situation seems much less dire now...looking forward to reaching England and enjoying my investment.:-)

Well, they are working. It was to be expected, was it not?

+1

thanks BS

Thanks for the great news Black 6!

Thx for the information B6. When I entered the Forum I first thought: "Patch!!!!! Yeah :-) )

Nice to hear that work is going on...

I am pretty sure everyone is aware of that. But now, at least, we have a more precise idea on what they are working on. And these are good news for COD as well as future developpements.
It seems like there are able now to work simultaneously on both "front" :rolleyes:
Salute !

So they are working on the patch...OK, fine.

Here's the good news...IMHO...they must fix CLoD and get it working properly before they have ANY hope of getting the community excited about buying any sequel. For this reason I know they are working hard to polish this diamond in the rough.

Unless another developer steps up the plate with a better WWII sim people here will go ecstatic and will eat whatever bone Maddox games gives us .. even if its substandard...

Sweet! Thanks for the update Black Six, I look forward to seeing the WIP pics

:grin:

Thanks for the update. Hopefully we see some new planes screenshots on Friday. Maybe an FW 190? Mig 3?

I've been really enjoying CloD in it's current state for the past couple weeks. After some tweaks it's been running great for me. Can't wait for even more improvement in performance. (AA is badly needed).

You might like this solution till they are able to integrate it in game http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=28978

Great, always good to hear news!

Performance
 

Thanks BlackSix...encouraging

Can you say the work will include a solution for the Freezes/Crashes...Launcher Error? Without this..... all else is for naught

Try my SMAA configuration, it does a good work :

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?p=383599

Is a good replacement until the true AA is fixed.

thanks for the update very looking forward to to the next patch and game.

might be jumping the gun but im looking forward to p-51 vs fw190's, and zeros and hellcats with this game engine. gonna be awsome. maybe in a couple of yeasr, besides ill have a new pc by then.

Yup I can confirm this works, been using it a while from another source.

Some info links

MLAA

http://www.geeks3d.com/20101023/tips...aliasing-mlaa/

SMAA

http://www.geeks3d.com/20111101/smaa...-antialiasing/


:)



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Still patiently waiting. Looking forward to 109's actually being damaged when hit.

@Jolly, dude, the patch will be FOC, the BoM will be a paid addon. Same doctrine as original IL2.

Ops ... I mean SMAA *fixed*

It took me a time find a balance between the AA quality and the Predication tech but it looks really nice, high quality AA on cockpit and nice trees and houses with no performance hit and textures messing :)

I haven't played Cliffs of Dover in ages. The patch will be a great excuse to get back into it!

Agree. When IL2 4.11 patch was released, I switched back to IL2 because of all the flyable planes. I will test this new CoD patch, but I think I'll really return to this new series only once BoM can be bought. So many things in IL2 are working so well now.

My wife says i'm a very patient man and she should know, being married 33 years,but i couldn't supress a little smile when i read in the update: quote: "there is some progress in optimizing graphics" unquote
After so many months: "some progress"...doesn't make sense
But as said , i'm a patient man, so good luck Devs, i'll wait.I have no other option

Thanks for the update BlackSix.

:cool:I'm missing, together with the Wing i'm flying with, no point at all.Hence we and i'll wait, as i am a patient man,but then again, in an update, i wouldn't call 50% performance boost "some progress",PR wise speaking, i would call it "a huge progress"...unless...i dunno
No problem on my side, i'll wait. Hence i'm married for 33 years:cool:

Is this the one your talking about. i see no problem with it, although I doubt they would be able to address all the problems in a few months, when its taken years to get to this point.

seems to be back, probably my mistake to have missed it, although it wasn't there.no prob,i'll wait

agreed....

I agree and same people are wondering why there is so little info now. LMFAO We probably won't seeing anything in the updates, that they're aren't absolutely sure it will make the patch or sequel.

Guys this was not a formal dev update, it was a polite and generous heads up via B6 that they have made progress and are still working on the patch and they will take some time to provide some more info and screen shots on Friday.

So stop the crap.

Will we get any info on an sdk?

So in the end, would have been better keeping quiet until Friday, and avoid sarcasm , negative comments and.... crap....? As you can see, any " we're still working" or " its coming" and " be patient" updates without more precise informations or new things to show, a this point in the whole saga, is kind of futile IMHO.
Those kind of " generous heads up" will always trigger more questions without answers, more frustrations and in the end, like you said, ...crap....
I personnaly prefer total abscence of " no news updates" so that way we just cant whine anymore... And wait for the real thing, like real new screens and patch ETA, so we could then whine about someting tangible.:cool:

SAlute !

I know what you mean, but while that's what you'd rather, others begin to complain about the lack of communication. You really can't please everybody, but since B6 has started to post here it seems a little less hostile (not discrediting all the work the mods have been up to recently, don't get me wrong) around here and we have been a lot more informed. People don't seem to be very patient with results, but since this is surely a time consuming process there may not be anything to tell us that we really need to know when people start to be vocal about being updated, so we get an update without much meat. Factor in the forum's tendency to wildly speculate about any morsel thrown to us and I certainly understand the team's hesitation to give us all of the details at an early state, or even any state before it's ready for release.

Having said all that, I am a little disheartened by the word choice (some, in particular) indicating less than stellar progress, but then it is supposed to be a complete overhaul, so I may be expecting too much too soon. All my skepticism is shooed away immediately with BoM screens coming though. I must have looked at the IL-2 a dozen times, and the prospect of more to oogle is definitely an exciting one. I just hope that all the demands of certain planes (Namely the 190, as much as I love it) will frustrate the devs and influence them to make the expansion less historical in the interest of those who want their favourite planes. I want an FW-190 or a P-40 as much (or more) than the next guy, but I think we may need to rein it in a bit, because if they weren't used in any significant way in the actual BoM, then I don't want to see them in it and Luthier has proven to cave in to complaints over realism on rare occasion.

all i care about is the memory leak, why isn't there a hot fix for this? :evil:

This has been answered so many times now... Please do a search! The next patch will address a number of issues.

PS take your trolling elsewhere.

Pleasing everyone is..well...like you said...
As developpement of both the patch and sequel are concerned, again, if they do not want any negative comments, better not telling to much, neither showing to much. Like they are actually doing now.
But regarding communications, B6 was officially introduced to us few weeks ago as the PR guy who would come here and be Luthier's voice to keep us updated. He is the guy we talk to, ask questions to and...yes...complain to.
But when we are told that a quick 3 sentences short incursion in this forum from the PR guy is a "polite and generous heads up", as a kind of special favor
to us, therefore shouldn't be critisized, well I dont get it. Isn't it his job ?
Well, if not, like I said, silence is better if 1C wants to avoid at any price negative comments. Lets keep those for the real updates and WIP...Like we used to do....:rolleyes:

Come on guys please be reasonable, a lot of people everywhere have not even gone back to work yet, and those that have, have hardly been back for a week. It was the holiday season after all!

Now that everyone is pretty much back and the work has started again on the patch after the break, i think you will all be pleasantly surprised if you can just be a little more reasonable and patient. And yes B6 was trying to do the right thing by communicating a little information ahead of time, and all some of you could do was shoot the messenger. Way to go. If you want more information you have to earn the respect of the PR team and developers to show you can take on bits and pieces of information without blowing everything out of proportion and crying the sky is falling.

Thanks for the update. Hope you guys understand we appreciate your hard work and continued support. Even if there are people complaining it is because they love their flight sims and are hoping for something they can fly for the next 10 years.

Looking forward to future updates when you have the time.

Out.

It will be fixed with the new graphic engine.

is it this ;

"Performance. We are in final stages of testing a thorough overhaul of the game’s graphic engine. It won’t look any different but it will be much more streamlined. It’s too early to say what the FPS increase will be in the final version, but it shouldn’t be less than 50%. "

or is it that :


"there is some progress in optimizing graphics"

:confused::rolleyes:

Both. If you search for BlackSix's and luthier's posts you will see that they faced huge difficulties with this new engine in December and now are working hard to overcome them. This it is good that any progress is made as there could be none at all. "it shouldn’t be" doesn't mean "it will not be" ;)

I think the point Aero was making is that at first the statement was they were in 'final' stages of testing, and subsequently the next update says 'some' progress.

but my reading of it is that they have finalised the overhaul and are making some progress in the optimization of the new engine.

As far as I know it is not. He was hired as a mission designer (he used to do this for MG in the past) and community projects manager (1)to collect info from community for BoM on airgroup locations, etc. and 2)creation of community manual). This info was supposed to be collected on the Russian forums only because of the language barrier and because more information on VVS is available in Russia. Western community will benefit of all the results of these projects when they are ready and translated. Source http://www.sukhoi.ru/forum/showthread.php?t=73239

Because these projects were to be carried out on the Russian forums and because BlackSix was an old forum member for 10+ years already he agreed to provide also some information on game progress on those forums (otherwise community would not be that eager to provide information to him). This is not his job but rather extra responsibility.

The above may be not 100% correct, just my conclusions based on facts.

The fact that he writes here anything in English is only his goodwill because UBI is responsible for PR outside Russia as the publisher. UBI keeps and spends the communication budget for all the countries outside Russia. You paid your money to UBI and have all the rights to request customer service including communication from them or take them to court if the game does not 'work' or communication is not good enough. This is how business works. All communication here and the existence of this forum itself is only 1C and the devs goodwill.

Thank you and keep it up!

Yes. What I mean is testing is done to find issues. This can happen on final stage too. Thus they found a huge issue that prevents them from making big progress as they informed the community in December already. Some just missed these announcements and base their expectations on wrong (outdated) information.

And regarding too high expectations in general I wrote some time ago http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpos...&postcount=965

To me thinking of 50% increase always seemed to be too optimistic. Com'on don't you know Parkinson's laws :) The remaining 20% of work always takes 80% of time. It is true. Been there. (... or was it Pareto's? But Parkinson's are not better :) lol)

I agree with most of what you write, Ataros, but I don't agree with this. Technically you may be correct but it is so hugely in 1C's interest to promote in the west that in reality rather than technicality you are wrong.

Fact: Ubi is doing a rubbish job at promoting/communicating.

Fact: Promotion is required outside of Russia.

Result: 1C is promoting/communicating outside Russia.

Unfortunately, the way business works is that very little is done for "goodwill", at least in my experience. The party who has most skin in the game always ends up picking up the slack.

The existence of this forum? Due to the fact that promotion is required. If you wish to drag goodwill into the picture then it is limited to the fact that goodwill from the customer is required for the next purchase. Luthier has already made his views of this forum quite plain - I doubt he would bother if he really had a choice!

Having said all that, I'm having an absolute blast online whilst patiently waiting for the patch and looking forward to BoM immensely.

Yes. And the above does not make it an 1C obligation and therefore BlackSix's obligation as some may imagine. UBI has this obligation because they are paid for this as a publisher. MG is paid for development only. 1C is paid for communication within Russia only because it is a publisher in Russia only. This is what I mean.

Same with customers who did not have an obligation to purchase the game or sequel. Some here act as if 1C obliged them to purchase the game or a new PC lol :) This was their goodwill/freewill only. Maybe I should use a better word than goodwill :)

Spinetti/Sutts/Ataros moved your posts here:
http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=29311

thanks for the words, ...
 

... but with all the Battle of Moscow talking, I hope they dont forget to fix online multiplayer. I am not at all happy with it. The game still crashes regularly after about 50 minutes online, planes are warping around like UFOs and disappearing suddenly.

I havent been flying for quite some time and if, I only was flying offline. Thanks to desastersoft we have at least a good campaign addon for CloD available!

:-|

Try changing your network speed in game (try xDSL or ISDN). This is not a common issue as I can see from ATAG forum thread on this forums or from videos recorded on ATAG server http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=29297. A lot of fun is actually going on there. (Launcher crash is a big issue though.)

How about some DLC for funding? I'll happily snap up extras

I hope you put your asbestos suit on before posting that!

Krupi: Thats funny !!

You know I have started to suggest funding on several subjects: however as i dont have an asbestos suit, I decided not to ??


Knuckles

Looking forward to the next word!

nice news.

When I advice that is implemented a very nice dynamic quick mission builder, i will buy this sim. i the other stuff, is great, is the best.:)

can I request a pic of the Bf 109 F-2 from the new sequel, please? and don't be cheap with the skins.;)

DLC would nice that way what people are interested in having get purchased and whatever not wont. You could always buy a second copy of CoD through Steam. I have and will gift it away.

Dlc
 

Im not a fan of DLC as it seems to devide online communities.:evil:

Now wheres tha flamethrower?:-P

DLC is a tricky one - I don't mind paying but don't want the community divided. Don't know any other way forward except for the current expansions model.

I'm fully in agreement regarding BlackSix - very appreciative of his efforts! There's a saying about not shooting the messenger which some would do well to remember.

Just for you Boris :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9DkciMTsLI

Would be nice if they put up one of these

Guys thanks for being patient it is really appreciated.

The moderators are working really hard behind the scenes to get you as much useful information as possible regarding the current state of bug patching, but please be aware Blacksix is not a developer, he is a modeller/designer in the team doing us a favour by providing information on the content he and the team are working on.

We have raised all of your concerns about communication with 1C and are looking at ways to make useful information available that doesnt become out of date a day after its posted.. such is the dilema with code crunching compared with modelling. Things can change daily and they dont have time to communicate that kind of detail on a daily basis, or even weekly when it comes to code changes, bugs are just so un-predictable until they have fully tested them.

So in summary, just because they post details about the new content doesnt mean the old bugs have been left behind. It is just a much easier task to talk about progress with the new models than it is about the bug patching. But the moderators are working with the dev team to look at a way to show you more information on their progress.

FS~Phat, I agree. You all need a break. We have been used to Oleg's way for so many years, and even Luthier was following his path. Now, it has changed. We have to adjust. We all are struggling to get a hold on what is going on, what will happen and when it will happen. On our side, moderators and developpers have to remember (!) that the community has been hoping for COD for more than 6 years now. On the other hand, this project who seems to have been close to death (!) is reviving because of a dedicated bunch of
hard working geeks:rolleyes:....By reading most of the posts, apart some sad inter-personnal vendettas, it feels like the whole tone is settling down. I would say that slowly but surely we all getting the pace now. So good job to the moderators. And thanks for taking the time to explain how you feel on the "other side"
Salute !

A short information heads up, full of hope!

Thank you Black six! :)

~S~

+1
Thank you, moderators, for stepping in to save this forum. It is a hard job. Appreciate it.

Thank you for the update. Looking forward to the patch and Battle of Moscow.
Since 1C is promoting the future product, maybe we can get some Bf109F2/Lagg-1(3) screenies? Some Russian landscapes?

And while you`re at it, please don`t plan on releasing BoM next to the other AAA blockbusters. Eg. if BoM was to be released in march, I`d be forced to resign from buying Mass Effect 3! :D

Thanks again.

Excited to hear about the progress, and the Battle of Moscow ;) Thanks to the Moderators for keeping things civil! Forums can often turn into one big mash pit if
no one is minding the store!

I hope if in the forum there's less , we'll receive more feedback :)

Yes! I myself want to play in Mass Effect 3 and the new Total War in March. Release the sequel will not be in March! No free time ;)

New total war!!! What era are they doing now?

Swords against guns, Samurais against imperialist forces (UK, US as example) around 1870.

Ah same era, kinda bored of it now... King Arthur rts are my new fav but king Arthur 2 is not working well ATM so they pushed back the release date. It's total war with a fantasy and rpg element it would be amazing if they can find out why it's got shoddy performance. I pre ordered it and gained access to a prologue campaign but have not being able to play it due to the bugs :(

Sorry if a bit OT but rumours have it the next game in the Total War series will be Rome: Total War 2. If that's true then I will be a very VERY happy man.:)

Thanks B6 for the updates. Even if there's not much to comment, news from the development team are always appreciated.