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EZ1 12-12-2011 10:32 PM

Some Multi-player Questions
 
During play I see a big message in the middle of the screen like "Wellingtons spotted over xxxx" or "HE111s request escort...". Every time I see these messages they seem to lead me into a wild goose chase and I never find anything. Are these messages supposed to be acurate?

Then there are the messages that scroll at the top right of the screen that are about the same size as the chat--are they meaningfull or what?

It would have been nice of C1 to put some of this crap in the manual!

nuNce 12-12-2011 11:30 PM

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=28366

ATAG_Bliss 12-12-2011 11:34 PM

I'm assuming your talking about our server here?

If so, yes they are very accurate, and those messages are all based on various types of triggers. So the only way they pop off is if planes are actually going through them.

When you are asked to escort, you'll generally have 10-15 minutes to get to the area it tells you to meet up with the bombers. Not only does it tell you the location and ETA, you should get the altitude. The same holds true when enemy bombers have been spotted "East of XXX", "West of XXX" (at so much altitude) You can expect that the location given is where they'll eventually pass through in the 10-15 minute window and at the location and altitude called out in the message.

So yes, they are all there and en route accurately according to the messages. But there's always a chance someone could have headed out east or west and shot them down before hand as well.

SEE 12-12-2011 11:49 PM

Just one tip, when you see a grid reference e.i. M13 with an enemy group i.e, 5 Heinkells at 4000M you need to allow for the group to have moved into the next sector on their flightpath by the time you read it on screen. Open your map and navigate to intercept somewhere ahead or behind to pick them up

Make sure your altitude is higher than the enemy group, you will see them much easier and, as you approach, scan for enemy escorts before engaging.

EZ1 12-13-2011 01:47 PM

Yesterday, I saw the message requesting escort by HE111s. I got there (the right place and alt) in about the right time, circled for a long time and saw nothing. I wasn't actually timing by a clock so I may have just missed them. When a flight of enemy are reported at a location, I usually try to intercept them on the course I expect them to take to a target. I guess I will just keep trying.

bw_wolverine 12-13-2011 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by EZ1 (Post 369759)
Yesterday, I saw the message requesting escort by HE111s. I got there (the right place and alt) in about the right time, circled for a long time and saw nothing. I wasn't actually timing by a clock so I may have just missed them. When a flight of enemy are reported at a location, I usually try to intercept them on the course I expect them to take to a target. I guess I will just keep trying.

It took a while for me to get the timing right too, but once you figure it out, you rarely miss an intercept. Altitude is key.

Osprey 12-13-2011 06:20 PM

Yup, on Sunday I picked up the message about Ju88's west of Calais. 10 mins later there they were. I subsequently sent two down into the channel :)

jimbop 12-14-2011 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by EZ1 (Post 369759)
Yesterday, I saw the message requesting escort by HE111s. I got there (the right place and alt) in about the right time, circled for a long time and saw nothing. I wasn't actually timing by a clock so I may have just missed them. When a flight of enemy are reported at a location, I usually try to intercept them on the course I expect them to take to a target. I guess I will just keep trying.

Yes, altitude is key since you will struggle to spot targets far above or below. Also, you don't need to guess direction since you are often given their bearing as well as location. This usually gives solid target data for multiple AI targets.

EZ1 12-14-2011 12:05 PM

OK, so last night I got the message that some Blenheims were spotted over xxx so I got on an intesept course and spotted them heading toward the French coast. I started a wide turn to hit them from the high 8, I had visual contact the entire time. BUT! Just as the got to the coast they vanished! I was within a few seconds of striking distance.

Bounder! 12-14-2011 07:10 PM

dumb question sort of related - when playing on multiplayer servers with full realism on like the ATAC server, is there way of telling where I am on on the map since I can't see the icon of my plane on the map? Is it a case of looking around and trying to spot landmarks or are there any better methods for finding / working out my location?

Cheers

jimbop 12-14-2011 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Bounder! (Post 370138)
dumb question sort of related - when playing on multiplayer servers with full realism on like the ATAC server, is there way of telling where I am on on the map since I can't see the icon of my plane on the map? Is it a case of looking around and trying to spot landmarks or are there any better methods for finding / working out my location?

Cheers

Landmarks (the bays and promontories of the coastline in particular). This is easy if you start on a coastal airfield but learning navigation helps if starting inland. Not compulsory though - just head in roughly the right direction until you spot the coast and then pick out some landmarks.

ATAG_Bliss 12-14-2011 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by EZ1 (Post 370050)
OK, so last night I got the message that some Blenheims were spotted over xxx so I got on an intesept course and spotted them heading toward the French coast. I started a wide turn to hit them from the high 8, I had visual contact the entire time. BUT! Just as the got to the coast they vanished! I was within a few seconds of striking distance.

Welcome to IL2COD bug # 890,001! This is a known issue that hopefully is caused by some sort of graphical bug. But the easiest way to avoid them is knowing how to know they're ghosts long before you get there. The easiest way to do this is to fly straight at them (especially if you see a formation of them). If you don't see the dots changing altitude (as you'd see a group of humans in formations) but instead they are stuck in one spot.

The other way is to pay attention to the radar contacts. They never call out the ghosts.

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Originally Posted by Bounder! (Post 370138)
dumb question sort of related - when playing on multiplayer servers with full realism on like the ATAG server, is there way of telling where I am on on the map since I can't see the icon of my plane on the map? Is it a case of looking around and trying to spot landmarks or are there any better methods for finding / working out my location?

Cheers

Only way is to open the map (you can zoom all the way in on it) and use it to spot landmarks and where you are. It doesn't take long to get navigation down though. There is a learning curve, just like anything, but after a while you'll wonder why you ever flew with icons on, at least IMO.

wildwillie 12-14-2011 08:04 PM

Bounder -

With icons/minimap stuff turned off, you have to find your location by Dead reconing. Over the channel is difficult, but the more alt you get the easier it is to make out the features of the coastline, same goes for being over land. You just have to pull up the map, zoom in and start finding reference points. Once you have flown on a specific portion of a map a few times you get to know the area.

WildWillie

Bounder! 12-14-2011 08:13 PM

Thanks very much for the replies chaps - I figured following the coast line and trying to spot landmarks was probably the way to do it but thought I'd ask just in case as I'm a noob... just been learning how to set the compass and directional indicator too. Hopefully get online soon.

Cheers


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