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uksub 11-25-2011 11:09 AM

Should I buy CLOD now?
 
Reading through quite a few threads on here, it looks like its getting to a useable and enjoyable state.
Am I correct in this assumption or does the bad outweigh the good.

Have they fixed the joystick mapping etc and are the main slide show framerate issues etc sorted out now?

Thanks for any opinions in advance.

jg27_mc 11-25-2011 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uksub (Post 364367)
Reading through quite a few threads on here, it looks like its getting to a useable and enjoyable state.
Am I correct in this assumption or does the bad outweigh the good.

Have they fixed the joystick mapping etc and are the main slide show framerate issues etc sorted out now?

Thanks for any opinions in advance.

If your an online flyer and have a decent computer got for it. At this stage and despite all issues/bug I think it's worth it.

Regards.

VA_Deacon 11-25-2011 11:17 AM

"Should I buy CLOD now?"
 
Yes.

Jg300_Shoki 11-25-2011 11:20 AM

No. Buy RoF or Il1946 or wait for better flight simulator.

uksub 11-25-2011 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jg27_mc (Post 364368)
If your an online flyer and have a decent computer got for it. At this stage and despite all issues/bug I think it's worth it.

Regards.

I am a pretty keen flyer and have an i5 oc'd to 4.6ghz and a decent card, so am sorely tempted to give it a crack. I have been palying DCS A-10 for a few months and wouldnt mind getting back into some old kit.

Thanks

Anders_And 11-25-2011 11:41 AM

the you will be fine! I have a I5-750 overclocked to 4Ghz. Not sure what videocard u are running but its workd fine with my 1gb Nvidia GTX280.

Make sure u are running 64bit windows to get access to that extra bit of RAM!!
Lets us know what u do :)

Verhängnis 11-25-2011 11:48 AM

You may wish to read through my thread before purchasing, but I think you should be able to run CoD fine, especially since new patches are incoming and Luthier stated a minimum 50% FPS increase in the nearby future. :)

http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.ph...c,15330.0.html

uksub 11-25-2011 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anders_And (Post 364377)
the you will be fine! I have a I5-750 overclocked to 4Ghz. Not sure what videocard u are running but its workd fine with my 1gb Nvidia GTX280.

Make sure u are running 64bit windows to get access to that extra bit of RAM!!
Lets us know what u do :)

I've got a 2gb 7900 win 764 and 4gb of ram so hopefully that should so the business.

Thanks, I am going to Dl it tonight.

Are the controls all sorted out now in terms of being able to map them easily etc?

jg27_mc 11-25-2011 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uksub (Post 364382)
I've got a 2gb 7900 win 764 and 4gb of ram so hopefully that should so the business.

Thanks, I am going to Dl it tonight.

Are the controls all sorted out now in terms of being able to map them easily etc?

Don't know if I understand your question. Regarding my personal experience I never had problems mapping keys to my controls (CH HOTAS + CH Pedals + CH Quadrant). But then again I only fly 109's, don't really know if there are problems related to other planes (e.g. bombers etc)...

Regards.

JG53Frankyboy 11-25-2011 01:16 PM

they are easy to map, they are just a lot if you fly more than a 109 ;)

Just make sure you have disabled the "antropomorph" thing and enabled "change crew positions" in the realsim settings !

Tvrdi 11-25-2011 01:47 PM

buy it...its almost free now....if they fail you will lost few buck unlike some of us...and a dream...

SIDWULF 11-25-2011 05:16 PM

Buy it now.

After flying Cliffs Of Dover i find it difficult to go back to IL2 1946.

Flying in Cliffs of Dover just feels very realistic.

zapatista 11-25-2011 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tvrdi (Post 364413)
buy it...its almost free now....if they fail you will lost few buck unlike some of us...and a dream...

almost free ? got url ?

there were a few good sales on a couple of websites but they only lasted a couple of weeks afaik, and none available now (or likely before xmass again ?)

its basically at full price still most of the time, with some variation in prices between different countries

jayrc 11-26-2011 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SIDWULF (Post 364455)
Buy it now.

After flying Cliffs Of Dover i find it difficult to go back to IL2 1946.

Flying in Cliffs of Dover just feels very realistic.

1+ :grin:

TomVolume4 11-26-2011 01:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SIDWULF (Post 364455)
Buy it now.

After flying Cliffs Of Dover i find it difficult to go back to IL2 1946.

Flying in Cliffs of Dover just feels very realistic.

+1

Cockpits in Il-2 1946 look cartoonish and ..... hm.... ugly....

hiro 11-26-2011 01:41 AM

check your planned system specs and OS upgrades; your hardware (video card) and see how it stacks against other poster's (look around / search da forum).

Pay attention to see if your video card / system set up is a 'red' flag* hardware . And you have to make sure the posts you compare to, people have the current patch . . .

*specific brand / model that has known issues with CLoD




Then if you feel your system can stack up, go for it. It is research and work but given the nature of the game's development, it'll only help.

drewpee 11-26-2011 02:07 AM

Sorry mate but don't be such a sheep and follow others so much. Personally I got the game on release. That was my choice, no one else's. I knew the game required a good rig so for a year before release I started buying parts for a new pc (most expensive parts were brought second hand to minimize cost). I've enjoyed the game from the first day(how long has that been) and am pretty up to date with it's development of flight/damage model.
The longer you wait the further behind your skills will get and the more fun you will miss out on. Hey and if you don't like it then you have the right to leave it on the shelf and get a life.(attempt at hummer not an insult)

Prime Time 11-30-2011 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TomVolume4 (Post 364548)
+1

Cockpits in Il-2 1946 look cartoonish and ..... hm.... ugly....

Yes but that 190 in DBW with new engine sounds....

VF101-jay 11-30-2011 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anders_And (Post 364377)
the you will be fine! I have a I5-750 overclocked to 4Ghz. Not sure what videocard u are running but its workd fine with my 1gb Nvidia GTX280.

Make sure u are running 64bit windows to get access to that extra bit of RAM!!
Lets us know what u do :)

I say buy it, it does have it's issues but get into a turning fight with those shadows moving over the cockpit and you will forget all about them.

Anders- what settings are you able to run with your GTX280, and do you happen to have any video posted (I am planning to upgrade from XP and hope to see improvement in graffic and FPS with my GTX280). I can have graffics maxed over water but to get good FPS over land I have to make ground detail look like it's from the 90's version of Microsoft Combat Flight Simulator 1.

Chivas 11-30-2011 11:04 PM

I say buy it now, and if you want the development to succeed, buy it from Steam, it may be more expensive but atleast the developer might see more profit from that sale. Buying the sim cheap may be fine for you in the short term, but not healthy for the genre in the long term.

icarus 12-01-2011 04:30 PM

Buy it now. You can't lose. Google and you will find it as low as $12.99 as DLC.

Its worth 15-20 bucks but not 50 IMO.

robtek 12-01-2011 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by icarus (Post 366272)
Buy it now. You can't lose. Google and you will find it as low as $12.99 as DLC.

Its worth 15-20 bucks but not 50 IMO.

Are you spoiled!!!!

You'll gladly spend 30 bucks for a evening in a movie theatre with your GF/wife and 2h fun but you are bickering about 50 bucks for something that gives you many, many hours of entertainment???

Regarding the usual costs for entertainment/h CoD is easily worth a few hundred bucks!

uksub 12-01-2011 05:46 PM

Downloading now, thx for the opinions.

JG52Uther 12-01-2011 05:51 PM

Great! Any questions, and I'm sure you'll have a few, just come and ask!

icarus 12-01-2011 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robtek (Post 366285)
Regarding the usual costs for entertainment/h CoD is easily worth a few hundred bucks!

ROTFLMFAO!!!!!!!

A product for 50 bucks and also 12 bucks and it is unfinished. Which do I pay??? You'd obviously pay hundreds of bucks. If it was worth hundreds of bucks, that would be the price. When its finished it might be worth fifty, but not as it is now.

Funniest thing I've heard all day.

Chivas 12-01-2011 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by icarus (Post 366355)
ROTFLMFAO!!!!!!!

A product for 50 bucks and also 12 bucks and it is unfinished. Which do I pay??? You'd obviously pay hundreds of bucks.

Funniest thing I've heard all day.

If your a WW2 aircombat simmer you'd want to pay a reasonable sum, that would provide enough financing to keep the development in business. The new IL-2 series won't be in business long if people buy their product for 12 bucks. The sim is worth way more than the 50 dollar investment especially if the developer is able finish COD and continue with their planned theater expansions. Hopefully the developers will be able to sort things out and make some monies out of the Battle for Moscow addon.

You may make a great buy at twelve dollars, but your not seeing or may never see the big picture.

robtek 12-01-2011 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by icarus (Post 366355)
ROTFLMFAO!!!!!!!

A product for 50 bucks and also 12 bucks and it is unfinished. Which do I pay??? You'd obviously pay hundreds of bucks.

Funniest thing I've heard all day.

I've paid 70 Euro for it and i've already had a few hundred hours fun with it.

I've already got my moneys worth and i'll be getting more without extra costs.

As i've said, you're spoiled and your values are out of relation.

The people who pay less now are the lucky ones which are getting tons of fun almost as a present.

Tavingon 12-01-2011 10:17 PM

Don't hesitate... click buy!

icarus 12-01-2011 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robtek (Post 366370)
I've paid 70 Euro for it and i've already had a few hundred hours fun with it.

I've already got my moneys worth and i'll be getting more without extra costs.

As i've said, you're spoiled and your values are out of relation.

The people who pay less now are the lucky ones which are getting tons of fun almost as a present.

My values are out of relation??? Since when is not wanting to overpay for something that is flawed and unfinished "out of relation"???

As far as I see it your spoiled that you can overspend on something that you do not need to overspend on. Now that is values "out of relation."

bottom line is...buy this game. If you want to try it at a cheap price because it is unfinished and has many problems go ahead. If you want to throw money at it in a desperate attempt to keep devs working go ahead also. Just don't criticize the values of those who don't want to.

Chivas 12-02-2011 02:46 AM

After enjoying 10 years of decent cheap entertainment from the developer, I think its rather weak not caring enough to support the project, when there is a good possiblility of even greater entertainment for another ten years.

icarus 12-02-2011 03:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chivas (Post 366417)
After enjoying 10 years of decent cheap entertainment from the developer, I think its rather weak not caring enough to support the project, when there is a good possiblility of even greater entertainment for another ten years.

Some might think its weak to invest 20 years into a WWII computer game.

Chivas 12-02-2011 06:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by icarus (Post 366421)
Some might think its weak to invest 20 years into a WWII computer game.

I hope I have atleast another ten years left, although I get weaker every year. LMAO

robtek 12-02-2011 06:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by icarus (Post 366388)
My values are out of relation??? Since when is not wanting to overpay for something that is flawed and unfinished "out of relation"???

As far as I see it your spoiled that you can overspend on something that you do not need to overspend on. Now that is values "out of relation."

bottom line is...buy this game. If you want to try it at a cheap price because it is unfinished and has many problems go ahead. If you want to throw money at it in a desperate attempt to keep devs working go ahead also. Just don't criticize the values of those who don't want to.

There is again this broken record mantra "flawed and unfinished" as if this were something special regarding to CoD.

Most, if not all, Software is "flawed and unfinished" when it is published.

Ok, in the case of CoD it was a bit more than usual, WAS!, now CoD is for the majority of players enjoyable, even in this "flawed and unfinished" state.

You, Sir, are calling a few cent per hour entertainment overpaid, that is out of relation for me.

flyingblind 12-02-2011 08:40 AM

It dosen't matter when you buy it as all future updates and improvements for CloD are entirely free. This is a pretty complex game so the sooner you buy it the earlier and more time you will get to tackle the enourmouse learning curve you will need to get your head around the ins and outs of all the controls needed to fly properly. So when all the glitches are ironed out you will be good to go.

uksub 12-02-2011 08:50 AM

:-)Well, Ive downloaded it now and played it for a couple of hours and i'm impressed. my rig handles it fine, with little or no stuttering and a decent frame rate.

FM is good and I'm getting my head round the engine management slowly.

Glad I bought it!!!!!

flyingblind 12-02-2011 08:56 AM

Excellent - another happy camper!

uksub 12-02-2011 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flyingblind (Post 366465)
Excellent - another happy camper!

Indeed I am.

Thanks all.

Tavingon 12-02-2011 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uksub (Post 366464)
:-)Well, Ive downloaded it now and played it for a couple of hours and i'm impressed. my rig handles it fine, with little or no stuttering and a decent frame rate.

FM is good and I'm getting my head round the engine management slowly.

Glad I bought it!!!!!

Have a play round with quick missions, set up crazy dogfights like 2 109's vs 6 blenhiems!

Vulcanel 12-02-2011 09:18 AM

Performance has improved a lot since I re-installed from zero three weeks ago... Maybe because of the patches, maybe re-installation, maybe whatever, but now I am finally enjoying flying the sim, what was my intention since the beginning.

Nice job, and please keep pushing and don´t give up improving.

Rgds.

David198502 12-02-2011 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tavingon (Post 366470)
Have a play round with quick missions, set up crazy dogfights like 2 109's vs 6 blenhiems!

those are not crazy dogfights....i suggest go into fmb and set 1 109 as player plane and 70 spits or hurris against you...(or the opposite:1spit or hurri against 70 109s)that is fun and not really hard to survive with the current AI.

Gollum 12-02-2011 11:31 AM

From what i read you can get it for about 10 bucks..... why is there a question. Just buy it and try it. If you dont like it just wait and consider the 10 dollars spent an investment well spent instead of buying that 10 dollar life size cardboard cutout of arnold schwatzenegger to have when you watch scary movies...

icarus 12-02-2011 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robtek (Post 366444)
There is again this broken record mantra "flawed and unfinished" as if this were something special regarding to CoD.

Most, if not all, Software is "flawed and unfinished" when it is published.

Ok, in the case of CoD it was a bit more than usual, WAS!, now CoD is for the majority of players enjoyable, even in this "flawed and unfinished" state.

You, Sir, are calling a few cent per hour entertainment overpaid, that is out of relation for me.

Yes, a lot more than usual....this game was a disaster alpha on release and was sold to many at release price. Thats why it was given so many aweful scores in reviews on release.

Once it is patched and out of beta state (AI sucks, it has terrible AA and is having its graphics rewritten from scratch, just for starters) it might be worth 50 bucks.

At the moment, if someone finds a legit copy at a bargain so what. Whinners crying and insulting others values because he didn't shower devs with money is bizarre values. You sir, calling out those who take a bargain price, that is out of relation.

robtek 12-02-2011 12:09 PM

Icarus, if you had read my post#27 you wouldn't write such nonsense about calling out the lucky ones!

icarus 12-02-2011 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robtek (Post 366530)
Icarus, if you had read my post#27 you wouldn't write such nonsense about calling out the lucky ones!

The only nonsense written is you saying CoD is worth hundreds of dollars....a really laughable statement.

robtek 12-02-2011 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by icarus (Post 366550)
The only nonsense written is you saying CoD is worth hundreds of dollars....a really laughable statement.

http://media.screened.com/uploads/1/..._man_super.jpg

icarus 12-02-2011 02:52 PM

If you are thinking about buying this game read this first. Make an informed decision.

This is not just my opinion and is a fair review:
Gamespot 4/10

When a once-popular genre goes underrepresented for so long, it's tempting to give any new entry the benefit of the doubt. That's especially true when that new product comes from a developer known for its dedication to the subject matter. IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover is one such game, and Maddox Games is one such developer. What to make, then, of this unfinished fiasco, especially when its target audience has so few modern options? Like previous IL-2 installments, this World War II combat flight simulator will benefit from a passionate community and the included modification tools. But that's no excuse for the clearly broken state it was released in. The technical issues are a real shame, for underneath them is a solid and complex simulation that deserved a worthy package to showcase it. In time, Cliffs of Dover might soar. But for now, all but the most patient simmers should leave this damaged aircraft in the hangar for further maintenance.

drewpee 12-02-2011 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by icarus (Post 366578)
If you are thinking about buying this game read this first. Make an informed decision.

This is not just my opinion and is a fair review:
Gamespot 4/10

When a once-popular genre goes underrepresented for so long, it's tempting to give any new entry the benefit of the doubt. That's especially true when that new product comes from a developer known for its dedication to the subject matter. IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover is one such game, and Maddox Games is one such developer. What to make, then, of this unfinished fiasco, especially when its target audience has so few modern options? Like previous IL-2 installments, this World War II combat flight simulator will benefit from a passionate community and the included modification tools. But that's no excuse for the clearly broken state it was released in. The technical issues are a real shame, for underneath them is a solid and complex simulation that deserved a worthy package to showcase it. In time, Cliffs of Dover might soar. But for now, all but the most patient simmers should leave this damaged aircraft in the hangar for further maintenance.

A bit rough mate. That review was Posted Apr 16, 2011. Thats over 6 months ago. Alot has changed since then.

drewpee 12-02-2011 03:22 PM

And icarus I think he's made up his mind with out you.:grin:


Quote:

Originally Posted by uksub (Post 366464)
:-)Well, Ive downloaded it now and played it for a couple of hours and i'm impressed. my rig handles it fine, with little or no stuttering and a decent frame rate.

FM is good and I'm getting my head round the engine management slowly.

Glad I bought it!!!!!


KG26_Alpha 12-02-2011 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uksub (Post 366464)
:-)Well, Ive downloaded it now and played it for a couple of hours and i'm impressed. my rig handles it fine, with little or no stuttering and a decent frame rate.

FM is good and I'm getting my head round the engine management slowly.

Glad I bought it!!!!!

And on that note.................


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