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Development Status - November 14, 2011
Hi everyone,
Quick status update. We are aware of the issues many of you are having. We are monitoring the forums, and we are checking the crash dumps you are sending, for which we are especially grateful. The crashes are caused by an old graphics bug that’s been in the game all year. Since we are in the process of seriously overhauling graphics, we cannot release a quick fix. The bug simply doesn’t exist in the current version of the graphics at all. It got thrown out with a lot of other bad code, but the overall feature isn’t ready for the world quite yet. We’re also improving the sound quite a bit, doing exciting things with aircraft, and generally progressing along the same fronts I’ve listed in my older updates. These are all major features so they take time. We only have a tentative ETA at this point, but considering this forum’s special relationship with the word “tentative” I’m not going to say what it is. It’s not this Friday or the next – take that as you will. We’ll keep you updated as we get closer. |
Thx Luthier!! To hear that you are still working on the issues and that you are reading the forums is all most of us need to know!!!
Maybe a screenshot of the new graphics engine at one point whenever you have time :grin: Thx! |
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Finally an update! Thanks Luthier! :)
It all sounds very good, I can't wait to see what you have up your sleeves. Sounds like something really big. Keep up the good work! |
we're all waiting here, not much else to do, thanks for the update.
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The guy has said it was a flawed game but it is getting recoded. Now we can settle ourselves and check back when the work is done. Thanks for clearing this up for us, luthier....appreciate it! |
TY for the feedback. I am really excited about the upcoming patches/bug fixes.
Regards. |
Great to hear you are still heading in the right direction. Thanks Luthier. I have learned to be patient ;)
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Not much but better than nothing. Thanks Luthier.:grin:
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Despite all the ungratefullness that goes around you are still here?
I take my hat off to you ,sir! http://www.myemoticons.com/emoticonday/clap.gif |
finally we heard its a BAD CODE....now Luthier, fix the game...I can wait all year since Im playing ROF, RO2, ARMA2.....old il2.....
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Thanks for the update Luthier, keep up the good work, best sim in the world as I see it:cool:
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Lol, Ilya. Thanks for the update. And I'm more inclined to think that it's some of the forum members who are "special" rather than any particular relationship with the word tentative.
I'm really looking forward to see this sim really live up to the potential that most of us see. |
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Thank you Sir for THIS new News. And for that, that you and your Team still working for this good realy good sim
Greetings from Germany TOWARISCH |
Thanks for the comments .Its always encouraging to hear from you & that you are working on making things better.
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thx for keeping us informed Luthier....btw can anybody please tell me what ETA means?probably something obvious, but i just cannot see it.
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Estimated Time of Arrival, or '2 weeks'...
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thx cheesehawk!
Edit: and thx JG52Uther!...be sure |
Very good news! Looking forward to the overhaul! :)
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Hmmm looks like we better get working on our next multisquadron battle of Britain campaign!
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Good to hear :) Thanks Luthier! |
I don't know what to think, I'll ask Tree ... :D
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Thanks for the update!
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Thanks Luthier,keep at it mate.
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Any word on whether Battle of Moscow is in development or delayed?
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Thanks for being in touch... Glad to hear from You...
So in 2 weeks I expect lots of posts "where is Luthier, where is update, I stop to play this game if ... Grrrrr...grrrrrrr" that is going to be really funny :) |
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Appreciate the update... The CTD is definitely annoying, but knowing that the new engine will take care of this is nice to know.
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Yes thanks for the update. Since the game is broken for me anyways with those frequent crashes i just keep playing one of the many other games that just released and hope in 2 or 3 weeks we will get a really nice experience in this game as a christmas gift.
Only thing i dont like about it is that my skills will start rusting:P Winger |
If they are recoding so much of the game, then you can easily expect times about two or tree months at least. Probably more.
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okay, this will be the... 3rd or 4th 'graphics overhaul' and another round in sound tweaking, but...
What about Radio commands?/Messages? or what about getting the FM's on track? Seriously, this is so cruel... CoD looks great right now, but we just aren't progressing beyond a showcase flight simulation... The 'combat' part is lacking, and lacking severely. No (radio) interaction between planes/flights/ground control is just wrong and it should, by all means, be priority number one by now. I'm getting slightly psychotic about that... |
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Redroach, I bet the AI commands and such are less important at the moment than getting the BASE of the game working aka GFX engine along with FM/DM after that. When these things work as they should, everything else is just tuning and adding more a lot easier. Or this is how I see it..mileages may vary ;) |
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Good to hear that they have done some serious refactoring though! |
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Enough time for me to build my own trimmwheel compatible to my 2 throttle quadrants.
Attachment 7731 Hmm, 8 or 16 buttons?!:rolleyes: |
Thanks for the update Luthier.
I have to ask though, is the graphics overhaul an overhaul? Because the last time you uttered those words, the graphics were actually toned down (the beautiful cockpits, the amazing lighting [exlcuding the introduction of the brilliant blue-haze effect] etc) |
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That ain't no update.
It's just more non-definitive bs. It's as accountable...as a politician's promise...:rolleyes: |
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Good news, I'll wait until the friday after next friday and if its still not here I'll throw my dolls out of my pram!:grin: |
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With the 109MB of ccpcrash files I've sent to Luthier, I'll reserve judgment and keep a watching brief. If the Dev's nail the pesky Launcher exe bug, I for one will be a "happy bunny". I never grow tired of seeing more graphic attention to detail each time I fly, that is until L-e crashes me to desk top. More power to your elbow Luthier, do I still need to keep sending ccpcrash files?
Salute Vonte |
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it's due this thursday or the next?
hur hur hur cheers for the update luthier, keep on plugging away dude |
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to everyone that complained of broken promises and missed release dates on the last use of "tentative" - WELL DONE! :rolleyes: |
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:) be nice for Christmas
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I'm about to deploy on ops again shortly.. so I'm hoping when I come back in a month or two there will be a nice xmas pressie regarding this game.. Good stuff!
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Thanks for the update.. Everyone here just wanted to hear what was going on!.. We're patient, just good to hear things are still going!
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Thanks for the news ;-)
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With respect Luthier, still no word on FFSA, COOPs or the memory leak?
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Ok good to hear some news...but...I dont like the way the team is dealing with the community. Here is why
1. Im not even going deep into the current state of the game thing, which is progressing and yet has lots of issues, I understand about this being is a flight sim, the niche, the way this genre is supposed to work, but none of that takes away the fact that WE ALL PAID FOR THE GAME AND ITS BEEN SEVERAL MONTHS AND THE GAME DOES NOT WORK PROPERLY. This is not that much about saying thank you to luthier, but both thanking each other, the game would be nothing without us the customers (nothing without luthier and the team obviuosly), It is perfectly logical to demand for a 100% working game, we ALREADY paid. 2. This sim came out in a very unusual way, absolutly broken, nevermind why maybe will never know for sure, the combat flight comunity knows there is not a lot to choose from and we need to stick to what we got, there is simply no other sim that acomplishes what cliffs of dover is doing by now, and because of that WE SUPPORT THE GAME, which means we are all here playing or at least checking the forums, we are algo helping the sim by playing and paying for a unfinished game. ok that being said, i mean the fact that we already paid and are customers, and that we are here helping the game by playing and not leting it die, luthier and the team are wrong in the way of dealing with community: 1. long periods of 0 communication, no news, no updates, today there was a development status (nov 14) and the last we got was the officia patch (oct 17)...NO COMMUNICATION IN A MONTH!!!...if we are so few, i mean the flight players/costumers, they should be in contact with us very frecuently beacuse we are the only one able to bring the game to success, if you dont inform your customers everybody out there (potencial buyers) would only check the official reviews (ign, etc) which are clearly fair, gave the game a mediocre score giving the actual state of the game, if we the few players are not 100% happy AND WE DONT KNOW NOTHING ABOUT WHAT IS GOING ON...WE CANT SPREAD THE WORD OF THIS BEING A PROMISING SIM, the game would be doomed. 2. they are not solving the problems!!!.....this is what is happening: new betas or official patches solve some problems but YAIKs!! damages other things. sound coming better, now we got the crashes (PHANTOM BUG..what kind of /@%&$# is that!!!) I know people that is thinking of buying the game and pimping their rigs but already gave up beacuse there is nothing to check IN THE OFFICIAL FORUM. all I do is ask for frecuent updates and healthy developer-customer relations. |
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Well, the only thing I read in this post is a reassurance of what's already been said. The game has problems. I think anyone that's ever played it can attest to that. Obviously a game is created with some sort of programming / code, so problem code/bad code kinda has to = the problems. You would think that's kind of a no-brainer, but I guess not to some individuals.
But it's still the best online sim I've ever played. And what's possible with the game engine already in it's infancy blows every other sim besides 46 clean out of the water. Good times ahead ;) |
Thanks for the info, Luthier. Take as long as you need to get it sorted .
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Any news is good news (well almost...)
But this post was good news! :) ~S~ PS. sometimes I can not hide the feeling that some post before reading. Luthier clearly mentioned what the memory leak is about and that this has been fixed. So, there is little point in asking him the same question... |
Thanks for the Info!
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Gret news. Thanks Luthier. Because Luthier confirmed they are looking at the forums and crash dumps I am going to dedicate the next couple of weeks to posting my crash dumps in the crash dump thread along with some of the MAP bugs I have seen like floating grass etc.
Hopefully just before xmas they will post a patch to keep us all going and so they can have some well erned time off also. |
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To me Luthier is talking about the crashes caused by explosions or other graphic glitches , not lock ups caused by the memory leak. |
Thanks for the update, a Christmas present from Russia would be great!
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Hmm thats great gfx and sound fixes. When finaly we get AI fixed? Its totaly porked and useless. Wingmans dosent follow. Comms menu is bit joke. I dont play game cos of it.
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I guess that why he said thanks to the people who sent in their dump files! Cheers! |
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slave to the money. |
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What if you didnt have the resources or time or parts yet to do a whole engine rehaul? Then why just wait and not do anything else until you get those things fixed. Thats just a waste of time. |
little updates like these are much appreciated.
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Thanks for the update.
All I can say is, take your time, get it right, one more month doesn't really matter if the result is what you feel you can be happy with. I trust you guys (devs) are as passionate about this most ambitious sim as the community is. |
Not overly impressed with the update to be honest. Could you please comment on what specific things will be fixed in the next update even if they can't yet be released? Comms, AI, SLI/crossfire etc?
"...but considering this forum’s special relationship with the word “tentative” I’m not going to say what it is..." The patronising tone is not helpful, especially considering 1C's breathtaking extension of the 'release early and patch' model which was actually 'release early and complete'. You need a customer base to sell your expansion to in the coming months. Basic marketing strategy should tell you that repairing the relationship with the customer base is a top priority even at the cost of a slight delays. It really doesn't take that much time... |
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Glad to see they're working to improve the game. At least they found a bad code and surely other things. To those who are whinning around that the game is still not working like it should, name a recent bugless popular game that never required any patch or improvement in the last 2 years. It's easy to say that they are incompetent game makers when the only thing you can program is your microwave oven.
Act with courtesy. Otherwise, be polite. |
Just read this article with much interest from SIMHQ
http://www.simhq.com/_air14/air_509a.html Looks like COD isn't the only sim with CTD issues! I know language is a barrier but when we eventually get a community manager I hope we could see events like this where customers and developers get a chance to get together in the virtual skies and experience this game as it is with the hope of working together for a bright future! Cheers! Of course the developers probably have a bit more experience with the game and would wipe thier virtual behinds with us! |
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Finally this should put an end to all the arguments about one persons perception of this game over anothers. Its there in black and white from the lead developer himself. There were bugs and bad coding in the game. Bugs and bad coding that cannot be fixed but need to be thrown out and redone. fact.
The guy has said it was a flawed game but it is getting recoded. Now we can settle ourselves and check back when the work is done. Thanks for clearing this up for us, luthier....appreciate it! http://www.bingertoday.info/huang4.jpg http://www.bingertoday.info/huang3.jpg |
It's an update , but not really. It's not like anything was said specifically or anything coming up. Whatever happened to that feature that was supposed to 'make the competitors nervous'
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It's like 1C are doing US a favour. If none of the community bought your simulator on release, you certainly wouldn't be working on it now. Instead of slagging off the community, you could have expanded more on what you and your team are actually doing. Nah, why bother..? This next patch better be good.. |
Thanks Luthier.
We all know there are many problems to fix. We all know you are working at them. We all know it will take time. The status updates won't stop those "the game is Dead" idiots. It won't make the eternal misery revellers go away, the ones that ignore the good new you do give us and pitch up with more of the same boring old whinges which, while they may be valid, must take their place in the queue. And the Trolls will always be with us. But there are a lot of us that are enjoying CoD already and looking forward to the patches that will bring more on board. |
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As I see it, implementing a new graphics engine or fixing bugs therein is highly specific work for certain members of the team. Surely there must be some guys left who could work on the FM/DM or AI? Or are these guys busy working on the BoM game?
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I'm not going to do anything if the patch doesn't deliver. But what will your reaction be if this patch is another disappointment? All I meant by my post was at some point people's patience is going to run out. Not just with the developement of Cliffs of Dover, but also the strange relationship (if you can call it that) that 1C continues to have with it's community. The ROF team do a brilliant job of keeping their customers informed and involved, I just wish Luthier and co would do something similar. Sorry for not pouring my admiration and thanks 1C's way. I just think certain things could be done a little better. |
Yeah must say this update is not much in the way of info at all really? Just a “we are working on it speech.”
@Tree you asked for DirectX 11 support so maybe this graphic overhaul is it?;) In general I think Maddox Games have been guilty of trying to release a product they hoped would be capable of pleasing everyone. So instead of doing a few things well they tried to do everything well, they put an assortment of stuff together and at the last minute realized nothing was really finished. Luckily the publisher did not pull the plug on the product. That said I am pleased they have identified key problems and are working on it. I would have hoped they would have by now provided a software development kit (SKD) so that modders could add in the ships and plane variants missing. Honestly I have moved on from moaning about an incomplete product or whether we are glorified beta/alpha testers. The basic game has a lot going for it and once the mysteries of the MP and scripting are unlocked and a full SKD is released we will see this game soar. :grin: |
Who cares about relationship????
I don't want to marry the devs. ;D All i care for is a flawless sim as soon as possible, priority on flawless. This virtual hand-holding is awfully overrated! If you want to fly this wonderful sim, you wait for the patch, regardless of any communication, and if you don't want to fly this sim, what are you doing here? |
thanks Luthier.
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You see, directx11 might improve performance but it won't fix bugs and other limitations inherent to the game engine itself. From what we've heard they are almost replacing the whole thing, which is good BUT don't be surprised when dozens of new bugs will appear. On the note about people also asking for a 64-bit exe, this will probably improve performance but will it fix bugs? No it won't because again, it's inherent to the engine itself. I'm trying to see things from different perspectives, and the ignorants of this forum sometimes stuns me, some people barely know what they are talking about with regards to game technology and they couldn't probably even code a simple html page, yet they seem have to have vast knowledge of game programming/technology and also insight into the development team at MG. I'm not picking sides because frankly there are just as many fools on both sides of this mess of a spectrum that we have here, I just wish people could stop expressing themselves when they don't know what they are talking about, it bothers me.:rolleyes: P.S I'm sure this must bother real programmers on this forum more than me. |
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guess that there's no pleasing some people! Oh! And Luthier, Thanks for the update! Looking forward to any patches when they arrive. In the mean time I'm going to enjoy a bit of multiplayer action in COD. Cheers! |
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