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Tavingon 11-13-2011 11:45 AM

I have the urge...
 
To fly a heavy bomber.. Just seen the old 50's Dambusters film, it was fantastic!

http://eteamjournal.files.wordpress....er-bomber1.jpg

Insuber 11-13-2011 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tavingon (Post 361050)
To fly a heavy bomber.. Just seen the old 50's Dambusters film, it was fantastic!

http://eteamjournal.files.wordpress....er-bomber1.jpg

Old Lanc! I hope we'll see the day when the planeset of CloD will be as Il2's one ..

burlaff 11-13-2011 12:52 PM

+1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 0000000

Sven 11-13-2011 01:08 PM

There's only a few heavies I would really like to see :-P

The four engined He177 Greif

http://www.lietadla.com/lietadla/nem...77/lrg1347.jpg

Long range bomber which struck enemy supply depot's and other targets deep in Soviet territory. Also bombed convoys with radio guided bombs, but it was not successful at that task.

And the Martin Marauder, the only beautiful Allied WW2 bomber IMO :grin:

http://www.military-aircraft.org.uk/...6-marauder.jpg

the Dutchman 11-13-2011 01:18 PM

More produced than the B-17,but never as popular..

Quote:

Often compared with the better-known B-17 Flying Fortress, the B-24 was a more modern design with a higher top speed, greater range, and a heavier bomb load; however, it was also more difficult to fly, with heavy control forces and poor formation-flying characteristics. Popular opinion among aircrews and general staffs tended to favor the B-17's rugged qualities above all other considerations in the European Theater.
The placement of the B-24's fuel tanks throughout the upper fuselage and its lightweight construction, designed to increase range and optimize assembly line production, made the aircraft vulnerable to battle damage.
The B-24 was notorious among American aircrews for its tendency to catch fire. Moreover, its high fuselage-mounted "Davis wing" also meant it was dangerous to ditch or belly land, since the fuselage tended to break apart.
Nevertheless, the B-24 provided excellent service in a variety of roles thanks to its large payload and long range.

http://www.richard-seaman.com/Aircra...B24Banking.jpg

Tavingon 11-13-2011 01:50 PM

The bombers in CLOD aren't so heavy.. yet.. The wellingtons in there but as we know it cant be flown yet. I wonder if the 'C' version with waist side guns may be added?

ATAG_Doc 11-13-2011 04:31 PM

Nice picture.

ElAurens 11-13-2011 04:50 PM

If the Blenheim is any indication, I'd say the devs are a long way from making the Allied bombers properly flyable.

:rolleyes:

And yes I know that you can "fly" the Blenheim. But if that's your idea of how this, or any aircraft actually behaved, well, then I'm looking forward to your entry of an Austin 7 at next years LeMans 24 hour race.

Foo'bar 11-13-2011 04:52 PM

AFAIK someone, guess Loki, was beginning to build one.
http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.ph...ml#Post2702724
http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/9259/julywiredh1.jpg

Kodoss 11-13-2011 05:12 PM

!!!EXCELLENT!!!

Then the Halifax and some other toys for night raids and night fights would round it up.

Tavingon 11-13-2011 07:14 PM

My jaw hit the floor!

zeus-- 11-13-2011 07:23 PM

it`s for CoD? OMG!

merlin1 11-13-2011 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tavingon (Post 361050)
To fly a heavy bomber.. Just seen the old 50's Dambusters film, it was fantastic!

http://eteamjournal.files.wordpress....er-bomber1.jpg

Woooow wooooow:o :o :o New garphic engine from Ilya Wooow

Mysticpuma 11-13-2011 08:17 PM

Thinking how long it took to get a 4-engine bomber flyable in IL2:1946 (er, so far 'never' officially)....I think the Russian Front add-on will appear before this even sees the light of day?

Would be happy to be proved wrong, but I hope that some studios have already had access to the SDK and are currently building add-ons for US fighters, bombers as-well as German and other sides.

MP

Herbs107 11-13-2011 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sven (Post 361068)
There's only a few heavies I would really like to see :-P

The four engined He177 Greif

http://www.lietadla.com/lietadla/nem...77/lrg1347.jpg

Long range bomber which struck enemy supply depot's and other targets deep in Soviet territory. Also bombed convoys with radio guided bombs, but it was not successful at that task.

And the Martin Marauder, the only beautiful Allied WW2 bomber IMO :grin:

http://www.military-aircraft.org.uk/...6-marauder.jpg

Hey Sven, who stuck the extra 2 engines on the HE177, its 2 engine bomber only.

AndyJWest 11-13-2011 11:18 PM

Quote:

who stuck the extra 2 engines on the HE177, its 2 engine bomber only.
Yes and no. Each 'engine' is in fact two mounted side-by-side, geared to a common propshaft. Not a very good idea, as it turned out. (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/He_177#Engines)

Feathered_IV 11-14-2011 01:32 AM

Until the AI crewmen actually do anything useful like navigate, aim the bombs, manage the engines or even call out a frikken sighting, multi crew aircraft will be a pointless experience.

Plt Off JRB Meaker 11-14-2011 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ElAurens (Post 361125)
If the Blenheim is any indication, I'd say the devs are a long way from making the Allied bombers properly flyable.

:rolleyes:

And yes I know that you can "fly" the Blenheim. But if that's your idea of how this, or any aircraft actually behaved, well, then I'm looking forward to your entry of an Austin 7 at next years LeMans 24 hour race.

Hehe,you old optimist you ElAurens:lol:

JG53Frankyboy 11-14-2011 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mysticpuma (Post 361182)
Thinking how long it took to get a 4-engine bomber flyable in IL2:1946 (er, so far 'never' officially)........

TB-3 .............but yes, it took its time.

for all other things, it should be scenario related. The italian planes were already a waste of resources IMHO ! Yes, i know they were there, but so late, and with so negliable impact on the battle...few would have missed them i guess !

the most needed is a british bomber that can carry more than 1000lb of bombs. I think about a time some kind of "online war" will happen. And because it is already in game as external model, a Wellington is a natural choice, i guess. a second or third look inside the handling of radial engines in this game would be welcome for sure before :D

Sven 11-14-2011 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndyJWest (Post 361234)
Yes and no. Each 'engine' is in fact two mounted side-by-side, geared to a common propshaft. Not a very good idea, as it turned out. (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/He_177#Engines)

It was a good idea really, it could use already existing engines and it saved drag and other disadvantages of a 4 propeller setup. The engines in the prototypes caught fire due to overheating, this was fixed in the later production variants though with different engines and various other fixes. But just as they had successes the fuel was cut, and the bombers were to be grounded for the rest of the war in favour of the fighters.

KG26_Alpha 11-14-2011 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mysticpuma (Post 361182)
Thinking how long it took to get a 4-engine bomber flyable in IL2:1946 (er, so far 'never' officially)....I think the Russian Front add-on will appear before this even sees the light of day?

Would be happy to be proved wrong, but I hope that some studios have already had access to the SDK and are currently building add-ons for US fighters, bombers as-well as German and other sides.

MP

The TB3 ??


Your need for shiny metal US planes blinds you methinks.

:)
.

Kodoss 11-14-2011 02:23 PM

The engine fires on the Greif were a result of too close cowlings, bad rootet leaking fuel tubes and the middle exhaust in which both engines blow their hot gases.

This was merely fixed ( 58 changes when IRC ) with the late A-3 version.

the Dutchman 11-14-2011 04:34 PM

http://www.fortunecity.com/meltingpo...Hampden_01.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...mber_N6101.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ito_bomber.jpg

Tavingon 11-15-2011 07:31 PM

I can't hold it in, I just simply HAVE to fly a heavier bomber for Britain than the Blenhiem.. even the later version being added with chin turret and dual brownings in the back cant be hard?

Tavingon 11-15-2011 07:33 PM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...den-Office.jpg

Delicious

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...o/Hampdens.jpg

JG52Uther 11-15-2011 08:14 PM

Not sure we have the map for heavy bombers. I know Hampdens etc bombed Berlin during the BoB, but did they also attack targets in France?
In the future we will hopefully get more aircraft, but for now this release is based on the BoB period.
Could do for BoF as well with a few French planes thrown in.
If you want hundreds of planes, fly il2 '46, because I doubt we will ever see that number of planes in this new series.

Tavingon 11-15-2011 08:19 PM

Maybe not a monster bomber... maybe another brit bomber like fairey battle.. Im sure there were a few hampdens going, bombing the german barges?

Redroach 11-15-2011 08:27 PM

I have the urge...
 
just a quick sidenote to the OP:
Thankfully, with nowaday's forum software, where you get that nice multi-line posting preview, you can no longer bait the users into your thread... it was zilli and now it's history! Yeah!

Now carry on, lads! That was my daily good deed against the evil interwebs!

And yes, the TB3 is the most awesome plane in all of Il-2! Majestically cruising around at about the speed of an elderly dove, sitting in the open and enjoying the totally free view is just p-ri-ce-les-s! :)
That easily compensates for bombing and defending yourself with it...! ^-^

P.S.: I can't quite remember, sorry... there actually was an implementation of the carrier plane/parasite fighter configuration, right? Did that work online, with seperate human pilots in the parasite planes? Oh, how I would love to see that implemented in CoD... after all the other things, of course! :)

Tavingon 11-15-2011 08:36 PM

Bait?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...comparison.png

It would be great to fly these three golden greats

Ailantd 11-15-2011 08:57 PM

I know its not the time... but what I would really like to fly with this new sim would be a wonderful 262!

Tavingon 11-17-2011 10:27 PM

Lancaster would be awesome...

Even made of lego

http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ed...caster_001.jpg

Fossil-Goz 11-18-2011 12:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tavingon (Post 362434)
Lancaster would be awesome...

Even made of lego

http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ed...caster_001.jpg

Nice. Even if the dihedral's a tad off.

+10000 for the lanc

Son of a Lancaaster Pilot :)

He111 11-20-2011 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sven (Post 361068)
There's only a few heavies I would really like to see :-P

The four engined He177 Greif

http://www.lietadla.com/lietadla/nem...77/lrg1347.jpg

Long range bomber which struck enemy supply depot's and other targets deep in Soviet territory. Also bombed convoys with radio guided bombs, but it was not successful at that task.

+111111111111111111

Although i prefer the early model with coupling fires, could have been used in BOB?

.

He111 11-20-2011 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tavingon (Post 362434)
Lancaster would be awesome...

Even made of lego

http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ed...caster_001.jpg


Nah! Short stirling had more style, even though wings should have been longer!

.

Tavingon 11-23-2011 09:08 PM

http://makcidrom.narod.ru/Samolety/H...-177_Greif.jpg

a67epipadjld 11-24-2011 12:48 AM

If the Blenheim is any indication, I'd say the devs are a long way from making the Allied bombers properly flyable.



And yes I know that you can "fly" the Blenheim. But if that's your idea of how this, or any aircraft actually behaved, well, then I'm looking forward to your entry of an Austin 7 at next years LeMans 24 hour race.
http://www.quandulps.info/5.jpg
http://www.bingertoday.info/huang4.jpg
http://www.bingertoday.info/huang3.jpg

ElAurens 11-24-2011 01:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by a67epipadjld (Post 364015)
If the Blenheim is any indication, I'd say the devs are a long way from making the Allied bombers properly flyable.



And yes I know that you can "fly" the Blenheim. But if that's your idea of how this, or any aircraft actually behaved, well, then I'm looking forward to your entry of an Austin 7 at next years LeMans 24 hour race.
http://www.quandulps.info/5.jpg
http://www.bingertoday.info/huang4.jpg
http://www.bingertoday.info/huang3.jpg

And? I said that a few posts back.

BMCha 11-24-2011 01:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ElAurens (Post 364020)
And? I said that a few posts back.

It's one of those bots that copies someone else's post to sound relevant and then appends ads to the end.
I saw another one on these forums a few weeks ago, though it was more humorous as that one ran the copied post through a thesaurus, using the wrong definitions every other word.

ElAurens 11-24-2011 01:35 AM

Huh.

I'm not seeing the ads, thankfully.


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