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SUP_Trok 11-08-2011 11:00 PM

Cliffs of dover beta game
 
this game is still a beta beta game.

I done an upgrade to my pc:

MB Asus Motherboard P8P67 LE Rev. B3 Socket LGA 1155 chipset Intel P67 ATX - HD 500GB - CPU Processore Core i7-2600K (Sandy Bridge) Quad-Core 3,40 Ghz con moltiplicatore sbloccato GPU integrata HD 3000 socket LGA 1155 - RAM Memoria Dimm HyperX Genesis 8Gb (2x4Gb) ddr3 1600MHz Non-ECC CL9 - GPU Ati Radeon HD5850 1GB

.....and I still can't play to my game! INCREDIBLE! Shuttering shuttering and vey low framerate! Now you can't say that the problem is my pc!!

I need and answer to the staff.
Why with an I7 Processor.. I can't play to COD?
Do you need a video?
thanks!

ReconNZ 11-08-2011 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SUP_Trok (Post 359772)
this game is still a beta beta game.

I done an upgrade to my pc:

MB Asus Motherboard P8P67 LE Rev. B3 Socket LGA 1155 chipset Intel P67 ATX - HD 500GB - CPU Processore Core i7-2600K (Sandy Bridge) Quad-Core 3,40 Ghz con moltiplicatore sbloccato GPU integrata HD 3000 socket LGA 1155 - RAM Memoria Dimm HyperX Genesis 8Gb (2x4Gb) ddr3 1600MHz Non-ECC CL9 - GPU Ati Radeon HD5850 1GB

.....and I still can't play to my game! INCREDIBLE! Shuttering shuttering and vey low framerate! Now you can't say that the problem is my pc!!

I need and answer to the staff.
Why with an I7 Processor.. I can't play to COD?
Do you need a video?
thanks!

Hey mate, can't be sure what is causing your hold-ups without much more info, i suggest running some diagnostics of your system like 3d mark, stress tests on your cpu - checking drivers for conflicts etc.

It definatley isnt the game as many many people with much lower systems than you (me included) can run the game smooth as silk on max settings.

So before posting that the game is causing dramas, you need to check out your pc for problems. You should be able to run this fine, so problem points to your system, not the software.

EDIT - actually your graphics card would be the bottleneck on your system - it is quite old now. Cliffs is quite dependent on the GPU, but i would expect that you would be able to run it on low settings. I suggest turning down all your settings in game and seeing if that helps, if not, check your graphics card as I suspect it may not be working 100% correctly.

Cheers,

Recon.

ElAurens 11-08-2011 11:44 PM

Nvidia, FTW.

BP_Tailspin 11-08-2011 11:55 PM

Nvidia rules ... http://www.cubpilot.com/Tspin/Woot.gif

Maybe that's not a fair statement as I have never owned a ATI video card, but I do do a lot of reading/research and have always chosen Nvidia, I guess that makes me a Nvidia fanboy.

Helrza 11-09-2011 12:09 AM

what settings are you using trok? Might b a couple of things like clouds, ssao and land shading that you have on. If so turn them off and down and see how it goes then. As previously stated, ur card could be the bottleneck

SIDWULF 11-09-2011 12:09 AM

I unfortuantely have stuck with ATI as they always seem to have a card out that hits the sweet spot when it comes time to upgrade. The HD 6950 2GB was really the best card in it's price range. Always wanted a nvidia card so i could have a nvidia / intel system.

There is a point of dimishing returns in terms of preformace per dollar and longevity with video cards. I have to find the balence because i know how fast hardware refreshes.

Warhound 11-09-2011 01:33 AM

Did you upgrade your OS too? If you're still running XP or even Vista they are a likely cause for at least 50% of your problems with CLOD.

Know it's too late now, but you'd also have been better off not buying a 2600k (try disabling HT btw ,some reported it to ruduce stuttering) and going for a 2500k or 2400 and spending the difference on a better card.
560ti or 6950 ,even a 5870, would have been a better pick. Preferrably with 2gb+ ram..your 1gb will be filled up in no time with everything on high,SSAO on etc and a decent resolution.

louisv 11-09-2011 01:51 AM

Oh and clear the cache !

You never know, it could be that simple.

CWMV 11-09-2011 02:09 AM

its got to be either your card or your processor speed.
Ive got a very similar setup: P8P67/i7 2600K @ 4.4ghz/GTX 580SC/8 gigs ram.
For me, the game is fluid, beautiful, and nothing short of stunning. Average frame rates flying online are 55+ with vsync on.

bw_wolverine 11-09-2011 02:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Warhound (Post 359800)
Did you upgrade your OS too? If you're still running XP or even Vista they are a likely cause for at least 50% of your problems with CLOD.

This +1

BigC208 11-09-2011 04:04 AM

Get Windows 7 64 bit a gtx570 or Radeon 6970 and you should be ready to go.

SIDWULF 11-09-2011 05:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CWMV (Post 359806)
its got to be either your card or your processor speed.
Ive got a very similar setup: P8P67/i7 2600K @ 4.4ghz/GTX 580SC/8 gigs ram.
For me, the game is fluid, beautiful, and nothing short of stunning. Average frame rates flying online are 55+ with vsync on.

Vsync will make your mouse inputs and possibly all inputs delayed, controls might feel mushy.

Try turning it off you will get better preformance plus a more responsive mouse.

CWMV 11-09-2011 05:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SIDWULF (Post 359819)
Vsync will make your mouse inputs and possibly all inputs delayed, controls might feel mushy.

Try turning it off you will get better preformance plus a more responsive mouse.

Certainly not so in my case. If the game was any more fluid or crisp it would have to act before I put input into it.
Personally I will not play without vsync activated. And it doesn't seem to have any ill effect on gameplay.

mcdaniels 11-09-2011 06:33 AM

+1 for the vidcard and +1 for the os. Btw. I would like to ask the TO which resolution he is running the sim?

I usually played CloD with 1920x1080 with about medium details and encountered stuttering sometimes. Yesterday I switched the resolution to a lower setting, which made my spit looking like a flounder *lol*, but game was very fluid.

Another question concerning the graphics card: I just bought the AMD Saphire radeon HD 6850 1GB. Would it have been better to buy one with more RAM? I think more ram would be nice if you use anti aliasing.

Greetings!

pupaxx 11-09-2011 07:12 AM

Very enjoyable even with my old rig. For me a great improvement was the OS upgrade at 64bit.
Ciao

150GCT_Veltro 11-09-2011 08:03 AM

Beta? This is still an Alpha.

We hope for a CoD Beta in the next months.

Feathered_IV 11-09-2011 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pupaxx (Post 359836)
Very enjoyable even with my old rig. For me a great improvement was the OS upgrade at 64bit.
Ciao

Excuse the dumb question, but I thought the Q6600 was a 775 socket with a pcie1 motherboard (I've got one too). Can you really squeeze a 570 card in there?

Insuber 11-09-2011 08:52 AM

Trox, have a look at the optimization thread by Adonis, it helped a lot of people.

I flew an hour yesterday on ATAG. I had 46 fps average and 10 fps min with max settings / original textures at 1920 x 1200. Slight stutter only when I zoomed a Blenheim - sorry Krupi again for overshooting you ... :-) - and clipped her wing. Afterwards I sighted an Hurricane giving a hard time to a Bf at deck, zoomed behind, fired from 100 to 50 m and saw her explode with cannon fire (100% M-Geschoss :D).

Then came back and landed before the usual CTD. A wonderful sim time ...

I'm so sorry that the coding issues prevent a lot of people enjoying such a beautiful sim.

Cheers,
Ins

robtek 11-09-2011 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 150GCT_Veltro (Post 359846)
Beta? This is still an Alpha.

We hope for a CoD Beta in the next months.

Whatever.

6S.Tamat 11-09-2011 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 150GCT_Veltro (Post 359846)
Beta? This is still an Alpha.

We hope for a CoD Beta in the next months.

Would be a good Christmas present for everyone.

pupaxx 11-09-2011 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Feathered_IV (Post 359847)
Excuse the dumb question, but I thought the Q6600 was a 775 socket with a pcie1 motherboard (I've got one too). Can you really squeeze a 570 card in there?

You are right, the 570 is a great piece of bulky thing. It strictly fit in my case (a 2004 dated thermaltake, I don't remember the model but tower size). The most uneasy thing is operate on ram module, few millimeters adiacent to GPU. Consider the fact I installed a Noctua NH U9b cooler too, the case is litterally 'full as an egg'. BTW everything run properly.
Cheers

KeBrAnTo 11-09-2011 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SUP_Trok (Post 359772)
this game is still a beta beta game.

I done an upgrade to my pc:

MB Asus Motherboard P8P67 LE Rev. B3 Socket LGA 1155 chipset Intel P67 ATX - HD 500GB - CPU Processore Core i7-2600K (Sandy Bridge) Quad-Core 3,40 Ghz con moltiplicatore sbloccato GPU integrata HD 3000 socket LGA 1155 - RAM Memoria Dimm HyperX Genesis 8Gb (2x4Gb) ddr3 1600MHz Non-ECC CL9 - GPU Ati Radeon HD5850 1GB

.....and I still can't play to my game! INCREDIBLE! Shuttering shuttering and vey low framerate! Now you can't say that the problem is my pc!!

I need and answer to the staff.
Why with an I7 Processor.. I can't play to COD?
Do you need a video?
thanks!

Certainly the game needs things fixed, I won't say the opposite, but ...
take a moment to take a look to my rig.

I got my SLI finally working and I can play at 50 fps average, max 75 (limited due to vSync) using medium graphic settings ingame (low buildings and low forest, high model details and high effects) and having the computer properly set up.

The main pain for me are the network disconnections when playing online.

As someone told you before, I would check all the setup parameters of all your devices in the PC and make sure they're right. Also you should make some benchmarking on your PC using the proper tools, "plug and play" is a nice feature, but everything needs some tunning first in order to make things working as they are expected.

I would consider adding a second GPU in order to enable Crossfire first, I really noticed the difference once my SLI started running properly, and then overclocking, using a good cooling system of course, once you make sure your system is giving a 100% of its actual power.

It's hard to believe for me you cannot even play the game taking a look to your hardware, maybe you should consider lower down graphic settings and not to try to set everything on high just because you think your PC is worth it, at least until the sim is optimized properly.

Cheers.

David198502 11-09-2011 11:09 AM

im no expert when its about computer hardware, and your rig is definitely superior to mine....
however, you could try to delete the ubilogo, which helped many people here to increase performance, myself included!i have a massive performance gain due to it.

SUP_Trok 11-09-2011 05:47 PM

Sorry for incomplete info. Now I have new hardisk, Windows 7 ultimate, all drivers and I run the simulator with default graphic options at 1440*900. I have no problem with X-plane at max, DSC A-10 at max option, FSX at hight option. So I think that the problem is the simulator.


Wich are the most important optimization to do?
Now I am reading the optimization post as you told me... I hope to solve the problem

SUP_Trok 11-09-2011 06:38 PM

Ok, now after optimization I got less shuttering and good fps 20-25. I must use the simulator at medium option.... not as I expected with this hardware :-(

badfinger 11-09-2011 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David198502 (Post 359891)
im no expert when its about computer hardware, and your rig is definitely superior to mine....
however, you could try to delete the ubilogo, which helped many people here to increase performance, myself included!i have a massive performance gain due to it.

How do you delete the ubilogo? I thought sometime ago I read in another thread that it couldn't be deleted?

binky9

Chivas 11-09-2011 06:50 PM

Did you install Windows 7 64 bit or 32 bit. I would recommend 64 bit.

Your CPU and Memory are very good, but your ATI 5850 is definitely the weak link in your system. I would recommend the best Nvidia card you can afford as people seem to be having less problems with them. Also the developers has had contact with Nvidia regarding the sim while ATI has been disinterested. Atleast that was the case a year ago.

The sim has run with very little problems since release on my system with everything set to HIGH @1920x1080. I understand the problems people are having flying off-line but my on-line experiences with COD has been the most immersive ever in any combat flight sim.

Insuber 11-09-2011 09:00 PM

Trox, the 5850 with 1gb is not at the level of the rest of your H/W. For this game you need as much vid RAM as you can afford, with 1.5gb as minimum -2gb as the right spot. I would suggest to sell it and buy an nvidia 560 Ti 2gb, or a 570 2gb, the first sells at around 200 €.

Cheers!


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