The Crystal Ball
 

Moderation edit

Hi.

Welcome to the Crystal Ball Thread

In an attempt to tidy up and collate your posts regarding "when the next patch/update/new release due" and "general moaning and complaints" along with
other wonderful requests and ideas, I will move them into here.

It would be nice if you could make your postings in here so they are easier to find and read, and save me having to drag them over.

Have fun !!


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Luthier started to communicate regularly. So much negativity. Come on devs - GIVE? US AN UPDATE!! :confused:

What on earth is this crap!

Luthier came with a new patch on the 24th of June, this is not even 7 days ago and you complain about lack of communication?????

What kind of childish behaviour is this?
Do you want somebody to hold your hand every second day?

Show some more maturity please, this is not serious what you are complaining about.

Besides, Luthier's job is #1 to fix the simulation, #2 to communicate regularly (at least until (if) he nominates somebody dedicated for this communication task).

So sit tight where you are, learn to use what you have, learn from the others who walked the way before you and sacrifice some of their time to post here in order for others to have an easier way forward and, enjoy the game!

And this is the nicest way I can communicate to you because I know that Alpha is somewhere near with his new bar of soap waiting to have a pass on my tongue... ;)

~S~

agreed
give them some room
there will be another patch soon:grin:

Nice idea in theory, but personally im struggling to learn about what i got without having any sound, i have tried flying about with the theme music to 'The Battle Of Britian' blasting out in the background but I fear I will wear the record out before the sound fix is here in several(ish) months time. And its not too good for my relationship, my girlfriend is German and they dont have the same nostalgic feeling towards this part of history as we Brits do. Please help!

First bit of advice, 'don't mention the war' :mrgreen:

While the patch has fixed some things (no doubt about that), the radio comm "fix" was the last straw for me. How on earth could a thinking being believe that it can substitute the old, absolutely un-implemented radio command lists for 2(!) 'patched' commands, both of which actually do almost nothing, intrinsically, and get away with it? In addition, it's still buggy and no one even seems to bother to shuffle some tables around to bring some order into the menu. I consider this a personal insult to my intelligence - I hate to say those words, which are well worn out, but this is a genuine 'slap in the face', if there ever was one.
Hell, it was enthusiastically announced that "most, if not all AI commands" will work as of the recent patch. Slap. Ouch. And while we're still sitting around luthier in a semi-circle and listen to his wonderous promises, full of respect and admiration, I still lose half the squadron when I'm the leader and I'm attempting to land (due to AI reacting to more pronounced movement, flying into the ground etc.)
But thank god we have a new online lobby to enjoy the MP sound bug more. Yay!

The game is dead. They may be writing things, they may even try hard to 'fix' things for some time to come, but... yeah, you've witnessed it all. It's over. And I despise Team Maddox for throwing such great potential, which I looked forward to for some time, straight into the trashcan (can't even imagine the reason for their modus operandi except inability...). No Battle of Moscow Add-on for me.

Quit your whining - you have a new battleship! :cool:
I'm done with this thing for a while.... :evil:

You're perfectly entitled to your own opinion. Just don't expect everyone else to share it, especially it the game works for what they want to do.

Also, honest question and i'm not being a smartypants, what are you doing here (unless you don't like being slapped in the face)? Find something else to do if it stresses you so much and no, we don't need you to tell us about it afterwards in an effort to "rub it in" ;)

What i'm trying to say is, people have a different taste and different expectations, so the amount of compromise they are willing to display also varies. I certainly got exactly what i expected and since it runs ok for me since a couple of patches ago i have no reason to complain much, i'll wait it out.

Why not ?
BTW: which war do you mean ? The war that end all wars or the hundreds after ? :)

What an absolute load of crap,you Despise team Maddox? really,despise?? sheesh get over it,go outside or get a hobby out doors perhaps,I don't know but save your disgust for those who truly deserve it.

It´s from Fawlty towers, a British sitcom from 1975. Highly recommend to see it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IngEM...eature=related

Or if you dont have time for the whole thing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VgUy...eature=related

ok, I'll retract that and substitute with "disapprove of". Being no native english speaker, my dictionary says something along the line of "to think little of". But I realize it may have other, stronger meanings.

@Blackdog: I'm not completely sure. Maybe I'm whining after a great, missed opportunity. As I said, the potential of CoD is just awesome and that's what still bothers me in a way.

Another one that has missed Fawlty Towers...

EDIT: I noticed I'm no 2 with the Cleese ref...

Afaik Luthier said he'd stick to friday updates (patch or no patch). I can't figure out a legit argument for whining about updates until tomorrow adound 5pm local. Enjoy what I have, will enjoy it more in the future :)

Well, i can certainly understand that, although your messages usually give a different kind of impression. Maybe it's a language barrier thing and you just come off the wrong way, i don't know, but it's certainly possible (i'm not a native speaker either).

Anyway, no hard feelings. If i were in your shoes i'd just forget about it and check up on it later on. There's enough people here collecting bug reports and helping get a "list of what needs to be included" for the developer team and many can make their case in a calm manner (so we avoid flames and stick to the subject), so you don't need to worry that if you take a break nobody will annoy them to fix the sim :-P

I mean, i'm one of the most positively minded people around here and i've still come up with a half a dozen page list of immediate bug fixes and future feature ideas. I just have a little more luck than others getting my point across, thanks to using softer words. It's not only the message that counts, it's the delivery as well ;)

I dunno. Yeah, there are lots of bugs, some are almost game killers. The FMs are still porked, the coms are a joke, the campaign is non existant, all what we have is the core game. That, however, is so great its almost painful not not use it at times.

Anyways, Maddox games is woking on it, and that is what it comes down to. They may have different priorities then what I wish them to do first, they may not be as "in" the community as I personally wished for, either, but they are "working".

Compare that to some other sims like Silent Hunter V, where after Patch 1.3 nothing came in anymore, and that despite an even greater chaos.

I give up on this Sim only once the Devs give up.

What intelligence?! You kidding? You are stupid enough to go bragging about this game even if you don`t play it. Yeah, a slap in the face with a friggin video game. Where`s that lawsuit you keep talking about, genius?

That is your take on the facts. I keep enjoying the game in ~3 hour sessions in sp regardless. Doesn`t bother me because I ACTUALLY HAVE OTHER, MORE SERIOUS PROBLEMS TO THINK ABOUT. You`re whining as if it was the end of the world but NEWS FLASH it isn`t! If you can`t find anything enjoyable about this game, whining won`t help you (which you WOULD have figured out if you were intelligent).

Ok. It is dead. Now when you put it that way, it is all over for you. Time to find another video game to have a reason to sit in front of your pc all day. Don`t let the door hit you on the way out.

One whiner down, handfull to go.

Calm down carguy, I feel your anguish and I know how frustrating it is to try to talk common sense to people that don't or unwilling to have any.

They even have started to wind up blackdog and GRAthos with there nonsense and myself more than once I thinks it's about time we all learnt how to use the great ignore feature of this forum.

We KNOW that this game will be a classic just remember that, in the future you can decide to either rub it in these fools faces or take the high road and forgive them for there dazzling idiocy.

Nearly all these threads end up like a dog chasing it's own tail. Tiresome.

i like it

By visiting often servers in cod 1 think I can say learn to appreciate the game
by learning to master one of the models included and the game will mature more and more every day by the devs.

Or BE A NOOB AND WINE LIKE ONE !!

I've shelved the game for the time being.

Arma2 and DCS: A10 are such strong competition I just don't want to spend more time with CloD, atm.

Steam shows 47 hours game time, that's not too shabby, so I'll not say I didn't get my 34 EURs worth out of it, even if it will never get fixed (what I don't believe).

Thanks alot Tiger .
You saved my day.
That´s outstanding. John Cleese is one of the best.
He looks so seriously, but he is so extremly funny.
Maybe thats the reason for his great success.

And that Major and the foreign servant in this clip :D , Falling almost from my chair . :D

What a mess...
 

After patching and playing and doing some mission designing and really trying to force myself to overlook the cattelog of bugs and missing and broken features, i have to say im pretty darn frustrated.
I finally got it to run half decently by turning off the trees so it wouldnt lock up every 20 minutes and talked a friend into also buying it.
We setup a multiplayer game and the planes were lime green.

Is this turkey ever going to get fixed?

So sad they soiled IL2's good name. Reminds me of Flashpoint 2. Use a fantastic title to slog a mediocre substandard piece of unfinnished garbage on once loyal customers.

Just had to say it.

Has anybody got the texture problem in multiplayer and is there a fix?

Do you really believe that such a rant will result in useful answers?

At least you could post your system specs, if you want help and are not posting just to vent.

From your Oct 21 post below it looks like there are four things working against you:

1) dual core CPU
2) 3 gigs ram
3) Win XP
4) ATI 4600 card

Not your fault, I'm sure most, if not all, current games run fine on your system. CoD's code has not been optimised (yet), so it is very demanding on CPU, GPU, and memory for both to run well. Tweaking helps, as you found by turning off trees. But I've found in running Task Manager and EVGA Precision on a 2nd monitor while playing Cliffs of Dover that this sim is a real resource hog in all areas.

Others here with systems similar to yours will hopefully jump in to to make suggestions on how to further tweak your PC and or game settings so you get a decent looking display that runs stably for you.



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Crashes
Well, I bought another gig of ram, xp only sees three Gs, and i played for an hour today before it crashed.
I have to say i really like this sim. I hope they get this launcher.exe crash fixed. The latest patch has made things worse.
I am thinking of going to windows 7, and adding more ram, but from what im reading here, it seems others are having the same problem with W7 and lots more ram than i have.
Any ideas out there?



3 gig dual core with 3 gigs ram and ati 4600 1 gig vcard.

I like your investigative work there snapper. Now we know op is insane for thinking this sim would work on his ancient rig. Yeah, the fix is get a new rig.

Look, Win7 64 bit OEM version is going to help a lot.
Microsoft dropped support for xp a while ago, I can only recommend going to win7. XP used to be the staple for reliability and stability, but it has seen it's better days by now for sure.
I am absolutely serious, by yourself a new HDD and install win7. I know it is a pain having to reinstall everything you have so far on your HDD, but I am certain in the end you will be happy you did it.

probably one of these guys like my friend; why buy a new, until it dies.

He refuses to buy a newer machine, cause there is nothing wrong with it. and it should run every software under the sun, because it's a computer.

and he paid $399. dollars for it and it should work like xbox. lol

yep total user error on this one


its a given that you need a more than just an awesome system to even look at this game, like flight sims and joysticks go together like babies and pacifiers . . .


also don't just upgrade your system, get a new one loaded up bells and whistles with lots of meat and bones . . . and with Win 7 . . . don't fall for the sales ninja, "I'll throw in vista and office 2010 for 50 bucks works just like win 7 . . ."

Windows XP is a 10 year old operating system.

That's like using Windows 95 in 2005. :eek:

So now the problem is Windows XP and not the game at all???

I like how you guys move the problems to something else...

So what, you think a new game should be designed for an obsolete, dare I say dinosaur of an OS?
Really, what's more laughable than that?
Next try running you Chevy cavalier at the indy 500...

Try playing Battlefield 3 on that rig and see what happens, or Metro 2033, or Crysis, or Microsoft flight, or ......?


Not everything is CloD`s fault.

Why do people expect computers / hardware +5 years old to run things properly with todays games. If the latest games could be run back then i'm sure they would have.

dont go down that route since i can play those games fine and clod wont get a decent performance by all means

so i guess cuz xp is a dinosaur OS and win Vista is newer OS it should automatically be better and all users should have migrated towards Vista cuz Xp is a dinosaur....sorry just cuz XP is a dinosaur dosent mean it is no good....the only thing XP might not do as well is handle new technology...up untill recently most games wouldnt even use more than 2 cores properly...although i agree that the user was a bit foolhardy thinking it would run on his system...

When I run the game in DirectX 9 I get half the frame rate and nasty artifacts... They really should drop the Dx9 support which seems to be the problem to get running well for them. Others like DCS A-10 that run on Dx9 does it great but in this case I feel that they are wasting their resources on that... It may be that there are more people in Russia still on XP so they would loose to much potential customers there?

Anyway, if XP would have gotten Dx10 and 11 I'm pretty sure it would have outperformed Windows 7 with a percent or two in titles that are not heavily multithreaded (which few are). Less HAL and other stability improving stuff is always good for raw performance...

you don't have any knowledge how an OS works. :rolleyes:

ah... I see, you already have MS flight? :rolleyes:

please... do me a favor... stop defending CoD

I've not been reading too much here for a while, waiting for the game to be in a better state, and just a bit surprised to read this:Is that true? I thought they'd been trying to optimise it since the epilepsy debacle, have they said that there's a lot more optimising to do?

Must admit I am slightly bemused by the epilepsy thing. A few months ago they were saying anti-epilepsy measures were an absolute must for legal reasons despite massive performance hit. Then it was made optional with the ability to disable it - which of course everyone did. And now it has to be disabled because of the psychodelic colour effects.

I didn't say that. Please don't put words in my mouth that I did not say.

Snapper, I quoted captain not you :grin:

No the problem is everything op has on his desk including xp.

Yep. According to Ilya's (Luthier's) last post to this forum the recoding should result in 50% increase in performance or better.

Rgr, thx.

That's been my finding as well with my system. I fly the ATAG server and find I usually can fly/respawn/fly for an hour or two uninterrupted. Last night I got a CTD (launcher.exe error) after about one hour of play. The night before no crashes after approx 1.5 hrs of play before I called it quits for the night. Per your note above, it wouldn't surprise me that a 32-bit low-gig system only manages 20 minutes or so before The Big Crunch. (and it only seems to happen when you've finally saddled up behind someone and are about to mete out swift justice!)

spies whine thread

checks join date

reads whine thread

shakes head

apparently the graphics engine is being worked on for the next patch, a forecast of 50% increase in fps


they should say what settings you'll be able to use with the minmum specs really. with a screenshot of the settings and what the game will look like.

ftr my rig is far from stellar, but the game became playable when i went from xp with 4gb to win7 and 6gb, and that was back in may.

sounds like my love life.....

hhmmmm... we lost about 10% or 15% in performance with the latest patches, so maybe we will gain a 35% or 40%?? :grin:
seriously... the game before the patch was almost playable with not so many stutters and fps drops, really, but with the latest patch we got a great freaking awesome sound, and fps drop when dogfighting (well, for me is this). It will be amazing if we can have a smooth game when we fight

hahahahahaaa!!!

a pretty but unplayable game is worthless though. stable and a bit plain, with scaleable features for the more fortunate amongst us, is far more desireable on the whole

@OP,

What folks are saying is this:
You must fully optimize your hardware and OS,
to play this un-optimized sim, at your own additional
expense on lower settings, in order to be a member of
their club.

Look at my system spec's below....really, all I'm supposed
to do is spend 12x the price of this game, for the recommended
GTX 580, so I can play it with stutters....Yeah, right.

If, your only reason for an upgrade is this game?
Save your money, until it is optimized. I am.

Megahurt, If feel your pain. I had a 5 year old system looking much like yours. Could not play for more than 5 minutes before getting ctd's. Few weeks ago I pulled the triggrer on a I2500K and GTX570 upgrade for around $1000. No more CTD's and have everything maxed out. Game is dropdead gorgeous. Last night I set up a 40 vs 40 dogfight over Calais and had between 50-60fps.

You can do two things. Wait another 6 months untill they have dumbded down the program to the point where you can run it on a 7 year old P4. Option 2 is spend $700-$1000 and play it today in all it's glory. I screwed around with this turd long enough only to see guys post that it runs great on a good system. I got a good system and this heap of steaming dung suddenly turned into chocolate pudding! Spend the dough, it's worth it. If you cannot afford it, put the game away and come back in 6 to 12 months. 1C has put the minimum requirements for this game way below where it should have been. Lots of pissed off customers. Sure it runs with the minimum requirements, have you seen what the game at it's lowest setting looks like?Chuck Yeagers Air Combat from 1992!

You can get an I2500k, motherboard and 8 gigs of ram for $350. Slap a radeon 6970 or gtx570 in for another $350 and you're good to go hunt over the Channel. Add another $100 for Windows. That's $800 between you and the best WWII flight sim experience ever.

+1

I also hve the intuition that the more they will limit the modded skins, the less graphics reworking they will hve to do.

New flight sims have always required high end systems to run effectively, COD especially as it had to be released before it was finished and optimized. I've never had a problem with COD other than the bugs, and unfinished features. Unfortunately its going to take time before this is all sorted, especially when they are redoing major componants of the sim. In the mean time I'm enjoying what the sim has to offer now and looking forward to further updates. We have to stay somewhat positive as being totaly negative will only guarantee the sim never gets finished.

Regarding Operating systems....I have a dual boot system with Windows XP and Windows 7 64bit installed. I run the game primarily on Windows 7 64 bit, but have tried it on Windows XP. It was like it was two different games, even with all hardware being the same. I highly recommend using Windows 7 64 bit.

I want be negative

Thats been obvious for sometime, but I'm not sure what purpose you serve other than to drive away as many potential new buyers as possible. Everyone here who owns the game already knows about the many problems, so your only stating the obvious to them. Most people understand that the developers are still trying to fix the game, unlike all the other developers like Microsoft, Rowan, Gaijen, etc who dropped their developments not long after release.

this is not my problem, I'm expressing my opinion, so only because it's different from yours this doesn't mean you are right and I'm wrong

P.S.
stop with personal attacks against me like in the other thread, if you have some problems you can write me a PM

Forgot to add that the developers you mentioned didn't sold a beta full of bugs as a working title.

This needs to become the 1C forum motto

Impossible, you'll never see this day :grin:

That would be good. But how much are they supposed to be recoding? They can't do it all, and I thought they'd already tried to do it before.

Amazing if it happens.

Holy crap! why can't I formulate myself this simple? This should be the universal rule of these boards.

Honestly, I'd be happy with like 20% but hey! I'll take "at least 50%" any day of the week! :grin:

If your going give personal attacks don't whine about having to take them.

Good questions to which none of us have the answer. :(. The intrigue builds....... LOL

Yeah, but then they'll introduce the proper weather, and we'll be back to 20fps.:rolleyes:;)

Quote:
sacrificing pretty for stable
ROTFL! Excellent one, Bongo!

There are so many flaws that are hard to tolerate.
 

I am big fan of the original IL-2 series and have recently acquired CoD. When it comes to WWII FM these guys are the best, in CoD I was expecting the highest standards possible after so many years in the making and all of the experience acquired in previous years.

BUT I see a game which excel in FM realism and is laden with all kinds of glitches and flaws in other areas.

1 - I was playing the British campaign and had to down a bomber, did it, it fell at the middle of the ocean, but it didn't sink, instead it got floating around, and because of that the game engine didn't recognize it as shot down, and the only thing I could do is restart the mission and hope for it not to "land" on the ocean again.

2 - The campaign is completely dull and static, I inadvertently clicked NEW instead of CONTINUE, the game didn't warn me about losing any data (what kind of UI is that?) and lost all my progress. Then I went to the directories to see how the game stored data, I noticed it stored all the campaign progress with a single integer number. I was hoping to see a dramatic campaign with cutscenes and all whistles and bells, whereas any action you take would have effect in the next mission. But all there is, are texts with a lot of typos (the narrative is good BTW).

3 - In the campaign each pilot has its callsign, the game doesn't inform you anywhere what is your callsign, I had to just guess I was supposed to be "Luton 3".

4 - The mirror doesn't work, all static. The game has been out for some time now and still you have to manually disable it every time? Also, there is a huge frame rate drop when this mirror is on (like 10-12fps).

SUGGESTION: You could make an autoexec which would run at the start of every mission, then the player could set the keys to be "pressed automatically", like disabling mirror, magnetos position, fuel cock etc.

5 - When you select the comms, the screen at the top right gets all cluttered with the status messages and comms mixed, I can't read anything.

6 - The graphics, comparing to "Wings of Prey", I can run it at 60fps constantly and the graphics look noticeable more beautiful and detailed, while in CoD I get around 30-45fps.

Guys, please take my critics as positive as possible, I think it is a great game, I just want to help you address some issues and make it the best thing ever. And sorry for my english.

(I love campaigns, don't play in MP BTW)

All this has been said more then a hundred times here and I believe most of us agree with you Lopan.
But when I got this game in august, I spent many hours just flying around and enjoyed a lot. Besides the bugs and unfriendly UI, I had fun with the campaign as well. Perhaps because I'm a newbie and just dealing with CEM and reading this forum was a lot more then I could handle.
Single player at this moment is not much fun indeed, but there were lots of more pressing issues to be solved. The users here have been asking a lot for AI and comms, so for the next patches we hope to get some new life for single player.
There are some user made campaigns you may find interesting, just do some search here in the forum and you will find the links.
If you can, give it a try in MP, the community is very friendly and always willing to help.

What funny is that the FM's are probably the moat bugged thing in the game! Lol!
Even worse than the abysmal stock IL2 FM's.
Well...maybe not that bad. Agreed though that the offline part of the game is unplayable with the current comms and Ai issues.

Yes, but I believe he was talking about the FM's "feeling". Just fly around in CloD is much more fun then IL 1946 because of the handling, the weight it suggests.

IL2 4.01 was a good FM.


Other than that I think BoB:Wings of Victory has had superior FMs.

Patience people. Patience

Well, I have never flown a WWII plane nor anything else so I believe I am not the right person to talk about FMs.

I play combat Sims casually since Chuck Yeager's Air Combat, and IMO IL-2 has the most realistic handling I've ever seen (or what I think it might be) . But that's just my opinion, I'm not an expert or anything.

The campaign is indeed fun, but after all this years have passed and a full-budget price, I was expecting many more features, something revolutionary I might say.

And thanks for the tip, I'll give a try in these user made campaings too.

This is just what happened:

I was playing again this mission where you have to shot down a single He 115 to see if maybe I'm lucky this time.

I shot the bomber, it fell in 90º towards the ocean and then it bounced on the water like a basketball ball and then it just stays there motionlessly forever. And worst of all, as I said, I can't finish the mission because the game doesn't recognize it as a plane shot down. That's the 4th time.

Nowadays I constantly find myself, most of the time as I play games, worrying about design flaws, bugs, glitches and poor concept rather than having fun itself.

I'm getting tremendously disappointed lately that I'm thinking of selling my gaming rig and just buy a simple office desktop.

Don't sell Lopan :)
If you're not as keen on looks and graphics liks most here, try a real simulator game like Falcon BMS.
I'm sure you'll enjoy your spare time unlike now.

There are rather many e-pilots that bought Dover in the early days only to find themselves sitting there in the pit asking themselves "Why am I flying here?" - good looks but not much of a simulator game.

It's never too late to give up :D haha.

Yeah, and with tree collisions we'll be back to 3fps ... :D

Throw the epilepsy filter on too and we've got ourselves a fancy looking powerpoint presentation.

Patience is what is required. Luthier has things now moving in the right direction.

I enjoy this game immensely, from the scenery to the white knuckle turn and burn fights at low or high altitude. It has bugs, sure, but I have no problem looking past them because the game developers are now moving in the right direction.

Most of us are familiar with IL2 series. I played that game from release and it was pretty buggy when it hit the shelves. But, the dev's did got it right over time as well as help from the sim community.

I have yet to encounter a game that was released with a perfect state and not need further development in patches or fixes.

We will see this game bloom in the next few months, things are moving along, slowly, but nothing good comes fast.

Cheers!

Whiskey

all we needed.. another whinner about the same subjects you can read in many other post. I play COD and i have little to no problems so how can that be? Maybe you should check the specs of your PC before complaining? s for planes bounces off the water.. lol seems to me that your PC can handle the game. I grand you this the Offline campaigns are crap but even for that you can download very decent add-ons these days, and the Dev's realy try hard to improve the game.

So if you don't like don't play it!

S!

You need a very powerfull PC and a lot of patience then you can enjoy one of the best game, note this "game", of the time.

I love thuis game and I am waiting for future developements, modules or addons. Have a fun game.:evil:

Hi Lopan,

Good to know that withthe bomber into the sea. I have been shooting bombers over the chanel in MP, I have to check more whether I also get credited for the kill.

Some tips in case they are of help:
"You could make an autoexec which would run at the start of every mission, then the player could set the keys to be "pressed automatically", like disabling mirror, magnetos position, fuel cock etc."
Actually your Joystick coud have such "macros" which you could write.


"When you select the comms, the screen at the top right gets all cluttered with the status messages and comms mixed, I can't read anything."
You could make more "info windows" place them at different areas of the screen and with different font color. This makes thing easier.
Keep Alt pressed and click with the mouse on the window. Right click to see the options and start experimenting. Many posibilities on the way to have a window be shown and the information that should appear in it.
Important: Learn to create a new window and practise using the new window; Leave your original window unchanged until you feel you canmaster the creating windows process well enough to make permanent changes! (many people post in the forum first time "I have lost all my information, how do I bring it back again? ;) )


In the hope that it may be of use.

Happy flying!

~S~

Much as I feel the pain of the XP users if you're getting 3fps and even an eventual CTD you're doing better than my attempts to run it in XP.

I'm only doing it out of curiosity to see what the min specs would deliver but on both my old boxes it won't even start, just the cross hairs then back to desktop.

Box1 AMD 3800+/2Gb/7800GT/XP/Dx9
Box2 P4 dual core 3GHz/2Gb/6600/XP/Dx9

I know the GPUs probably wont run it but it should at least get me to the game menus.

Frankly if getting it running on XP with Dx9 is going to mean destroying its basic qualities for Win7/Dx10-11 users I'd rather they just declared XP unsuitable, bit the bullet on refunds and got on with it.

In testing a while back, I averaged ~56 fps on the tiger moth test track with XP and an unsupported DX10 8600GT 256 mb video card using the DX9 parameter in the confi.ini and only 2GB of ram. My cpu is AMD dual core 3.0 Ghz. That was before the patches. I posted the pic somewhere in a RAAAID thread. So, it does run better than 3 fps XP, even with unsupported hardware and minimal ram.;)

People are in denial on this game so they blame XP. Case in point. Look at Tuckie's video with 50 some odd planes in the air in offline test. He has a latest system. There is obvious stuttering and he had to tone down the graphics to get it playable. Now I remind you, the game advertised 128 player online capability. Ask yourself, "how it that going to happen?" Everyone would have to tone down the graphics settings to bare minimum on their latest hardware systems? I don't know about you, but when I start getting lag stutters online, I'm out of there. So, it's just a dream this CLoD. All the crazy things people are willing to do here to get the game to function. It's admirable, but not rational. And telling people to throw money at this game is nonsense right now. Just wait until they fix it so we know what we are dealing with. Every patch so far seems to change the game radically. If luthier announces that fps may improve by 50%, then wait and see if it is the truth or not before doing anything. JMHO.:!:

stuttering has issues with stuff not related to graphics. i still have stutters with all graphics set to low if i go near a plane.

I completely agree with your second paragraph. :cool:

I'm gonna go ahead and agree with this post right here, totally. I love the people on this forum that blames the bad performance on anything and their grandmothers and not a bit on the game itself. Guys with nuclear power plant rigs that makes even NASA envious have performance issues with this game. Then you hear the cries "oh but Battlefield 3 (for example) is not as advanced as this super sim". I say to these people, put Battlefield 3 on Ultra settings and CloD on the highest settings on your rig then tell me which looks more technically advanced and which performs better.

Still loving CloD for what it is though but I wish some people would wake up and smell the coffee....it's quite burnt by now.:rolleyes:

Well, it seems clear. If anyone comes on here and asks how to get CoD to run on his system the answer should be "You can't. The game is porked, so shelve it and come back in 6 months to see if any patches have fixed it. But probably not, so just go away. Period."

Meanwhile, the rest of us that CAN get CoD to run well will stop wasting our time trying to assist those who can't and convince ourselves that we're not enjoying this sim immensely.

Not sure why, in this case, that this forum has any reason to exist any further -- but there you have it.

Of course you can tweak the game to a certain degree of playability and that should be encouraged. CloD right out of the box without any tweaking is a performance nightmare but this can be improved by very simple means. Don't fool yourself though, this is a game with performance issues and as I said before, I still enjoy the game for what it is and it's going to get even better. :)

Also, I loooove all the placebo fixes people come up with here, RAM cleaners, pagefiles etc. Being a network technician by trade it's almost cute reading about it all.:)

Currently the Ju-88 has a higher rollrate then a Hurricane :grin::grin:

The community is full of idiotic fanboys.


"WHAT YOU ONLY HAVE SIX GIGS OF RAM??? LOL UPDATE YOUR RIG BEFORE YOU BLAME THE GAME!!!!"

$8 million dollar slush fund goes a long way with certain fanboys.:-P

(just a little joke):grin:

I think the only "idiotic" thing is to seperate our community in haters and fanboys!

I still believe that we all want this sim to become the gem that already appears from time to time.

To blame everything on the hardware is as stupid as blaming everything on the software!

But to promote systems from the past is definitely a dead end, imo.

And that is wrong?