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Tavingon 10-18-2011 08:50 PM

Dust / Smoke
 
The main fps killer for me.. am I alone? When I land the dust is swirling like a tornado and the fps sink down to around 4fps, its a slide show

LoBiSoMeM 10-18-2011 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tavingon (Post 351124)
The main fps killer for me.. am I alone? When I land the dust is swirling like a tornado and the fps sink down to around 4fps, its a slide show

+1

Clouds too!

Tavingon 10-18-2011 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoBiSoMeM (Post 351137)
+1

Clouds too!

Ive turned clouds off.. a shame really cause they look great. I think these can all be optimised.. hopefully without turning them off altogether?

satchenko 10-18-2011 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tavingon (Post 351124)
The main fps killer for me.. am I alone? When I land the dust is swirling like a tornado and the fps sink down to around 4fps, its a slide show

Same here!

BadgerSmedly 10-18-2011 09:32 PM

You're not alone - me too. My Spit caught fire and it brought the FPS down from around 40 to around 5. Looked nice though...:)

Qpassa 10-18-2011 09:46 PM

It has to be optimized

Dano 10-18-2011 09:47 PM

Same here, serious fps issues with any dust and clouds, not had the chance to test smoke recently.

Tavingon 10-18-2011 09:50 PM

Please fix, for me game runs like a dream but when the smoke errupts its killed! If there is an option to halve the amount that would be a nice compromise

satchenko 10-18-2011 10:01 PM

Tavingon what is your System Spec ?

Trooper117 10-18-2011 11:25 PM

I get a slight slow down with dust, but not a game killer, I'm just aware that its happening.

NedLynch 10-18-2011 11:34 PM

Yup same here as well as clouds.
The sad thing about clouds is, it's a realism setting, they actually influence the aircraft negatively when you fly through them performance wise, make your instruments go nuts if you don't have or turn on your pitot heater and of course the pilot with reduced visibility. So it's really desireable to have them on if you want realism.
But on the upside the clouds as well as the whole graphics engine are still not final, as Luthier stated in the future plans, with a reworked graphics engine we should experience a 50% performance increase.

AMVI_Superblu 10-19-2011 09:26 AM

I am experiencing the same problem with ground dust, less with smoke from burning aircrafts or crashed ones, but no problems with clouds (losing around 5 fps, not that bad).
My rig is in the sign.

Maybe some particular setting in my AMD Vision Control Center ?

Tvrdi 10-19-2011 09:40 AM

yes for me too...look at performance threads...

Majo 10-19-2011 10:14 AM

Effects setting issue
 
The main driver of this problem could be the "Effects" setting value in the Graphic Options in the game menu. The difference between "medium" and "high" is almost inexistent. The FPS impact is quite high in very specific situations with both settings. Setting this value to "low" will solve the problem of FPS impact the easy way. That is the total absence of effects, no dust, no smoke, no explosions, no fire, no nothing....

Not even high end GPUs are able to handle this elegantly at this stage of the game.

We must all consider that the reference for a good graphic setting evaluation should not be the recurrent low level flight over London, since this situation (INHO) does not add much value to the game. We should consider the “Back death” track as reference, with a significant amount planes, multiple combat like situations at different levels, ground pounding, fast view/camera changes.

Most of you will find out that being able to fly smoothly over London, while playing the “Back Death” track, will still suffer from dramatic FPS lows (<10 FPS) specially during explosions, flying around smoke columns, fires and so on.

Being such a specific issue, one tends to think that it would be relatively easy to optimize, but what do I know?
We will see.

Salutes Majo.

PeterPanPan 10-19-2011 10:14 AM

Not really noticed any significant drop in fps with dust and smoke EXCEPT when there's a massive fireball from one of the large fuel silos going up.

PPP

Tavingon 10-19-2011 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by satchenko (Post 351170)
Tavingon what is your System Spec ?

Triple 2.3ghz processor, 4gb ram, hd RADEON 4800

Tvrdi 10-19-2011 10:40 AM

nothing to do with the systems...I have i7920 OC 3.5Ghz, GTX470 TF2 OC to 790MHZ and 6GB of RAM and have slowdown near effects (dust etc..)

skouras 10-19-2011 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tavingon (Post 351124)
The main fps killer for me.. am I alone? When I land the dust is swirling like a tornado and the fps sink down to around 4fps, its a slide show

no
i have them too
is totally an fps drop down killer

Tavingon 10-19-2011 11:25 AM

A thing that dissapointed me in the last patch was that nothing had been done about it, I'm sure it would make a great deal of people happy if it was sorted

Trooper117 10-19-2011 01:31 PM

Tav.. there is a hundred or more different things that need sorting and nothing was done about them either..
There are probably several hundred people that are dissapointed right at this moment but for different issues.
Why is it when a patch comes out the majority on here seem to set themselves up for a fall?
I'm just happy that I can actualy fly the damn thing.. there you go, something positive for a change! :)

Jumo211 10-19-2011 01:59 PM

They are still doing changes to the various effects , once they settle on their final
effects which are btw not bad looking at all , effects will then go through off-line modding
community tuning so they can run with ease on Pentium III systems without
FPS hit , you better believe ! now we just have to wait a bit :cool:

S! HG

LoBiSoMeM 10-19-2011 04:07 PM

Almost all effects are OK, but smokes/clouds are really bad in performance...

warbirds 10-19-2011 04:27 PM

No problem here, I use Kegetys low cloud mod and that also includes dust, smoke and other particle effects.

adonys 10-19-2011 06:16 PM

where's that mod, please?

Majo 10-20-2011 11:02 AM

Oh please!!!!
 
Quote:

warbirds
No problem here, I use Kegetys low cloud mod and that also includes dust, smoke and other particle effects.
Please, if allowed by the admins, could we get some more information about this mentioned "Kegetys low cloud mod" ?

Thanking you in advance.

Salutes Majo.

Tavingon 10-26-2011 07:01 PM

Lets have better performance on the smoke part, Its a major gamekiller for some!

=XIII=Shea 10-26-2011 09:38 PM

Same prob here also:(

adonys 10-27-2011 02:38 AM

Actually, I would like to have better graphic effects for smoke, which is far worse in IL2CoD than in other 2011 games.

And I would also like menu graphic options to can chose between quality and performance for the said smoke/dust effects.

Tavingon 10-27-2011 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adonys (Post 354907)
Actually, I would like to have better graphic effects for smoke, which is far worse in IL2CoD than in other 2011 games.

And I would also like menu graphic options to can chose between quality and performance for the said smoke/dust effects.

That would be an excellent idea, I'm sure it wouldnt be too hard

jojovtx 10-28-2011 05:22 PM

It really sucks in a 110 when you fire the 2x20mm. It's basically a smoke gun obscuring your view and dropping frames by 75%.

CWMV 10-28-2011 05:32 PM

Smokes and particle generation were always an Achilles heel for IL2, I would have thought it would have been fixed in this.

smink1701 10-28-2011 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoBiSoMeM (Post 351137)
+1

Clouds too!

1++

Zappatime 10-28-2011 06:56 PM

What's encouraging is that il2's modded smoke and effects used to be a real frame killer, but subsequent tweaks of the effects mods made it a real low hit on fps without any appreciable drop in eye candy, so it is do-able, by modders anyway:rolleyes:, so lets hope MG can do some good optimising when they have settled on a graphics engine re-build.

LoBiSoMeM 10-28-2011 07:15 PM

What we need:
[youtube]SrPmTd0LWAw[/youtube]

This level of optimization...


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