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JG52Krupi 10-05-2011 07:04 PM

Cockpit and Landscape Beta Comparison
 
Well here is a quick comparison between the two betas...


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BETA Patch v 1.03.15527

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Patch Beta 2 - v15866



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BETA Patch v 1.03.15527

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Patch Beta 2 - v15866


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Patch Beta 2 - v15866

Cockpit - Not too sure atm, not covered in a blue haze any more at least.

Landscape - Looks like where back to the old pastel colours not as bad as release but not as good as BETA Patch v 1.03.15527.. somewhere in-between the two would be great.

UPDATE:

This is getting more interesting, look at the images of the gun-sight screenshots.

The ground looks better in the new beta at that altitude... more work investigation required.

JG52Krupi 10-05-2011 07:08 PM

Just thought i would say that the background looks a lot better in the new patch... more realistic.

Skiiwa 10-05-2011 07:08 PM

Scared to install the patches. I like the Higher contrast. Thanks for the comparison. Think I will go ahead and install the 15866 beta and see what happens. Worse that can happen Is another 3gig download?:)P

JG52Krupi 10-05-2011 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skiiwa (Post 344578)
Scared to install the patches. I like the Higher contrast. Thanks for the comparison. Think I will go ahead and install the 15866 beta and see what happens. Worse that can happen Is another 3gig download?:)P

Bear in mind the explosion crash, we will get a hot-fix hopefully.

ChrisDNT 10-05-2011 07:09 PM

Colors of the second patch look better, but perhaps with a little less contrast.

gelbevierzehn 10-05-2011 07:12 PM

That's a very useful comparison...

I think the old cockpit was much better.
Landscape and planecolour are for my taste in the new version a bit to shiny...

335th_GRAthos 10-05-2011 07:17 PM

Thanks for the work Kruppi!


Personaly, as a person with poor eyesight, I find the new high contrast cockpit much better.

If you fly full real many hours (like I used to do), the crisp and clear dials of the new patch cause less eye strain.

~S~

ChrisDNT 10-05-2011 07:22 PM

In the second patch, color of the sea is much better, less dark.

JG52Krupi 10-05-2011 07:24 PM

^UPDATE

This is getting more interesting, look at the images of the gun-sight screenshots.

The ground looks better in the new beta at that altitude... more work investigation required.

Friedric 10-05-2011 07:25 PM

I dont like the Revi on the new beta patch bring back the old one , now it looks arcadish

JG52Krupi 10-05-2011 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Friedric (Post 344602)
I dont like the Revi on the new beta patch bring back the old one , now it looks arcadish

Agreed.

Friedric 10-05-2011 07:33 PM

Its a shame that we cant see any flames now when we passby or seeing a nother plane starting next to you , i loved that detail , somehow they can tweak that isn it to put that back in .

gelbevierzehn 10-05-2011 07:36 PM

That's how a hot summer day over the channel looks like from 5.000 ft...

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6037/...92ba8874_b.jpg

Friedric 10-05-2011 07:41 PM

Going back to the lastest beta , have fun guys this patch ...... wel you now :evil:

Clu43 10-05-2011 07:48 PM

gelbevierzehn.....probably did not look like that back in 1940's.,;)

No601_Swallow 10-05-2011 07:51 PM

I think I prefer the more "contasty" cockpit as well. And I think the landscape colours are OK, too. (Personal opinion, natch...)

GOZR 10-05-2011 07:53 PM

335th_GRAthos +1

GOZR 10-05-2011 07:58 PM

http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/p...R/DSC_0213.jpg

http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/p...R/DSC_0236.jpg

Tree_UK 10-05-2011 07:59 PM

The new patch is certainly a frame rate killer, my FPS as dropped dramatically.

CWMV 10-05-2011 08:05 PM

jesus that cockpit looks awful...

robtek 10-05-2011 08:15 PM

I think it looks much better now.

JG52Krupi 10-05-2011 08:24 PM

The sunlight looks better :D, will try and get some shots.

SNAFU 10-05-2011 08:28 PM

Thanks for the screenshots! :)

Havent installed the patch yet, due to doubts (I am think a beta for a beta and that pushed out on public demand can´t do good) but the screens of the cockpit look good. I liked the haze and loved the horizon on high alts of the first beta (you know which I mean), but the screens of the cockpit of the new beta look better.

Anyway I guess the air in those days was not as clean as it is nowadays.

Ailantd 10-05-2011 08:31 PM

It would be useful if you add to the comparision screens with the stock game with no beta at all. For me cockpits were wonderfull with no beta at all, were smoked in the first beta and are extremely horrible with last beta.

Old-Banger 10-05-2011 08:34 PM

I have not installed the patch yet, but for me the patch colours are better, with better contrast (especially in 'pit), and much less purple? colour cast. A definate a step in the right direction colour-wise. Good original post.

skouras 10-05-2011 08:50 PM

the colors is good IMHO
But the high constrast in the pit is terrible[much more detail visible in the previous beta,now at the start i got a black colour gauges]
also if you press an external view -F2- the glass of the canopy is barely visible in some points

ps.for the people who have trouble with the E4 and the rads
just press R to make it work again

Sven 10-05-2011 09:05 PM

Cockpit colours are fine, just the reticle is a bit thin and vague, the old one was looking better.

http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/s...n/33a8a678.jpg

Ze-Jamz 10-05-2011 09:10 PM

Terrain def looks better in the new Patch, though im not 100% sure on the Cockpit?

Certainly an improvement though

41Sqn_Stormcrow 10-05-2011 09:10 PM

I haven't installed it but judging from the screens they are definitely moving in the right direction. Finally we get some crisp graphics.

Except the gunsight light that should be not crisp at all.

Topo 10-05-2011 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 41Sqn_Stormcrow (Post 344703)
I haven't installed it but judging from the screens they are definitely moving in the right direction.

+1

Sven 10-05-2011 11:02 PM

Give me the 40 euros I'm short of buying a new graphics card and you'll get your trees! :grin:

CWMV 10-05-2011 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sven (Post 344696)
Cockpit colours are fine, just the reticle is a bit thin and vague, the old one was looking better.

http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/s...n/33a8a678.jpg

Oh wow, I retract my previous remark, that isn't half bad.

Ailantd 10-05-2011 11:38 PM

OK, I have new shots for compare, from the original stock game, from beta1 and from beta 2.
Always talking only about cockpit colors, for me original were the far better of three. Beta2 are the most awful, they have lost all midtones :/ with that over contrast and hipersaturated render.
Original one were more contrasted without lost all midtones and details.

Original:
http://test.ailantd.com/shots/il2test/A0.jpg

Beta1:
http://test.ailantd.com/shots/il2test/A1.jpg

Beta2:
http://test.ailantd.com/shots/il2test/A2.jpg

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Original:
http://test.ailantd.com/shots/il2test/B0.jpg

Beta1:
http://test.ailantd.com/shots/il2test/B1.jpg

Beta2:
http://test.ailantd.com/shots/il2test/B2.jpg

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Original:
http://test.ailantd.com/shots/il2test/C0.jpg

Beta1:
http://test.ailantd.com/shots/il2test/C1.jpg

Beta2:
http://test.ailantd.com/shots/il2test/C2.jpg

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Original:
http://test.ailantd.com/shots/il2test/D0.jpg

Beta1:
http://test.ailantd.com/shots/il2test/D1.jpg

Beta2:
http://test.ailantd.com/shots/il2test/D2.jpg

ATAG_Dutch 10-05-2011 11:52 PM

Original for me. Cockpit-wise.

That 'warm' look has all but disappeared.

If they could get the cockpits like original, whilst getting the landscape like the last beta patch, I'd be happy.

The new patch looks bloody awful.

But at least some people can have 3D.:rolleyes:

JG52Krupi 10-06-2011 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dutch_851 (Post 344814)
Original for me. Cockpit-wise.

That 'warm' look has all but disappeared.

If they could get the cockpits like original, whilst getting the landscape like the last beta patch, I'd be happy.

The new patch looks bloody awful.

But at least some people can have 3D.:rolleyes:

IN YOUR OPINION....

The beta really is not that bad ignoring the obvious bug, pitty so many here are too narrow minded to see throw the mistake and see the effort that has been made.

Hopefully a quick fix patch tomorrow.

ATAG_Dutch 10-06-2011 12:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JG52Krupi (Post 344828)
IN YOUR OPINION....

Of course in my opinion Krupi me ole mate.

Isn't that what forums are for? ;)

(no need to shout btw).

CWMV 10-06-2011 12:42 AM

Dying for a hotfix so I can at least try it!
But Im not holding my breath...

SEE 10-06-2011 12:50 AM

Thanks for all the comparison pics. Will wait and see if there is a hot fix before installing and if ATAG goes with the latest Beta. Everything looks better to me and my eyesight will appreciate the new cockpit tones for sure!

JG52Krupi 10-06-2011 01:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dutch_851 (Post 344840)
Of course in my opinion Krupi me ole mate.

Isn't that what forums are for? ;)

(no need to shout btw).

Sorry getting a bit annoyed, need a hiatus from this forum LOL ;)

ATAG_Dutch 10-06-2011 01:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JG52Krupi (Post 344876)
Sorry getting a bit annoyed, need a hiatus from this forum LOL ;)

Heh heh. Worry ye not. I think this patch has got most of us in a bit of a stew, for better or worse.;)

smink1701 10-06-2011 02:07 AM

I'm in the sharper, better camp too. Read some of the posts from earlier today...many negative, was expecting the worse...must say I was impressed. Things look good, sharp, I like the 109 cockpit, landscape, water, etc. Havent had time to really get into it but so far very good!

Slatz 10-06-2011 02:12 AM

Love the new look.contrast is better colors are better,sharper,and looks more realistic.

Space Communist 10-06-2011 02:18 AM

I am definitely in favour of the new cockpit rendering. It just looks more realistic to me, everything just pops. The landscape in general seems to be improved.

ChrisDNT 10-06-2011 05:00 AM

Greens begin to please me :grin:

He111 10-06-2011 05:51 AM

hmmmmmmm, they look the same expect the new ones are lighter ?

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fireship4 10-06-2011 06:26 AM

From a quick test on the "Black Death" track (at least until it crashes when the bombs go off), I find there is too much contrast. I'm currently watching "Band of Brothers" again, and the high contrast in the game reminds me of the colour effects on that and similar movies like Saving Private Ryan.

GOZR 10-06-2011 06:32 AM

Contrast of the inside cockpit is good actually very much like the real thing.. Up there yes you'll get some good contrast.

justme262 10-06-2011 11:09 AM

I think the landscape is looking good and the cockpits at midday look terrible.
I liked the cockpits before the first beta patch. There was nothing wrong with them in the first place!
I see where they are going though and I hope this is will improve.

I like the VNE FM stuff though

Wolf_Rider 10-06-2011 01:49 PM

From the screenies (yet to install the patchII), the second Beta landscaping looks much much better... both colour and light.

Flanker35M 10-06-2011 02:22 PM

S!

Well there is no soft or warm color but sharpness and contrast when I work on planes ;) So I prefer from the pics the latest ones. I do not see "fuzzy" gauses IRL. And compare to A-10C...

addman 10-06-2011 02:34 PM

Have to say Bf-110 cockpit looks much better now. Before it had that weird "glow" on all the gages and instruments but that's been removed now, which is good.

fruitbat 10-06-2011 02:40 PM

since the hotfix, i'm loving the beta, there's light at the end of what's been a long tunnel:cool:

Sven 10-06-2011 03:19 PM

Me2 love the patch, no issues at all now that they've fixed the explosion issue.

Pic of the Spit Ia cockpit :)


http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/s...n/41356914.jpg

skouras 10-06-2011 03:27 PM

good pic
the gauges are black
try the 109
at 9.00 o' clock in the morning
you can't even see the glass of the gauges
the contrast are high IMO
But again the landscape and the haze looks excellent

Pato Salvaje 10-06-2011 03:35 PM

Hugh... comparing the screenshots I now can see... with betapatches we are loosing the glass shadow effect... :´(

philip.ed 10-06-2011 03:49 PM

Has anyone even visited England, here? The new landscape colours are absolutely terrible. It looks nothing like summer-time England. Beta 1 was a brilliant step. This is completely reactionary.
The cockpits are just face-palm worthy. This game is meant to be a simulation; not an outlet of Luthier's artistic expression (which is pretty crap, no offence to him).

robtek 10-06-2011 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by philip.ed (Post 345316)
Has anyone even visited England, here? The new landscape colours are absolutely terrible. It looks nothing like summer-time England. Beta 1 was a brilliant step. This is completely reactionary.
The cockpits are just face-palm worthy. This game is meant to be a simulation; not an outlet of Luthier's artistic expression (which is pretty crap, no offence to him).

It seems you are one of the few with your opinion then.

philip.ed 10-06-2011 08:58 PM

Aye, but does it make me wrong? This game is a simulation. And this doesn't look as realistic as the previous beta.


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