DSC:A10 you really should try it... ;)
 

Well well i decided to get it , i'm getting tired of waiting for ClOD to be better ....and it's $40 right now and... waooo! ok that was a change .. an happy change for once.. Everything is better I feel like i paid for a very meticulously well done Simulator and what a pleasure just to open it :) Great interface !!
I took the A10 for some simple gun dogfight :) and what a fun !!!

It's basically what i was expecting from IL2:CoLD but DCS has it..
If you didn't try ... run and get it !! cheap and it's awesome !!

http://www.a-10c.com/img/shop/large/en/8.jpg

Even Rise of Flight look and feel so much better now .. grrrrr! :(

Humm and did I mention how "SMOOTH" it is ... ;) freeeedoooom !! even the head movements are better ...

Well just test it ;)..

Will do. I've also purchased RoF and A2A Spitfire. They're great whilst I'm bored waiting for CloD.

Yes RoF is definitely a Sim to have .. so much fun to fly around and as well real smooth ;) and very pretty Interface and all..
It's a must for an aviation enthusiast!!!! no way around it ;)

I ike the sim. It's great although a little too complex for me right now.

3 points though. For me:
- it doesn't perform better
- it doesn't look better
- the interface isn't better either

It's not that you can get DCS A10 or BS to run on a crappy system well. It runs great on a system that runs CloD really good but it also looks much less detailed near ground level by a huge margin. Yes, the runway looks fine up close but that's about it. Also there aren't that many big dogfights with numbers of planes going on. Compared to CloD it's obvious that A10 doesn't have to eat that much performance.
Also I found the interfaces of A10 and BS not much lighter than the one for CloD. But maybe it's just me.

That aside it certainly is a nice sim indeed. :cool:

You might want to check the pilots lounge though. There is another thread on this already.

Yep a Fantastic sim by all accounts,I've been playing it a fair bit of late while waiting for COD to get a little better (although I do still very much like to play COD when I get the itch) and finally taking the time to learn the start up sequence and get a little deeper into the management of the sub systems a bit.

A very rewarding experience and not too bad for me to learn as I went out and bought a TM Warthog HOTAS(highly recommended!!) which makes learning it surprisingly easier to learn.

If ya love Jets it's a must have.

DCS:A10 is a wonderful sim... but i don't really love the modern plane sim... but the DCS is the real reference for modern combat simulation!

I'm sure it's great and all but i don't do jet sims that much, especially modern ones. I'd be ok with a Korean add-on or even maybe Vietnam or an imaginary cold-war turned hot scenario with early jets, but all the electronics take the fun out of it for me: i prefer CEM on pistons to managing some MFDs :-P

Another reason is that i find western hardware overdone to the Nth degree, i was tempted to get Black Shark at some point (it's Russian and unusual) but then i changed my mind.

RoF i tried again after it became free to play and while i absolutely had a blast in the early days with red baron 1 and 2 and also red baron 3D, for some reason RoF doesn't "do it" for me. That along with some design decisions that i find restricting in terms of evolution and gameplay steered me clear of that too.

Maybe i need to see a live demonstration of a modern jet sim sometime and have an experienced flier point me to the cool elements (in a way of "yes it takes time, but look what you can do if you learn it", sort of an incentive to get going with it), because as you can see the only sim i currently fly is CoD and it's not for lack of trying other things.

To be honest however i'm not complaining, i don't have that much time to fly lately and CoD takes up my free time on its own, if i had more sims to fly i'd be swamped. So many sims and not enough hours in a day :grin:

Have been enjoying DCS A10 as well, coupled with track ir & Helios/touchscreen with exported mfd's etc. Good thing about Helios is that it let's you create pop up check lists so I can remember how to do things in a complex sim as this :)

the learning curve isn't that steep for the DCS A10-C, but after the flyer gets there... cleared hot and look out.
as Gozr mentioned, it is a meticulously put together sim (and it is a sim)

What about the FM? The predecessor Lockon did not impress me at all in terms of FM so how about this one?

As a side note: Why did they put a slogan there that says: "Ready to get ugly?" ?

The A10 is for my eyes the coolest looking plane of the jet age.

The FM in DCS:A10 is about as spot on as you can get it in a Desktop sim. The sim is approximately the same as the USAFRES bought to do desktop training for their Hawg-pilots, with some systems omitted due to them being classified.

Why the slogan? Dude, have you SEEN an A10? I love the thing bigtime, seriously, but it's butt-ugly :P

I'd also say that the sim is a good challenge, even though it does leave you with a massive case of brainfire at times (Which buttons do what AAAAAUUUGH!!).

Then again, if you REALLY want brainfire and a challenge, DCS:Black Shark is the way to go. Maybe I'm just an utter n00b that hasn't flown heli's since the good old days of Gunship 2000, but holy hell, it's got an absolutely brutal learning-curve. Really fun once you DO get the hang of it, though.

There are probably some friendly forces to fire at on the ground too.
http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/6341/aftscimitar.jpg

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/3883/semttulodr9.jpg

As it is in all combatsims, and as it is on all battlefields, yes.

Are there night missions?

And did anyone mention it is directx 9 - and it works just fine and looks splendid anyway (thinking back of the whine storm here a while back regarding the fact that CoD uses Dx10 and not Dx11).

Could you please post some big screenshots. Preferably showing landscape/ground-objects etc.

I'm sure the plane looks great, but I'm curious about the environment.

I would just go on you tube MS, there's plenty on there. By all accounts it is excellent however as a sim it probably has far less to deal with than COD so it's unsurprising that so much effort could be spent on eye candy.

i bought it as soon as i saw it at EB, all installed but havent bothered firing it up yet as i am having too much fun online with CoD. my interest in flight sims really drops off with anything post Korean war, seems you spend as much time assing about looking at MFD's as out the cockpit! also couldn't be bothered trying to sort out a map for my CH combat stick, pro throttle setup ;) . hey its a genuine flight sim though so even if i never play it i still don't mind investing in the devs apparently great work!

Cheers
Craig

Far less to deal with than CLoD? Okay, you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, my friend.

CLoD, while involving and has a lot to deal with, is actually quite simple in terms of the technology behind the aircraft, systems etc. Yes, it might be easier to fly in the A10C since you do have systems helping you, but you have a VAST array of systems, functions and instruments you have to keep an eye on at all time, know how, when and when not to operate them, plus the fact that the AI takes absolutely no prisoners.

Comparing the two in terms of complexity is like comparing apples to bananas. Both are fruits, both grow on trees and both taste good, but that's where the comparison ends.

As Cheesehawk also mentions, it takes a damn lot more in order to accurately employ weapons in DCS:A10C than it does in CLoD, although CLoD isn't a slouch when it comes to that either.

Regardless of whether you enjoy modern jets or not, the sim itself is technically excellent. Really, excellent. If you at all like the idea of flying the A10C, there is absolutely no reason not to get it.

since BMS4 is out i don't fly my favorite E4 and COD
Waiting for the patch i supposed;)
Also Red Orchestra2 is a very good game with much fun..

PS. IMHO DCS-A10C is an excellent sim
but after you master it, is a little boring
the reason is that has no dynamic campaign like Falcon..
but still has a lot of fun if you go live with some friends
good choise BTW...

I'm gonna try to push Fjord's point that the sim does NOT have a lot less to deal with.

I saw a ~11m tutorial on how when you use your targeting pod without laser pointer the system's targeting computer will get terrain height information from internal data, and point behind, say, the enemy truck you are trying to hit. Therefore, it not only gets incorrect height data, it also calculates the coordinates wrong. If you use that information to drop payload (in one of the myriad ways you can do it, CCRP or CCIP with either 9-mil, 5-mil or drop restrictions - pardon me, I forget the actual names), you might very well miss the target.

On the other hand, if you turn on laser sighting, not only can you sight for another plane, but the laser will accurately pin-point the distance from your plane, thus get the correct height, and you'll be able to hit.

That is one single, tiny example from among the thousands of them that you might have to deal with while flying the DCS A-10.

Here is the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOZ18GNPI-c



I am not into jets at all! What drew me to DCS A-10 was the realism, and the fact is: I am always pressing buttons and always have something to do. In CoD, I might adjust throttle and radiators to keep temperature steady with a plane like the Blenheim. In DCS A-10, you will be customizing and configuring your countermeasures, setting up weapon profiles for release, designating targets in various ways and storing them, possibly altering your flight plan while online, etc etc etc. The manual is a crazy 670 pages, I would estimate 80% of which are filled with relevant and important information that you should know at some point. And it's not verbose.

I'm sold, to be honest, just for the realism :)

Also: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Co8LKJh6Xc0

For A10 lovers:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y12...fd95f_XXXL.jpg

thats a sniper pod not a TGP
BTW
Nice photo:grin:

Oh no!

one more soul sold...! :P



~S~

I purchased it the other day during the Steam sale and I'm really enjoying it!

Is DCS-A10C more demanding than CoD?

Depends on the definition:
In terms of user knowledge: YES
In terms of Hardware required: NO

~S~

Yeah, jet sims just don't do it for me.

I'm sure it's a great title, but rules of engagement and all the other hoops and things that modern pilots have to go through make such a game seem weird and not very realistic when AI is involved. Also the action is usually over so fast.

I might be interested in a F4 Phantom sim if they made it, though.

http://inspire.creativefan.com/files...0_phantom2.jpg

I think it's an excellent sim, from the A/C model to the landscape and sound. I find the environment is very immersive. Love the whine of the turbofans. It runs great on my system with a couple of effects turned off. I hope we see the day soon that CoD runs as well.

Just like COD, A10 doesn't have collision detection for trees (which are fairly ugly up colse BTW). Start up on the airfield and go for a spin, you can even run through the perimeter fence without damage!

Guess it'd be a hit to performance if they checked for it!

Cheers!

Just wanna chime in here. I also bought A-10C a while back and it's great. Also on my modest setup I run everything on "high" without any hick-ups. I'm not usually an online player but with this sim that's where the fun is at, flying scripted missions and "linking" up your plane with others with the onboard computers is cool as sh*t! The learning process is steep but rewarding like nothing out there, you think the engine management in CloD is a lot to deal with? don't try A-10! LOL! There are so many sub-systems you need to keep an eye on that it's almost mind-melting when the toughs get going. It's a different experience and I enjoy it. I also love taking my Stuka on a foggy morning raid on shipping in the channel, I love both games.

Completely different sims, but both give you a great sense of satisfaction when you do something 'right'!

Yea indeed they are very fun.. I have faith on ClOD ;) It will come around with it's problems..

It was $40 yesterday? I'll have to keep a closer eye on Steam, $59 today :rolleyes:

Company of Heroes is $1.99 right now - any good?

DCS A10

The best sim no one is playing ;)

Seriosly thought, a very cool sim.. I bought it when it was still beta

Spinner here $ 40 at it's home page

http://www.digitalcombatsimulator.co...r=shop&lang=en

Thanks GOZR!

for 1.99 its a very good deal.

;)

No, I do. I'm talking about DM, bullet ballistics in an MO - you don't dogfight in an A-10 so DCS doesn't need to concern itself with these more intensive types of calculation. Whilst your systems in DCS may be telling you something they are not functioning programmatically like the real thing, they just behave like the real thing in order to give you the experience. This isn't going to be as intensive.

I'm not taking anything away from DCS here, it does look fantastic, but the real workload is on the user and not the hardware when it comes to the software itself. It's not that it's more efficient, it's just that it plainly does less.

That isn't a Sniper Pod.

Here's a Sniper Pod, as fitted to the now defunct RAF Harrier:

http://www.airforce-technology.com/p...ier-sniper.jpg

I remember having to constantly fit these damn things to GR9s during a deployment to KAF. We only had 2 of them at the time. The pilots rated them so highly over the TIALD pods that if the A/C carring the Sniper went U/S the insisted it be put onto another immediately! Such a pain in the arse, but I guess that's the reason I was there..!