Arguments, speculations, rants and generally off-topic/repetitive topics megathread
 

Moderator Edit: Sorry for hijacking the first post, the forum software moves posts in chronological order so i had to somehow stick the opening post up.




reported!

:confused: Really?

Commie.. How much is alpha paying you?

are you making trouble in every topic?

I'm actually ignoring most of your trouble making.

I'm doing nothing, you appear everywhere just to personal attack peoples... let's keep this forum clean and in a civil mode...

I'm not attacking anyone. Just agreeing with the devs.

Its his personal nature, he cant help it. he prob doesnt even know what hes doing.

I see...

You must be hearing voices mate the devs haven't posted anything to agree on unless your a big banjo fan!!!

David, it's obvious that you find this all very amusing, your trolling of this forum has caused my poll to be locked, plus your continuous offensive behaviour has become really annoying lately. Don't you really have anything better to do than annoying people that obviously don't like you?

I'm a huge banjo fan.

I find very little of this amusing. However, the banjo post was quite amusing.

Physician, heal thyself!

your answers are very nice, as always

David, I really do pity you. Obviously you live a very sad life, and if you behave like this out there a very lonely too I might add. Many members here have contributed to this forum in constructive ways, you really haven't, all you have done so far is starting silly arguments with people and taking positions just for the sake of it.

Your trolling behaviour has surfaced in many occasions, but in the very trollish nature of yours, you just never go over the line because you know you'd get banned. People like you live for this, it's a sad but undeniable truth.. all I wanted to say is that maybe you should make a step back and re-think your attitude, maybe you might find out that there are even constructive ways of being part of a community.

What Stern said....and check your shoes David.

By being a snitch and stirring up bad-vibes in topics by saying: 'reported'? Your logic, once again, astounds me.

David would like the forum to drown in boring unconcern. Actually it is beautiful, calm thing. Nobody is curious about nothing, nobody asks nothing. The developers monthly once -at payment- assume a new music. Everybody happy. The game was forgotten for a long time already. It would be so beautiful. Right David? :rolleyes:

I'm not trying to be nice. I am being quite blunt. I'm sick of the constant and relentless whining. The complaining about things that have already been reported by those very same people. I'm sick of the threads asking Luthier for an update. I'm sick of the polls asking Luthier for an update.

Judging by the banjo post, I am not alone.

I'm just responding to the people who keep "reporting" my posts. It's nothing for you to worry about.

My attitude isn't the one which needs rethinking. I'm just enjoying the banjo music.

Nobody is making troubles here, the mods are here to keep this place clean. If all this is making you sick than you can just point your browser somewhere else. It's easy... www.disney.com

Guys, he's a troll, if he can cause trouble,get people banned, and posts locked, he's happy.
Check his posts.How many are helpful in any way, or helping other people, or even talking about CoD?
The worse thing you can do to him is ignore him, don't bite, and don't feed him.Just ignore him, and one day a mod will cotton on to what he is doing and he will be gone.
:)

You're the one constantly complaining about this GAME and the lack of dev updates. If it bothers you that much you might want to take your own advice.

should I report this or should I ignore you? the second choice.... and yes JG52Uther, I agree with you...

pheraps... can you point me some recent posts where I'm complaining?

albx, lascialo perdere, e' evidente che e' un troll del cavolo, ora proviamo a farlo bannare, cosi' magari la capisce una volta per tutte.

;)

Good luck with that plan! I'm sure once I am banned Luthier will stop mocking you and give you all the progress reports that you are hoping for.

Yes, he will. Or maybe not, truth is that hopefully you won't be here to see it, but it's not a problem, cos you don't care about updates, do you? :rolleyes:

I'm touching my..... something.... :grin:

Errr... Did I mention that I'm happily married:confused:

I do care about updates. I don't care enough to start multiple threads and polls asking when the next update is coming.

In any case, I hope your plan to get me banned does not backfire on you.

mine is a superstitious gesture :rolleyes:

Now, who brought that fuel truck in here?!!

That should be out on the airfield!

Who's in charge around here!
:rolleyes:

maybe we should start an appreciation poll and see who people would like banned, me or you. But obviously you haven't been doing a great campaign lately..

My point is simple David, I really believe everybody's opinion should be respected (at least among us), and as much as I do understand your point and I don't agree with it, I respect it. What I don't tolerate is your attitude, for some reason you feel entitled to behave like you do, thinking you're better than people that whine. You don't like posts that you repute whiney? Fine, don't bother to read them or simply block the people you reckon are the cause of this issue. Your continuous childish patronising attitude won't change things just like people's whining will. The irony is that, in a way, you're a whiner yourself.

Oh sorry... :)

Fair enough, and sorry for sticking my nose in LOL :-P

If the banjo post is any indication those polls don't carry as much weight as you seem to think they do.

Come on guys, are you seriously trying to discuss with this David dude?

http://files.sharenator.com/dont_fee...104455-580.jpg

Arguments, speculations, rants and generally off-topic/repetitive topics megathread
 

I hoped i wouldn't have to, but it sure beats handing out bans.

So, this here thread is provided for the people who want to argue with each other in an aggressive manner. That doesn't mean the forum rules don't apply to it, they very much do.

All that it means is that those inclined can pursue their favorite pass-time in this thread without dominating every other discussion on the forums, while all who are bored with such behavior can easily ignore it without having to go to the trouble of deciding who to put on their ignore list, having to judge if the poster they're about to ignore also makes valid points they might not want to miss, and so on.

This will still let those of you who want to whine and moan to each other continue doing so, while enhancing the general readability of the forum for those who are not interested in watching the "show".

Don't get offended if you see your posts here and don't take it personally. I'm an unpaid volunteer trying to keep the forum readable without having to force people to act in a certain manner or handing out bans: if they can't act reasonably on their own (and it happens to all of us at times) i'll just give them a "quarantined" area to act unreasonably in there and ONLY there, so that they won't disturb the others.

Posts from other threads that fit the criteria will be summarily moved here and after that, you are still free to continue whatever argument or bickering you might have been previously engaged in., but ONLY within the confines of this thread.

Just saying.....The title of this thread should be changed.....

"Cat box cover up"

A place where David can dive for tootsie rolls....

This community "pinata" would not be necessary?
If the dev's would just speak up/out?

So, go ahead David...yer on a "roll/role"....

I am really surprised that some people think whining is not as bad as trolling!

Where trolling is only assumed here by the forming mob.

This is just.. wow. So no more complaining chaps, drink your kool aid and let's keep the forums for the fanboys.

Before reading this, I never had a problem with the way these forums were run or moderated. After reading it, I'm just stunned. Believing that you can hide the complaints, and indeed the complainers, in what essentially equates to a 'naughty' corner demonstrates both a breathtaking naivety as to the nature of the internet (as there are many, many forums where the 'bile' is far worse than anything seen here) and an insulting attitude to the many customers who purchased this game and feel justifiably dissatisfied.

I'm done. The actions of 1c in releasing a broken game were bad enough, but if we can't voice our opinions without being relegated to the 'naughty corner' for daring to disagree, then this company, this game and this forum no longer deserve my support.

Good luck to all of you who elect to remain with silenced voices. I rather suspect you'll need it.

And for all at 1c, and to anyone else involved in this disgusting decision:

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...B0DDJ8ckjzr4Nu

Orpheus..

I dont think its that mate, Its not like were being banned from saying anything untoward but more that the people who dont want to join in these types of threads or dont want to add anything negative can still use these forums without having to read a load of stuff to them thats not important or wade through countless slag fests between members

Regardless of the state of this game, people coming in here for the first time do not need to see alot of the stuff here...its NOT good for buisness, you know me and what i post sometimes... I aint no fanboi and i dont consider myself to be a whiner either though ive done abit of both agreed BUT its not good for buisness whatever side of the fence your on and it wont help this game, the community or future sales new people reading the stuff thats posted daily..simple as

If all our threads (though some have) were getting deleted on the first sign of negativity towards this game, 1C, the mods etc etc then i would be +1'n your post hands down.

But this is our/your/whoevers place to bitch all you like to anyone that cares enough to come in here and look...the people that don't 'care' enough to come in here shouldn't bother you or anyone else that's posting in here..should it?

Im bored of all the shyte that goes on in here hence why i for the most part just keep quiet now..all i want is this game to become popular and include all the stuff that was promised..simple

Who's winning and what's the price?

Hey Jamz, I understand what you're saying and I do take your point. I think if this were the only thing, I might be more forgiving. But as it stands, we've had a botched game, no communication and now the iron fist of moderation falling on anything deemed negative. The simple reality is that it is impossible to prevent people from stating their opinions, be they positive or negative, and the implicit assumption made by this thread is that all negativity should be shoved under the carpet, no matter how valid or relevant.

Moving the 'moan' posts out of threads to here will turn this thread into a jumbled morass of hundreds of separate arguments/issues with no coherency and consequently of no use to the developers in overcoming those issues, whilst simultaneously destroying the line of conversation in the threads that they were moved from - making any discussion in which anyone posts anything negative a disjointed 'who said what and when' exercise in which actual discussion becomes vastly more difficult.

Quite apart from that, it's mind-bogglingly ignorant/naive to assume that you can sweep your 'whiners' under the carpet. I agree that threads go off topic, and sometimes with unpleasant results. But I'd always rather read the reality of a discussion, no matter how 'fruity' it gets, not the bits that have been cherry picked as 'appropriate' by the moderators.

It smacks of damage control, of censorship. It smacks of trying to hide their failures and it's an insult to anyone who bought the game and felt ripped off. What we see here in these forums is peanuts compared to the rest of the internet, and if they're not brave enough to deal with disagreement face on, then I no longer want anything to do with the company or their products.

Best wishes to you mate, I've enjoyed our discussions and the civility we've reached despite our initial disagreements. Keep in touch via pm and maybe we'll fly together in a real sim one day ;)

I was not sure this thread was a good idea. Thanks to Orpheus for proving me wrong!

+1000 To Orpheus....

Go jump off a building...

"It smacks of damage control, of censorship. It smacks of trying to hide their failures and it's an insult to anyone who bought the game and felt ripped off. What we see here in these forums is peanuts compared to the rest of the internet, and if they're not brave enough to deal with disagreement face on, then I no longer want anything to do with the company or their products."

This is the most honest truth...about this new "THREAD"....

again, +1000

You first...

I wrote this earlier in another thread....it seems, it really belongs here.

"Just my opinion....

Clod now being heavily discounted in price....

Plus

No definitive word from the dev's in weeks....

Equals

A bunch of good loyal customers who paid full price and
have been left in the dark....adds up to?

The thought, that this project has been abandoned....?

As every day passes without any direct information to the contrary?
The more likely it seems....."

Now, with the "censorship and relegated to the corner" attitude being displayed in this thread?

It seems more true.

I'm not so convinced there is any really sinister censorship (most deleted posts were just going down very ugly and unnecessary roads) the fact is there are still plenty of active posts containing plenty of negative sentiment, but I must say even I am loosing 'faith', and Pudfark is probably on to something.....

Now now Bongo don't go O/T!
I'm not worried, I still have faith it will all work out alright in the end.After all, worse things happen at sea.
This ship could be called Cliffs of Dover :D ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPoAO...eature=related

Pretty much summed up the launch of COD for me :)

The boat launch...lol

I dunno....maybe it's salvageable...maybe not...depends on the bilge pumps...:rolleyes:

I think the people, which wallow in their constantly repeated "critics", have so much energy to man those pumps.

Would be much more worthwile to repair some of the pr - damage they've afflicted.

It wasn't enough that the Sim had/has its problems, no it must be kicked already on the ground.

Well..robtek...PR ain't my job and unless you're employed by 1C, it ain't yours either (intended nicely). To that end? If there is PR damage? It is self-inflicted by the nice folks at 1C. However, if you are the "Spokesperson" for 1C, my sincerest apologies for any perceived comeuppance on my part.

Oh, and about that "kicking on the ground part"....well, sometimes when somethings just laying on the ground, playing dead? You need to give it a little nudge with yer toe...to see if it is still alive......;)

Here's a little advice for folks reading this..."Never take anybodies word for something...when, before, they didn't keep their word...or care to explain it..."

No disrespect to your person robtek...Please consider this?
If we were of one voice?
Perhaps, we may have been heard?
And answered...

Where I come from? "No answer, is an answer."

Hiya, Luthier!!! :grin:

Hope you are Ok.....I've just got out of the 1C Jail, and I'm your number one fan!!! :grin:

I've updated me Prison Tat's, got a good one of Oleg......His Chops framed nicely on a Dartboard. :grin:

Anyway, when I was in the nick, I decided to compose a song in your honour, I enjoyed your Banjo tune so much that I thought I would return the favour. 2 weeks of porridge can make a man go stir crazy!!! :grin:

*Strums guitar*

'Went to a party in the 1C Jail
Got Mugged by Maddox and his dodgy game.......
Everybody in the 1C Block,
They wuz dancing to the Jailhouse Rock!'

LMAO.

Hope you liked it Luthier, I love you so much. You touched my Heart, My Spirit, and my Soul.......*Awwww*.

But there is still the small matter of a barely finished game that you flogged me under false pretences......any more news on that? Thanks Luthier, we know you would never desert your loyal Friends, and that you always keep the customers well informed. :grin:

Free at last!!! :D

EDITED: Because I'll just get ban hammered again. Some folk need to cheer up methinks, round these here parts. Lest the Colour Yellow becomes synonymous with bad things, like Fascism, and ting. :D

Like I said, I'm your number one fan. :grin::grin::grin:

*MODS......ITS A JOKE.....CHEER UP MAN. :grin:*

Just what this board needs, another update request...

Dear Mods....why ain't the above moved here: http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=25051

I assume it will be moved at the same time the post above it is moved.

This is by far the best thread yet!

Actually it's exactly like Jamz says. I'm just a guy who got bored with reading the exact same repetitive arguments in unrelated threads, proposed this to the mods and spontaneously offered to take the job just to put some emphasis on it all. I wasn't really expecting anybody to give it to me, but they did and like they say "if you talk the talk...", so here i am. I'm an unpaid volunteer who did some big talk and had to back it up, that's all :-P

Before that i've spent most of my time trying to get others up to speed and explain how to make things work in the sim, or how things are supposed to work, etc...in other words, i've exposed a lot of faults myself so it's not the negativity that i'm averse to.

It's all about the attitude, not the message. If you want to see a good example of criticism that doesn't get moved here, look at this thread:
http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=25017

which is a perfect example of how we can all go about disagreeing with people in a manner that doesn't make it painful for others to read. Oh and there's also a post of mine in there (http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpos...9&postcount=12) which clearly explains where i stand.

In any case, it's your opinion and you probably represent some people that share it, just like it was my opinion on how to handle this and some people agreed. I might be wrong, who knows, we'll just have to wait and see how it turns out. In the meantime, the less vocal part of the community might actually gain some readability in their forums instead of having to watch how personal feuds unfold between the more vocal members.

They've put up with the derailing of every single thread for months, it's only fair we did things in a way that suits them too for a while and see how it goes ;-)

I hope you are willing to stick with this long enough to make it work. People who are willing to get banned repeatedly are not going to give up easily.

Peopel are getting banned because of negative posts, Luthier could change all the tomorrow, unless he's serving a ban for the Troll banjo post.

There's nothing exceptional about it really.

It's just a purpose-built venue for people to vent and blow off some steam without cluttering other threads, not a "go stand in the corner" type of punishment :grin:

The reason posts are moved is because it facilitates easier selection of reading material for the user and it's not only this thread it's done for.

A couple of days ago another thread was going off-topic by discussing the differences of coop and DF modes, a user helpfully suggested we take the discussion to another more relevant thread, so i just moved the off-topic posts into another thread for which they were considered on-topic, told everybody where to find them and the discussion went on like before without any ruffled feathers.

I don't see why this thread should be any different, especially since the alternative up till now was locking threads and banning people if they wanted to argue among themselves. Now there's a dedicated thread for that with a bit higher tolerance level and an off-topic nature by default, which means it wouldn't have to be locked. The reason it's a single thread is because this is a flight sim forum and not an arguments forum.

Generally speaking, i prefer to have a thread partitioned into separate topics if it starts sprouting separate discussions, i don't like just locking everything that goes off topic and i don't want to hand out bans. This is why i went with this approach, if people want to argue about speculative topics they now have a place to do so and if other people don't want to they can just not read/post in this thread, so everyone should have the ability to have the kind of discussions they like.

What is not possible with this approach is for group A to force their kind of preferred discussions on group B and vice versa, which i honestly think is a good thing: everyone should be able to have their say without having their conversations sabotaged and without being offensive to others.

hey, alright... so we get a boxing ring - many forums have one


what's the criteria for getting entry made? (rules of engagement, so to speak)

I don't have a concrete line to be honest and i certainly don't let the username above the post influence my decision, all of us are prone to outbursts and this is a place for us to just say it and be done with it.

It's just that when things get personal and drag other people in the mix, a few posts get moved here to let the originating thread run its intended course and also let the "duelers" continue going at it in here. The basic forum rules still apply (we do have minors on the boards after all).

If i had to make a parallel, i'd say it's like going to a football match where it's permitted for fans of opposing teams to punch each other up, but only as long as both parties agree to it, there are no lethal weapons involved and they don't endanger others who just want to watch the game :-D

There's normal seating and there's a separate mosh-pit area, people enter the pit either voluntary or get moved there if they get rowdy in the normal seating area, some people watch the match, some people get or give a black eye while catching a glimpse or two of the match, but in the end they all go back home having done what they wanted to do :-P

It's a nice try Blackdog but you'll never win or you'll find yourself on a 24/7 mission.

I know you're trying to keep threads clean and readable and I wish it could be so but I think you're flogging a dead horse. People can't resist replying to a post they feel strongly about, time and again. Some of course are just there to goad.

I'm an offender too (not a goader I hope) but I'm trying to resist re-entering old arguments and thats not easy when someone has actually quoted your post.

Most of these repetitive threads don't really need to be worried about. They just take up server space. Let them vent their spleens. The fact is that anything in a thread past about page 3 is either a valuable piece of work (not often) or has become a general discussion or a competely worthless slanging match. You can definitely tell by page 5! Just act on the justified 'reported' posts and if necessary ban people. It won't stop them though, they'll either create a new account or come back after the ban.

My advice to people that don't like certain posters is to add them to their ignore list and let their blood presure come down. Its working a treat for me and one well known Troll ('Troll' IMHO). I would also suggest people assess the thread for the first few pages and decide whether its even worth bothering with. Why repeat an argument that's already been posted? (I know, I know, and I'm trying.) Back round the circle, if they do keep bothering with it, let them get on with it.

You lot are a riot, David the bore has wrung eight pages out of you so far, "circus" springs to mind.;-):-D
cheers,

Just a quick question...

Is this the off-topic thread that Nearmiss proposed a while back? Judging from what Blackdog has said, I don't think so.
If someone can clear this up, I'd appreciate it.

Just disagree with David and you're game ;-)

you must really think you're a clever git.. :rolleyes:

Related to the senseless repeating of known errors, crying for a update and bashing anyone who can enjoy the sim and doesn't shy away from saying it ?

Mmmmh, lets think....

What else is there to do! If we are keeping him off the streets, that can only be a good thing...

Off topic discussions are certainly ok in here but actually this thread is pretty generic, so i don't know how easy it would be to keep track of a longer conversation with a more focused subject matter.

This is more like a place to vent some frustration, speculate and engage in forum dueling without taking over unrelated threads, which means a single thread can do the job because personal exchanges between members are either short or repetitive in nature and as such, easier to keep track of for the participants without needing dedicated threads.

What Nearmiss proposed was an entire off-topic section. I don't want to overstep my boundaries, being the new guy and all, so i'm not going to do something i haven't cleared with him or Alpha first but if you guys want such a section i'll ask them about it.



Actually i thought i was up for some trouble but i was surprised how easy it is: instead of having to plead with everyone who might derail a perfectly good thread to let the rest of the participants have the kind of discussion they set out to (and getting sucked into the off-topic debates myself), all it takes is clicking a few check-boxes to select some posts and pressing the "move" button.

It actually saves me a lot of time, because i don't have to quote and answer every person that might be going off-topic and ask them to stay on the original subject. Hopefully it saves the same amount of time for the other participants.

Other than that i browse the forum daily, sometimes twice a day, so it's pretty easy to keep track of things and sooner or later most people will be coming here on their own if they just want to have a bit of a verbal brawl. If for example i'm having a one-on-one exchange with somebody in another thread and we're going off topic, i might as well ask him "hey, let's take this to the arguments thread, will reply to you there, is this ok?".

In other words, the workload is pretty light (much lighter than having to reply to and convince people not to derail threads): the forum interface is easy to use and the amount of duelists is not that big anyway. ;-)

Cool. Thanks for clearing it up.

Beep Beep, im a jeep

Well the forum is dead, all the bugs have been reported, the complainers have been silenced, all you guys are left with is DAVID HAYWARD. Enjoy, i will come back when Ive got less time.

No. There's a PILOT'S LOUNGE at the top of the forum topic list. I just noticed it today, so I'm not sure how long it's been up.

Yup, it's a new addition.

After dozens of postings and PM messages requesting an Off Topic forums you now have it.

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/forumdisplay.php?f=205

Pilot's Lounge - All the rules apply with a few additions, which will be posted in the Pilot's Lounge soon.

ON TOPIC DISCUSSIONS fall along these lines of discussion categories -

Cliffs of Dover
Diadalos Team
Forgotten Battles (IL2 series)
Historical War (not current wars)
Historical air combat
Flight Simulation
Warbirds aircraft
Mods and Skins discussion

OFF TOPIC DISCUSSIONS are outside the above, along with the other not so nice discussions we've had to deal with for several months.

You can even discuss your old dog "fido", or your lousy divorce.

Just stay within the rules of the forums

Actually, I haven't posted anything today until now. But, as long as I'm here, the non-whining atmosphere is a definite improvement. Thanks for noticing!

"You can lead a horse to water...but, you can't make him drink"
"Ignorance is bliss"
"Blind leading the blind"

All of the remarks above attributed to those who won't read?
What isn't written...on the wall.

Tree_UK, I'd turn a pint upside down with you anytime, pardner...
Thanx for your contributions here on the forums...I have much enjoyed
the accuracy of what you have written....

This is a nice break from the "endless sky is falling posts". Patience is so much more serene. :)

Now, I don't want to fall foul of the moderators so should we discuss "lousy divorce" under 'Forgotten Battles' or 'Historical War'.

Just asking :^)

"You can lead a horse to water...but, you can't make him drink"

I thought the saying was, "You can lead a horse to water, but a pencil must be lead." :-o

binky9

yeah, that's what we needed: the self-proclaimed forum cop, who really thinks he's doing good for the community! Way to go, Sheriff Joe! :rolleyes:

I really wish I could take credit for this, but the real credit must go to everyone who complained about the whining, and the mods who did something about it.

yeah, it's funny how much people is complaining about you though David, you must really be blind not to see it, or again, being in complete denial (or being a troll) you just call them all whiners? :rolleyes:

Believe me, your whining about me has been tough to miss. I'm not blind. I just don't care.

I do not whine about you, I validate the reasons of my posts, unlike you. All you can write is "whine", you're obsessed with it, you probably don't even know what it means anymore, seeing the erratic use you make of it..

You don't care? So what do you care for? That people stop whining? Well your continuous whine about it is not much better, you're a whiner as much as the rest of us. The only difference is that we all could see what kind of low quality agitator you are, it's quite obvious by now that you just do it for your own fun, or probably cos you're bored.

The mods have created this ring thread because of you, not because of other people. We never had such levels until you started behaving like a troll. I think the others are right, you're just bored and don't have anything better to do. We are all contributing to other threads here in a very constructive way, you don't cos you have nothing constructive to say, you just quote things that others say and manipulate them to your likes.

We all tried being friendly, but you don't care, you'd rather stay in your tower of arrogance and self-righteousness..

I doubt this or any other posts will make any difference to you, it's obvious that you're on a mission.. again, it's a friendly community here, so it's up to you whether you want to contribute or ruin it (and trust me, your actual idea of "contribution" has been a huge fail so far).. it's your call buddy..

If the new policies halt the whining, I don't have to do anything. It's all good. It's you who has to make some changes.

lol ok so as usual im confused :) (its not hard to do :) ) what is the purpose of this thread suppose to be exactly?

I was just reading through the posts in the General IL-2 COD folder (which is really the only place i think most people view these days) (47 viewing atm) and it seems that nothing has changed as far as how people are posting. :)

There are both on and off topic posts that have smatterings of criticism and anti-criticism reply's within. and it seems to me all this particular thread does is give people another place to post more angry/often funny banter:) (in code as to not get banned :) ) before going back to reading and posting like normal in all the topics of the day :) Just my observation :)

And just to be clear I am one of the people who has no problem with any of the posts on any of the threads on this forum :) I actually find the back and forth to be at times both entertaining and informational.

And when its not ........ lol well I just keep reading until i find something that is or run out of topics :)

I guess i really just pop on to see if there was an update and then i get sucked in to some of the more funny post wars going on at the time :) and then im back to playing Mass Effect2 ..........(great game by the way :) ) i never understood what all the huh bub surrounding this game was but now i must say i agree :) very enjoyable.

Anyway back to the topic....... or is it the topic? .........what was the topic?........ any way back to why i was posting :) it seems to me so far that nothing has really changed, with the exception of the big increase in over kill banning for silly reasons ( my opinion ) :) and the addition of a sticky for more angry/sometimes funny banter :)

Correct me if I am missing something here please :)

PS that boat tipping over vid as a visual representation of the CLOD launch gave me a good chuckle lol thanks for that :)

OH i also liked the Love letter to Luthier that also made me laugh. :) "just got out of 1C jail" lol :) Thanks for this one as well :)



cheers all :)

PPS The over kill of happy faces is an attempt to not get banned for a jovial or jokingly said statement being taken in negative way. :) hope it works :)

It's for posts like yours. :-D

Wrong Wayward....it's yer new spot fer dragging yer hiney on the carpet....the old spot? Had a hole in it....;)

The funny thing imo is, that pudfark, and Sternjaeger II don't seem to realize that their posts were exiled too.

Still they believe that they are contributing to the community, oh wait, they actually do, it's just not the way they assume it is, the do entertain the majority, except the about 10 similar minded.

The pathetic biased polls, the denigrating of steadfast counter-posters as trolls, just hilarious. :-)

The facts speak for themselves: the general forum is whine and counter-whine free! ;P

And for amusement we can come here, to a new episode of the whiner-war :D :D :D

Robtek, funnily enough the only reason why that happened is that because we got carried away with you and mr David Hayward, which are both very good at trolling.

Before blurting out sentences on whether my contributions are valid or not, have a browse and see what kind of threads I post into as well, and I won't even go (again) into mentioning all the contribution that I have given to devs for both IL-2 and CoD. Uh and while you're on it, check out your friend David and what sort of inflamatory posts he writes everywhere, even when it's really uncalled for, cos he named himself the forum cop, acting by his own distorted double standards.

As for the pathetic biased poll, it had (before it was locked thanks to your buddy David, and mind you I didn't even say a word there, he just started attacking other members) more than 200 people that thought otherwise, so YOU are the minority, not "us 10". Get a grip buddy.

And no, the forum is still not free, cos David keeps on trolling and insulting people.